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SPOILER: Is Julia innocent or?


SPOILER: Whole thread is a spoiler. Don't read it before seeing the movie.


I have a tendancy to believe that she was the one murdered the guy but not sure? Your opinions?

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I think she was guilty too.

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SPOILER: Whole thread is a spoiler. Don't read it before seeing the movie.


I have a tendancy to believe that she was the one murdered the guy but not sure? Your opinions?

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I thought the same thing - he did it. She was just reluctantly covering up for him.

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It's hard to believe that one girl could get two guys down at the same time.

Also, they both were completely naked, and when she woke up she was dressed. This has more sense with her version of the story: that says they were fighting inside the room before one of the guys came outside all bloody with the knife.

She also had knife wounds on her back (shower scene).

I would guess that Ramiro killed her boyfriend, and she tried to stop him, leaving him badly wounded.

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This sort of goes on the same lines as "The Road". That is to say the movie is about the relationship between parent and child and the struggles they faced. Not the particular incident that led to the struggle. That said, I tend to think she was guilty, but my reasoning could be flawed.

Netflix description says Nahuel and Ramiro were both ex-lovers of Julia. However, that is not what I got. To me it seemed Nahuel was her lover, but he was in a homosexual relationship with Ramiro. The interactions and dialogue between Julia and Ramiro throughout make this evident to me.

In my opinion, she suffered some sort of psychological break (evidenced in beginning by her going about her day and then the amnesia) after discovering the relationship. What she later recalled as "arguing in the bed" was really physical activity of a different sort. I mean what two straight men argue in a bed?

That is my take on it anyway. Perhaps watching again will reveal otherwise.

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"...That is to say the movie is about the relationship between parent and child and the struggles they faced..."
Agree.
My question is about a very small and relatively unimportant part of the movie.

But yes, I too think she murdered him.

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Despite the ambiguity, I felt Julia was guilty considering she left the scene for a day and then rang a friend as if she had suddenly discovered their bodies.

"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not".

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Nahuel and Ramiro both had flings with Julia, for sure. Why would Ramiro ask whether the child is Nahuel's or not, unless there was a possibility that it could have also been his.

As for whether or not Nahuel and Ramiro were an item, that's left quite dubious. I don't think they did, more likely is that Nahuel found Ramiro in bed with Julia and the fight broke out then. But it's left vague and I quite like the ambiguity.

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Why would Ramiro ask whether the child is Nahuel's or not, unless there was a possibility that it could have also been his.


Because he is a jealous, suspicious person and blinded by this. Such people often make accusations that are unfounded. As an objective viewer from the outside I didn't see anything to indicate Julia had a relationship with Nahuel, but I did get such between Nahuel and Ramiro. A jealous lover is a dangerous thing.

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