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Kind of disgusted with this country


Over the MLK weekend American Sniper was number one at the b.o and made 90 million while selma barely hung in the top five. I heard non stop that Chris Kyle was an American hero. He was brave, he was a damn folk hero. I only heard this from white people. Hardly anyone mentioned MLK or what his life means today. We live in a militarized, violent, police state where unless you're white you're life means little. Just as it was when MLK was assassinated by an American sniper.

Snipers/assassins aren't heroes. James Earl Ray, Byron de la Beckwith, Lee Harvey Oswald aren't heroes. Wtf is Chris Kyle a hero. I don't know why it took me so long to realize this is a white country and we will always be an other. Yeah once a year all the media will act like it believes in civil rights but really they're glad he and Malcolm are dead.

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Do Blacks know that LBJ was actually trying to help them? In fact, Selma was LBJ’s idea, he considered the Voting Rights Act his greatest legislative achievement, he viewed King as an essential partner in getting it enacted.

It's been documented in interviews that the director didn't want to make a White person a "hero" in the movie, so she intentionally made Johnson out to be a villain.





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That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

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I am just curious how upset you were that Frederick Douglas was not in the movie Lincoln?

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@ijuergen


The Selma march was the civil rights activists' idea, not LBJ's. Do your research. The only reason LBJ pushed for the Civil Right Bill is because the civil rights activists constantly bringing attention to it, and all the coverage the movements was getting and showing all the horrible things white Southern folks were doing to their black neighbors----it laid bare just to what horrifying lengths the Southern white establishment was willing to go to in order to keep its foot on the necks of black people in the South---blasting the off their feet with hoses, beating the s*** out of them, lynching them, shooting them dead, and flat-out making it damn hard for the to even exercise the right to vote or any rights they had as citizens (as demonstrated in the film,when Oprah's character is made to jump through all kinds of unnecessary hoops just to even try and simply votet---that really happened.)

Also, in most mainstream Hollywood films about civil rights (which haven't been that many in the last decade,anyway) the main focus usually tends to be on the white characters, while the black people who actually started the movement get shoved into being just the background drop of a white person's story. In other words, watching movies like MISSISIPPI BURNING,GHOSTS OF MISSISIPPI, and THE HELP, you're never know that it was black people who primarily got the civil rights movements going. There were white people/activists who made invaluable contributions to the movement and even lost their lives for involved with it---it's just that Hollywood has always acted like audiences won't watch a civil rights film unless it's focused on a white person. And that's what I liked about SELMA----the focus was squarely put on the black people who actually started the movement for once, and not some fictional "white savior" character who would get all the credit for doing the right thing, like in most Hollywood films on this subject.

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How the *beep* can racism be responsible for Selma not being nominated, when we have Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman, Spike Lee, Steve McQueen, Oprah Winfrey and other actors/actresses of color too numerous to mention, who have won the biggest roles, the top awards and command top dollar paychecks?
How did the actors/actresses I mentioned become the Hollywood heavyweights they are if racism is still so rampant in Hollywood?
The fact is, I went to see Selma, and like so many other movies I saw this year, it didn't live up to the hype, and it's very ordinary!
12 Years A Slave was a great film.............Malcolm X was a great film...........The Butler was a great film.......Selma was a .very ordinary film.
You don't get nominated just because your film was about an important subject....it still has to be done well. Selma was ok....and I don't think it deserved a nomination.

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Many African Americans have a certain persecution complex.

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Totally disagree.

It was quite obvious who the 'villains' in Selma were.

George Wallace, J Edgar Hoover, Jim Clark, the white stormtroopers who cracked a few black skulls and the racist rednecks in Selma Alabama.

And looky here - it's about 50 years after Selma and the deep south is still a cesspool of racist rednecks.

I am sure a lot of African-American Republicans were also outraged at the portrayal of their beloved hero George Wallace.

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I'm disgusted with you, op. Please leave the country then.

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WHY are you trying to guilt-trip people into enjoying and praising a mediocre film?

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I like many other people already saw this movie in 1978

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OP should be disgusted with himself.

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Oswald never killed anybody.

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