The original is "Before Sunrise". The copy is "Before Sunset"...
Now, who certified this copy? Richard Linklater?
Take it easy now. No reason to get all emotional about it!
No, this is nothing to do with Linklater's fine films - this relates to Voyage in Italy.
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of A COPY.When there's no more room in hell, The dead will walk the earth...
Oh come on. Not every movie about a couple touristing around and hashing out their relationship is indebted to "Before Sunrise" (much as I love it). There were movies like that before it, and there will be plenty more in the future.
shareI believe he was referencing FIGHT CLUB.
I don't mean to impose, but I am the Ocean.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062407/
We're gonna need a bigger boat.
Certified Copy was just OKAY.
Sunrise/Sunset and Two For the Road are BRILLIANT films.
http://most-underrated-movies.blogspot.com/
Although Certified Copy is in dialogue with several films from 'the West' (The Passenger, Voyage in Italy and Last Year at Marienbad come to mind) I don't see it as indebted to either of Linklater's films. I think there's a lot more at work on a structural, cinematic level in Kiarostami's film than in Before Sunrise (but I do enjoy that film as well).
shareWhile I'm at it, I guess I'd add Letter from an Unknown Woman to the list of influences as well.
shareYes, I agree. It didn't take me too long into the movie to say "Before Sunrise" to myself, and I see no reason to change my mind. Like both the "Before" movies, the ending leave you hanging (or maybe it's just because it's French), and you have no idea what will happen to the characters. This is not a criticism of the movie, just suggesting an influence. Sure there are a few other talky movies, but not many. Presumably this is deconstructionism at its finest. Perhaps the context (in the case of the movies, the location—the lecture hall, the car, the cafe, the courtyard with the statue, the restaurant, the room)—determines the message, which certainly changes drastically at each place. At least that's my theory.
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In "Before Sunset" we may not be sure what happens next (though I hope they stayed together). (Both films end with a missed trip home). However, in "Before Sunset" we at least know what happened during the film. In "Certified Copy" we have no idea what happened.
shareI wouldn't be surprised if Kiarostami hasn't even seen the Linklater films.
But people are seriously concerned about which one is the "original"?! After this film? Sigh.
while i see similarities with this and the before films, this one has enough originality to stand on it's own. it's excellent in it's own right and should be viewed with an unbiased mind at first. i thought the same thing when it first started, however, as the movie progressed i stopped remembering the before films as i was truly engaged with the dialogue and the characters. truly a splendid film that deserves it's own recognition.
shareWhat this film actually copies is the film Conversations With Other Women, from 2005, starring Helena Bonham Carter and Aaron Eckhart. That film shares this thing about a couple meeting and it's rather ambiguous whether they were once a couple or not.
Maybe Certified Copy has an advantage though in that it has a lot of nice travel scenery whereas most of the former film is shot inside an LA hotel.