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Ever been in a Fight?

posted 16 years ago by blueshroom
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I have, but only once, got the s h i t kicked out of me but both of us went down for a couple of days.

What's a fight? Is this some sort of physical confrontation?

You said "Ever been in a fight" is it possible to be out of a fight. I mean you must have got into it some how so you must be able to get out of it right?

[–] maxloh-1 13 years ago

what the *beep* your second paragraph made no sense at all

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[–] amalvj123 12 years ago

yeah!Right

[–] amalvj123 12 years ago

What the hell are you talking about?

[–] grimsgrind 9 years ago

You sound like a legit 40 yr old nerd living in his moms basement, commenting on sites about how lame other KIDS are, considering that's what you really are. I train to fight for a living and I can tell you that you sir, would get your ass kicked by any female member of my gym. As for the rest of the comments, they are naive and ignorant, but yours is proving that you probably got your ass kicked on the daily in highschool and now that you live on a computer and don't go outside, you think you can lie about your life experiences and future endeavors. Go eat a dick you dork.

[–] BossBOY 16 years ago

I've been in several, but the first time I did I realized it was nothing like the movies or on TV. There's no up and up cool looking stances with quick dodges, slick reversals, and intense hits, its just punch kick block and repeat. I won my first fight but I felt really stupid looking after because I was just swinging around.

Pilot pt.1http://www.shorttext.com/e0qavu

[–] boywonderpowpunch 16 years ago

You kick when you fight? Hahahaha

[–] vaseleos0 16 years ago

if he kicks you, you won't think the kicks are funny anymore.

[–] jsmooth1199 16 years ago

LOL

[–] Arie88 16 years ago

Well I've been in some in-the-school-hallways-judo-push things, but no hitting n stuff. I've wondered many times how I would fight if it would come to that, I think I could make some damage to the other side. I'm working out a lilbit and I hit my boxing sack once in a while.

And kicking.. why not? :P

[–] boywonderpowpunch 16 years ago

in-the-school-hallways-judo-push things

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

God these forums are full of stupid little pussies. Kicking why not, you ask?

I'll tell you why, because try to kick me and you will find out what happens! Try to kick anyone in a fight and see what happens. Real life isn't like movies kid!

Jesus Christ, you must be in grade school! This is too much I could be entertained all day reading what stupid kids like you have to say on subjects like this!

[–] BoSoxRule 16 years ago

Kicking is gay, boywonder, you're right. I liked Jake's earlier fighting style better in the movie, honestly. Screw that UFC sh!t.

I'm happiest...in the saddle.

[–] TheAnvrchist 16 years ago

Well I've been in one serious fight. I talked back and the dudes just ran after me and put me to a wall and started to hit me til I was down then I just ran hehe but I did hit back but not much. I just see it like an experience nothing else.

[–] BennyD07 16 years ago

sounds more like an ass kicking to me.

[–] TheAnvrchist 16 years ago

Yeah whatever thanks man.

[–] BennyD07 16 years ago

Boo hoo.

[–] justletgo7 15 years ago

LMAO!!! OMG, that was hilariousss.

[–] Shuya_Nobu 15 years ago

Ive been in several fights, but usually lost because it was more than one person against me. I was in a one-on-one against a dude in In School Suspension (ironically i was there for a fight they said I had which didn't happen). I slipped on papers and got punched in the face. A *beep* way to go down.

The short one's gawking at me and the tall one's being very droll.

[–] snoop1123 15 years ago

If you can take a beating, you can give one too.

Takes more of a man to take a few hits than to throw some out. God, I need to get my ass kicked.

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kris

[–] garret999 16 years ago

I dont necessarily agree with kicking in real life fights but If you disagree with all the mixed martial arts nd agree with ajeks earleir fighting style.. u wud never win a fight against someone who was GUD at mixed martial arts nto jsut someoen that takes it nd claims there good at but if someoen is actually good at it they will probably kic kthe *beep* out of u bcuz if the fight goes to the ground your gonna SUCK nd if he get position on top hes gonna kick the *beep* out of you and your not gonna be able to rol lout of it cuz u dont know how... sure boxing is nci wne ur standing up but very often u c someone go for someoens leg someoens falls then you lose..

[–] mxlflx 15 years ago

Let me kick you one time, haha. Put your guard up even, then you can limp over and try to throw a punch on one leg, heh.

I don't know where you all are from but fighting is still a rite of passage here in sunny Florida, where we like our beers cold, our women nekkid, and our presidents appointed.

Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless--Kenny Powers

[–] P-K-One 8 years ago

The problem with kicking is not that it does not work. When you kick, you give up your stability. Most people have no idea about fighting and just charge you. If you have one leg up while being charged you are going down. And that is not the mat, that is the street. And concrete is hard.

We did some training regarding that very issue in my last school. One guy would try to kick while the other charged him full speed...always ended badly for the one kicking.

Kicks work if both people try to keep their distance and look for openings. In a street fight with somebody who might just charge, you are better of using your hands and keeping your feet down. That has nothing to do with the effectiveness of kicks and everything to do with takedown defense.

[–] I_Created_U 7 years ago

First (only?) sensible comment in this increasingly disappointing thread.

People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs

[–] ginu_tg-1 14 years ago

I have been in several ever since I was 5 probably because I was born and brought up in Kuwait and as an Indian kid growing up in 80's Kuwait, I used to be beaten up by gangs of bedouin nomads. I hit puberty early and soon outgrew most of my peers and then coupled with the martial arts and later the hours in the gym, I guess I became the aggressor in fights and a successful one at that. And those who scoff at kicks, I know what you mean but trust me if you think kicks do not exist or are irrelevant in real fights, you are very wrong. Most commonly low range kicks like sweeps and very often the knee is used in real fights. I cannot count the times I have used soccer shin kicks and muay thai type knee strikes in fights. Nothing generates as much power and offensive damage as those. But I guess when a person fights in the streets it also depends on your upbringing and situation. I learned a long time ago to bring the bath-tub and the kitchen sink to a fight ;)

[–] Hythlodaeus 14 years ago

That's really intersting, Ginu-tg-1.

I'd say if you kick has a lot to do with where you learned to fight growing up. I had my first fight around the time I was 8 in Kentucky in the 80s. There was a certain honor to a fight there, you fought fair, your buddy and the buddy of your opponent watched to make sure it was "fair" and you used only your fists. This was understood since grade school.

Then I moved to New York when I was 10 and kids at school didn't think my southern accent was very appealing and I found out how sleezy New York fighters are. They didn't kick but their friends would stop in and mess with you - they would hit when you weren't looking and once in physics class one guy even hit me while the teacher had my hands behind his back.

So you have to adapt.

I wish I had had some good fights as you describe but I rarely looked for fights and people give up quickly if you don't and I gave up twice myself - so I never gave myself the chance to see what I could really do or take, I regret that now.

What hump?

[–] I_Created_U 7 years ago

Nice post.

People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs

[–] BossBOY 16 years ago

Kicking is gay

Try telling that to a Muay Thai guy, he'd knock your head off.
Trust me, kicks are as much effective as punching and its not just in the movies.
But of course if you're a boxer and you're good at it, don't try to switch things up by kicking, you'll just get uncomfortable in the fight and lose.
Especially if you're an amateur fighter, don't kick because you'll just lose balance in your footing and get your ass kicked.

But if you've got shins of steel and is well-trained enough, go for it.

Pilot pt.1http://www.shorttext.com/e0qavu

[–] BoSoxRule 16 years ago

Please, I would destroy a Muay Thai guy with my punches alone.

I'm happiest...in the saddle.

[–] gisli_stefan 15 years ago

No you wouldn't, dude! obviously you have never fought a seasoned muay thai fighter, because if you had you would know that the knee strike can easily break the bones of your arms if you dont know how to block it and just put your arms in front of your face, and that the roundhouse can project an impact three times as powerfull as the hands ever could.
so *bleep* you, you *bleeping* *bleeper*!

[–] RamonRazor 15 years ago

There is no point in trying to explain this to foolish individuals from this board. I wish i could hear someone talk down on a veteran Muay Thai Fighter. As whippin' all day right there. Lets be honest, they train to strike with more than just fist so hand to hand combat, they would win by experience and technique.

[–] stickley85 15 years ago

kind of like your bruins were destroyed the other night?i believe scott walker had a double knockout!

[–] saybow69 15 years ago

been in scraps and buddies been in alot! and will agree never much kicking in any of the fights? cause you can get messed up if you miss (and they usually do) but know this hawian dude who knew all that karate (crap) and seen him take town some big dudes with his kicking, hit you in top of leg, takes alot out of you and if he kicks you in head? your threw, but he only one i knew who who kick real good? but i do agree most fights are punching and wrestling around, a hard punch on the button is all it takes!

[–] WhereAreTheTurtles 15 years ago

I'm pretty sure hockey players don't kick because they have blades on they're feet.

[–] stickley85 15 years ago

Yeah but you can use it very well.Didn't you see how Ryan used it against Jake when he first fought him?He came at him with both fists to the face and the normal reaction on the opponent's part is to try and block it.And then while Ryan did that he nailed him with a kick to the leg.You can even use your knees too.Trust me I've been involved in martial arts since i was 7,and I asked the same thing,what good is kicking someone in a street fight,and they teach you specific ways to use it.And Ryan demonstrated it pretty well.

[–] Ace2021 16 years ago

Kicking does work in real life fights, but I would suggest only low, leg kicks to the untrained as high kicks are prone to knock you off balance.

Novas portas pandimus

[–] stickley85 15 years ago

Exactly great point.I just stated that to the guy who said they don't work.but low kicks do,because those bones below the knee are weaker,and easier to damage.Just ask athletes.

[–] dr-dunk 15 years ago

i agree with both sides of kicking or not it really depends on how hard and well u can kick, its just like if u cant jab dont throw ur lefty simple as that

[–] ViolentBob 16 years ago

Oh do *beep* off. In a high street brawl you'll punch, kick, bite, butt, stamp, whatever it takes. Because the *beep* who has started on you *will* do the same to you. Better to be dishing it out than receiving it.

Hmm hang on, are you on about flashy kicks to the head and stuff? Yeah that would be dumb in a brawl

[–] Hythlodaeus 14 years ago

Agreed, ViolentBob.

What hump?

[–] mooper273 16 years ago

what makes kicking gay? if someone train themselves to use their legs to knock you the *beep* out, how is that gay? if you tried to kick someone in the head, you'd probably fall over

i definitely prefer punching over kicking though but i box so obviously thats what im more comfortable doing

but in a fight id throw punches, kicks, knees, and elbows

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[–] paulhayhurst 15 years ago

Kicking isn't 'gay' it's a great way of sending someone to the ground. Kick someone behind there knee and then you will see what a impact it makes lol.

"You lost today kid, but it doesn't mean you have to like it"

[–] stickley85 15 years ago

These idiots on here are clueless.I mean what a fight is supposed to last a long time.You are protecting yourself.Who cares how you take the guy out.

[–] zombiepunch 14 years ago

Boxing ftw

[–] chasetjc 16 years ago

Your name is Boy Wonder!!!!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

hold on let me recover for a minute....... still laughing....

Ok you must be in grade school to with a stupid name like that. You probably see al the kicks coming with your super human strength and x ray vision.

You don't know crap about anything. News flash SOME PEOPLE CAN KICK AND IF YOU TAKE A KICK IN THE HEAD YOU FALL HARDER THAN A SACK OF ROCKS.

Don't believe me see Mirko Cro Cop or Vanderlei Silva. Reterd!

I'd kick you in the head!

[–] boywonderpowpunch 16 years ago

Shut up!

[–] crazymime 16 years ago

I do over 2 hours of kung fu and sanshou everyday trust me kicks work, if u know how to use them, fight my teacher shifu shi yanzi, hes from the shaolin temple in china, try telling him kicks don't work, or watch cung le fight your probably one of those guys who watches ufc and is all like brazilian jujitsu is the only fighting that works.

[–] boywonderpowpunch 16 years ago

My point was real life fighting, you know, real life, on the street, where nobody knows how to fight professionally. If your in a fight like that and you tried to kick, people would laugh at you and think your drunk or something!

[–] varmour 16 years ago

Stupid thread
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"...future events such as these will affect you in the future"
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[–] rocked-by-rape 16 years ago

i love internet tough guys

[–] Grothian 15 years ago

What are you on about? What i found most funny is that you refer the other ones as "kids". I used to be a streetfighter a couple of years ago till i got a knife between my ribs. There's no "glory" in fighting. And with your head flushed with adrenaline, there's no ideas like "no i can't kick, cause that'll make me look like a fool." And considering that your legs is far more powerful than your fists, it makes it quite natural to use them.

However. This is the most awkward post i've ever read. "Have you ever been in a fight?"
1. It has nothing to do with the movie whatsoever.

2. If your searching for acknowledgement that it actually do exist people like you in the world; you're looking on the wrong place.

[–] liquidtruth 11 years ago

You have a lot of fight experience for a 12 year old.

Stupidity is the hallmark of humanity, the torch that is passed down throughout the ages.

[–] calvinnhobbes126 15 years ago

hahaha you sound like napoleon dynamite, kung fu and sanshou are useless on the streets, street fights rarely last a minute and you better land the first punch, not try an deflect with some ridiculous parry *beep*

[–] stickley85 15 years ago

LOL!UFC!Half of those clowns claim their martial artists,but yet I never see any form of it.That guy Faber who broke his hand in the rematch with that guy Brown,I thought he was going to use his left hand and his knees and feet more,and he didn't.In any martial arts class they teach you how to fight with one hand.

[–] cambaprecoz 16 years ago

Try to fight someone who does Kick Boxing or Muay Thai.
He'll kick you ass because Boxers have no leg/shin conditioning.

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[–] cambaprecoz 16 years ago

I'm talking about real martial artists, not the watered down maerican pussie s hit.
A good kick is capable of emtying an eyesocket.
You probably never fought a real Kick Boxer.

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[–] cambaprecoz 16 years ago

You know I'm cutting this down because it's getting pretty stupid already.
Not you, but trying to convince each other OVER THE INTERNET.

[–] stickley85 15 years ago

WOW!When I first saw this UFC crap back in the earlu 90's I saw boxers go drop like flies when they fought martial artists.Especially Kickboxers.Remember they know both forms.

[–] steelers3686 15 years ago

HAHAHAHA go ask KIMBO SLICE what happens.... He is a str8 up boxer... and a not to bad but that shiz will not fly against any MMA(mmixed martial art) fighter...

Boxing will def help you in mmost street/bar fights but if someone knows some jui jitsu w/a bit of mui tai UR SCREWED!

Shake-N-Bake

[–] stickley85 15 years ago

And he is so out of shape.

[–] alexanderman 15 years ago

WTF do you mean kicking is dumb? Of course you would kick in a fight. why the hell wouldn't you? you're retarded if you think kicking in a fight is lame.

[–] ShadowHades 15 years ago

You have obviously never been in a real fight...Im 16 and I have been in plenty of fights and I do kick.It always helps because most of the time its not expected because people just watch Fight Club all day and throw punches.Grappling and kicking will help you alot.But the thing that helps the most(which im suprised they put it in the movie)is controlling your breathing.

But of course this is IMDB and anyone who wants to be the toughest guy in the world can be.You probably type in "street fights" in youtube and try and learn how to fight.

I understand that you are a man who knows how to get things

[–] ohsm333 15 years ago

I was in Chicago not too long ago and some scumbag in an alley tried to mug me. Kicking is extremely useful. A guy with a knife comes at you and doesn't protect his legs well enough and it's not that hard to break his leg in half. All I had to do was a quick shuffle forward and one good solid fu cking strike to his lead knee. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. If you know how to kick it is extremely useful. Shut the *beep* up, kid.

And, by the way, naming yourself boywonder and then trying to talk like you think you're hot sh i t really doesn't help your case. Dumbass.

[–] Hythlodaeus 14 years ago

Yeah, my wife shattered a guy's kneecap when she was in high school. Her dad had showed her the move, she didn't think it would work, it took very little strength - she felt really bad.

I'd like to learn a move like that but now that I'm out of high school, I don't typically have a good reason to get into fights.

When I was in school kicking would have been considered a "girly" thing to do and you would have gotten a lot of crap for it after the fight even if you won, maybe especially if.

Not anymore.

What hump?

[–] FeistyCadavr 15 years ago

in-the-school-hallways-judo-push things

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

God these forums are full of stupid little pussies. Kicking why not, you ask?

I'll tell you why, because try to kick me and you will find out what happens! Try to kick anyone in a fight and see what happens. Real life isn't like movies kid!

Jesus Christ, you must be in grade school! This is too much I could be entertained all day reading what stupid kids like you have to say on subjects like this!

Good lord. Well at least the writers for this joke of a movie attracted the right age demographic.

Try to kick anyone in a fight and see what happens? Go look up Cung Le on youtube, Anderson Silva, Mirko Crocop, real fighters, real fights, beating down their opponent with kicks, and various other strikes. You know nothing junior. Keyboard warriors are a dime a dozen.

here let me get you a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kItU8sK7jgg

-See What I See

[–] stickley85 15 years ago

Trust me when the person your are trying to fight in the street,takes a martial arts stand,it's like you're fighting two people,really,seriously.If you don't know any kind of martial arts and have no weapon(which might not help you out anyway,if they're that good),you don't know what is coming at you.They can fake you out with a punch and drop you with their feet faster than you can spit.Trust me I've seen it,it's not a pretty site.These people know where to hit,how to hit,and are trained for this style of fighting as well.Do you actually think if you get a few knees or even elbows really hard close up to your head,face,or jaw is going to keep you going?You're nuts if you think so.

[–] brassmonkey125 15 years ago

I've kicked plenty of times and it's never turned on me. Almost every fight I've ever won was because of a kick. A good kick to the body seriously winds the other guy. so in short if i kick you i'll see what happens from my feet and you'll see from your knees.

[–] stickley85 15 years ago

trust me,martial artists know how to fake people out.unless u study it or have a gun that u use quick,you'll have no chance.

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[–] dinoman_420 15 years ago

You obviously havent ever been kneed i the face by someone who knows what their doing when they fight, and i ofund out what happens when i kick someone in the face they hit the floor like a wet towel. One day you will cross paths with a person thats gonna *beep* your world up by kicking you in the face piece.

[–] Thoughtz 15 years ago

Lol, wow you don't know *beep* bro. What are you impervious to kicks now? Although head kicks are pretty risky in a fight unless they are on the floor or bent over...kicks are fine in a fight. Although, being an assistant Jiu-Jitsu instructor at Gracie Barra...I would rather take it to the ground, but that doesn't mean I would have a problem kicking or kneeing you.

One pussy not knowing how to really fight beating up some other pussy who doesn't know how to fight, doesn't make the first pussy any less of a pussy who doesn't really know how to fight.

Guys like you come into our gym everyday thinking they are tuff because the got in some school yard fights, some hallway brawls or some bar fights... lol..every one of you gets humbled when you come. Just like we all did in the when WE first started. "I'll tell you why, because try to kick me and you will find out what happens!" lol good stuff man, you made me chuckle.

[–] mindstamina3000 14 years ago

Let me kick you in the leg and we will see what happens when you are pn the floor in severe pain not able to walk for weeks. Fagg*t.

[–] rmzanatta 14 years ago

Obvious virgin isn't trying to hide his shortcomings lol

And then Jesus went up to Moses and was all like "Waddup Dawg"

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[–] Number_Nein 13 years ago

You guys are so...

I have been in many fights. And yes, they are nothing like you see on video.

Unless you are a professional, and have been in training recently, that:

If the fight is fair (one on one and and you are evenly matched), kicking is very effective. However, win or loose (I have lost as many as I have won), you get tired very fast. It hurts your hands when you hit someone in the face. When the fight is finished (in about two minutes or so) you are so worn out you don't care who won, you start moving in slow motion early on. The person you have been fighting is in about the same shape as you. It doesn't matter who won.

Fighting doesn't prove anything. It doesn't change the fact that it is just plain stupid or who was right or wrong (unless you are being mugged).

The best way to win a fight is to not get in one. Running from a fight is much better than abusing yourself. I don't care if other people feel that that is being cowardly. It is being smart, not stupid.

I am writing this before I watching the video. I was checking to see where IMDB ranked this. My dander got up reading some of the posts and I had to reply. If I help one person in this, then I have contributed in a positive way.

Any one who has been professionally trained, or is a trainer will agree with me.

I remember one time in High School when I was in a fight, I got so worked up that I put the guy head first into a trash receptacle, and he was bigger than me. I was in the wrong by letting my mouth override my brain. It still didn't mean that I was right because I won. I did apologize to him later on that year, I felt so bad, every time he saw me he would avoid me. We turned out to become good friends, he respected me for apologizing, not for winning.

Now lets watch the video to be entertained. Not to say I can beat him, you, your mother, father, sister, brother, aunts, uncles and me with one punch.

B-Rad Gluckman: Don't be hatin'

[–] Amygdalahaha 11 years ago

you, sir, made me laugh. Congratulations.

[–] CodyKes8 10 years ago

Bro, I do marital arts and kicking is effective if you know how to do it. Try showing someone who knows how and when to kick what happens and watch what happens to you. Make sure to post the video on youtube for me.

[–] LiveOrDie91 15 years ago

Touche ;D

[–] ThePatriots12 16 years ago

I've never been in a street fight. I've been in MA since I could walk so I've been in loads of fights, they all including for comps etc though.

[–] simonchinnock 15 years ago

I'll kick, punch, bite, pinch, scratch - anything to win

winning is winning

[–] aj-ervin4 15 years ago

um you obviously dont realize youre stronger with your legs than your arms, a kick is more effective even in real fights, but you guys are stupid, theres no point in fight over stupid *beep* it just starts more problems which you probably havent realized that cause youre too busy beating the same kid over and over again

[–] ndopa1 15 years ago

You're really, really dumb. Seriously. Why do people kick? Because it's Stronger than a punch. Like, way stronger. Ridiculously. If you've ever been in a fight with a REAL fighter, you'd know. When you get your ankle broken from a flat out low kick, you'd really know. I know I learned my lesson. I do both krav maga and karate, and both teach kicks. Kicks that really, really, REALLY hurt. Kicks that you can't argue against. And the best part? They also teach punches.
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People have been learning and improving incredible ways of kicking for THOUSANDS of years... what, like all of a sudden it doesn't work? Please, take on a Mauy Thai or Kiokushen, or Ashihara, or JKA fighter, (or even an Israeli soldier), in a real fight. And when they realise, 4 seconds in, that you can't kick, see what happens to you.

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[–] Hythlodaeus 14 years ago

Yeah, most fights are pathetic - not like the movies.

What hump?

[–] luis2005 16 years ago

yes ive been in several fights im not gonna say i won them all in fact everytime i had a fight i would hold back and lose so i wouldnt get expelled from school coz my dad would make life living hell if i did now that he died since then i dont hold back and in all the fights ive been ive only lost around 5

[–] evilpoptart834 16 years ago

yea..ive been a few..we had staged ones in the locker room like 3 times...i won 2 by KO and the guy quit in the other one..and ive only lost on real life fight, but the kid had 6 inches on me....im not big and chiseled...but if you punch at the right time and in the right way,, then its hard to lose

btw...kicking is for UFC...not street fighting

[–] akridine1 16 years ago

I've been in loads of street fights and their nothing like martial arts, most martial artists would have their asses handed to them in a street fight if all they relied on was their training.

a street fight is won by the most vicious fighter that does the most damage, theres no rules in a street fight, their messy and you can't tap out.

[–] Fullhouser 16 years ago

kicks do work even in a real life but only if you have experience of it. usually the though the ´fights seem to go to the grabbling punching stupid looking thing in the streets but thats what it is on the streets. i have not been in many fights but i think its very stupid to say that kicks don't work. whoever says that, obviously don't know how to kick.

Jake: She says he's pretty.
Joey: Yeah, well, you make him ugly.

[–] TheWidower 16 years ago

You say professional Martial Artists's would lose in a kick fight huh?

Well, yes and no. Tell that to any of the Gracies. Or Bruce Lee (if he were alive) for that matter. Bruce Lee was challenged constantly by wannabe tough guys that wanted to make a name for themselves and thought Bruce Lee was just a movie star showboat that couldn't fight for real. They ended up taking a beating as he won every street fight he was ever in except the first one when he was 10 years old growing up in Hong Kong and had no martial arts training up until then and was beat down by some local Chinese triad gang. After that he vowed never to be beat again, which is when he took up training. His parents moved him to the states sometime in his late teens/early twenties because they feared for his life after he became such a badass that he started demolishing everyone he got into a fight with including getting revenge on some of the local triad members who were rumored to have taken out a contract on his life afterward.

The fake martial artists that practice watered down martial arts that represent 80% of the rip off martial arts schools you find in America, yes, that stuff is weak.

But REAL martial arts that employ grappling like jujitsu, hapkido, and aikido would wipe the floor on the street. Of course that's assuming it's a one on one fight, since all fights go to the ground.

Most martial arts taught in studios across America are watered down with all the deadlies moves taken out. For instance, Tae Kwon Doe is watered down Hap Ki Do. The watered down stuff also doesn't teach essential grappling, which is absolutely key to winning a street fight. They only teach you how to win fights in a tournament, which is NOT by any means any way to fight for real.

The most affective kick is a straight kick. Roundhouse kicks are the absolute weakest and should not be used in any circumstances on the street. It's all for show and tournaments and stuff. And for all of you that claim that muy thai kickboxing would clean up in a real street fight, look no further than the first UFC where the thai kickboxer, who looked very impressive with his flashy kicks advancing in the rounds, was absolutely annihilated by the European jujitsu champion. As soon as the kick boxer attempted one of his trademark high kicks, he was quickly taken down by the jujitsu champ, but in a grapple hold and knocked out of the tournament.

Professional Martial Artists like the Gracies would wipe the floor in a street fight. They're born and bred from day one to fight, and fight to the death if necessary. Case closed.

[–] Arie88 16 years ago

boywonder_4-1 you need to get over urself, I was trying to keep the thread funny but you started crying. It's normal that a person never fights, that you fight all the time says more about you then me and others, in a negative way for you. When ur not crying on imdb ur hanging on the streets in the ghetto with your gangsta friends? SU.

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[–] stickley85 15 years ago

That's what their trained for,trust me.Punches are the easiest advantage for a martial artist,because if they get a hold of your wrist,good luck.That bone breask so easily.

[–] TheCommenteer 14 years ago

it doesnt matter how big it was, sexual abuse is still sexual abuse you should have reported it. these guys need to learn no means no!

[–] raiseer 16 years ago

never been in a real fight, but I guess that's a good thing, for I'm really sure I'd get crunched bigtime :)
everybody thinks, that if filled up with anger one could beat the *beep* out of people (where I count myself as "everybody", too), but since I saw that guy in the city giving that other guy just one fist in the face (which btw sounded really hardcore) and he fell down like dead, I really updated my opinion :)

regarding all the kicking discussions in this forum:
of course, if I'd try to kick someone he could easily grab me foot and bring me down, but I wouldn't dare to underestimate the kicks of the people I saw when I had karate-introduction. they'd make chop suey out of my rips and guts :)

[–] Hythlodaeus 14 years ago

The only thing I know are fights in high school where people have watched a lot of TV but never been in a fight.

Most people are completely pathetic and you could win a fight. Most people are terrified even at the thought of being in a fight.

I have friends who for whatever reason, people didn't mess with so they were big but have never been in a fight. And they see that as a disadvantage now that they're adults, they tend to get afraid easily when things heat up.

Me, I moved to New York from Kentucky when I was 10, I had to fight, it wasn't really an choice. If I didn't want to live my life getting beat up I had to do something and I wasn't a complete pushover so I fought back and as soon as I did, I found that most people turned tail. Also, at least in the part of NY I was in, people were wanna-be's. People who live in certain parts of NY live in the shadow of the legends of the city, so fighting was common but pathetic.

You would probably do better than you think. Ask your average person on the street if they've been in a fight, most will say no or, "Yeah, back in 2nd grade - when Jimmy Johnson stole my oreo."

I've had quite a few fights where I just did what seemed pretty natural, protect your face and jab when you see a good shot - but back in the 80s and 90s no kids did anything but aim at the face - it was easier than now - but kids are wimpier now in other ways - so it's a crap shoot.

I have taught High School and I don't see much evidence that kids have gotten any tougher, even though fighting is probably even more a part of mainstream culture than it was when I was a kid.

What hump?

[–] the_firestick 16 years ago

i got into one i was bullied all my life and i got stabbed and i turned around punched the kid then kicked him in the head

[–] FableHero5 16 years ago

i've been in a fight couple of times but most of them i get outnumbered. and focus on one guy and get my ass kicked from the other guys ,and this movie stuff are all wrong when you get a couple of hits on your face you wont be able to stand up

[–] woodsmith 16 years ago

I love the people who go on about kicking being a load of crap, MMA being bull etc. This is what happens when a hardened street fighter tries it with even an amateur MMA fighter:

http://explosivefightvideos.com/fightvideos/18912/mma-vs-street-fighter.html

Streetfights though are easy to figure out. The people who start them are angry and swing aimlessly. Naturally most people are right handed, and will normally either throw a right hook or a right cross, to the face. When this happens lean backwards and glance the blow then come through with your right hand to the body, following up with head shots and knees to the stomach/legs for dead legs.

NEVER go for the head unless countering/got the other guy on the back foot. If anybody knows **** about fighting they'll cover their face. If you are bigger/stronger than them always grapple. The fact is, if you are that much stronger than someone, they can throw fancy pants moves around but you'll always beat them.

As for kicks, they are a long range move. Only ever kick legs unless you have an exceptional kick.

[–] HanneliJr 15 years ago

That video is of a fair one on one fight though, of coarse it's skewed towards a trained fighter. That's nothing like a real street fight, where *beep* really stays one on one, or with someone getting a bottle or something.
MMA and that *beep* is good no doubt. But I'd never grapple or wrestle with someone fighting in the street. As soon as you're one the ground, someone else (like the guys friend) would just stomp your head.
You just want to stay planted and upright in street fights, that's why boxing is the most practical. At least then you have a chance of seeing or doing something when some other douche-bag gets involved.
And people who talk about fair fights, when you're in an actual serious fight, where if you get knocked down, you'll get your face kicked, and head stomped, until you're not moving, anything goes in my book. But that kind of thing is different, to throwing a few punches with drunk guy at the bar you're having an argument with. In my experience you can usually read the situation as too how serious it's gunna be.

My final word is though, fighting is pointless. Most guys are fighting because their trying to impress people, and it doesn't do that at all. If someone's being an idiot, just be cool, it's easier saying, calm down, have a beer with me, than getting into a fight.

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[–] stickley85 15 years ago

Fighting someone that is drunk if u are sober is always an advantage.And if u connect with them,they will go down a lot quicker,than if they were sober.Their blood level is so low,and they don't really think straight,and can't concentrate.Trying to concentrate on something really hard next time you're half in the bag.

[–] Hythlodaeus 14 years ago

I agree with you, Bohemianism.

Fighting is pointless and a street fight (which I've never been in, really) is not like Hollywood - people don't fight fair and the friend or girlfriend even always steps in to mess you up. Almost never worth getting into - how often is something important really at stake?

I teach my sons to not be terrified in case of a fight but I don't teach them to fight. So they do a little training but that's more for their attitude not to really fight.

What hump?

[–] Misayharas 16 years ago

Got something against a woman's self defense class? Lol.

I'll say this. There are about five hundred different types of fights, just on the street, because each person brings his or her own element and level of unpredictability to it.. People all have their different preferences or styles, and when everything on the line, they'll go with what works for them.

Respect everything, but play your own game.

A fight in an uncontrolled circumstance with someone intent on doing damage is frightening. You do what you have to to walk out of it. Period.

[–] TheAnvrchist 16 years ago

Yes Misayharas is right. When you are fearing that you are about to get in to a fight just walk away. But if you HAVE TO fight, I would go with randomobserver's advice or start training on my self-defense.