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The bridge scene was unrealistic


Those outraged white citizens watching TV -- that part annoyed me even more. No one in the North was outraged. They were actually doing the same things to non-whites in their own yards.
Northerners and Southerners were equally racist. Lynching was never arrested up North.

So this movie is stupid.

I'm surprised the characters didn't say "bro" is black or white slang in this one. SIGHS

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How old are you?

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Not old, but I'm from Brooklyn -- and I'm Hispanic (Rivera) -- and they're the same "Friends"-watching "bro"-hating open racists as those in the South. At best, there was indifference in the North (given the South didn't exactly have the same problems as the North -- they each had different problems) -- but that doesn't mean they weren't openly hostile to non-whites.

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The bridge scene was unrealistic

Those outraged white citizens watching TV -- that part annoyed me even more. No one in the North was outraged.


You are wrong about this. Maybe not everyone in the North was outraged, but for those that were, Bloody Sunday (along with the murder of the four little girls during the bombing of the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church) were turning points in national attitudes about and sympathies for the Civil Rights Movement:

Yet it took events like “Bloody Sunday” to trigger national outrage.
People around the world watched the events unfold on television. Newspapers and news magazines published photographs on their front pages of organizer Amelia Boynton beaten unconscious. Americans, including President Lyndon Johnson, confronted—and denounced—the brutality they saw.
https://www.npca.org/articles/432-reflecting-on-selma-50-years-later


The resulting national outrage led President Lyndon B. Johnson to compare Selma to Lexington and Concord as 'a turning point in man's unending search for freedom.' It also aided in the passage of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which transformed both the state and the nation.
http://articles.latimes.com/1989-08-27/news/mn-1743_1_rights-act/2


The Post's editorial, entitled “Outrage at Selma,” was representative of the reactions expressed by all three papers.
http://tinyurl.com/zjmfnvr


Northern exposure to how southern authorities handled racial issues turned national opinion against Jim Crow.
http://tinyurl.com/zp5q2fw


Selma, Alabama in 1965, where the brutality of local police led to nationwide outrage and support for voting rights legislation.
http://cfm40.middlebury.edu/book/print/35


Together with Hosea Williams, he led the landmark “Bloody Sunday” March in Selma, Alabama, where police brutality spurred national outrage and hastened passage of the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
http://chicago.adl.org/news/rep-john-lewis-and-andrew-aydin-two-events/

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Northerners outraged? That's stupid.

That's why the 1930 lynching in Marion, Indiana got an arrest in the first place? Wrong, no arrest. To me it's not numbers, as there were hardly any non-whites to lynch there in the first place, but the response.

No one in America was outraged at lynching. This movie is so stupid it's beyond me.

I'm surprised the idea "bro" is black or white slang wasn't spread here too.

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Step outside of your world for a little bit. Seriously. Just because all you've seen is prejudice from both sides does not mean that the whole damn country was like that in 1964. You are extremely close-minded.

With all due respect.

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Yes it was you idiot. Otherwise the Marion lynchings in 1930 would have gotten arrests. *beep* even as late as 1986, no one wanted to try the beatings of Michael Griffith in Howard Beach. And the lynching of 1930 was in Marion, South -- oh wait, that's right, INDIANA! Where do you get your "facts" from? A *beep* cereal box?

Next thing you know he'll be saying Swedes or Israelis are more accepting of tomboys
or that "bro" is black, white or Visigothic slang
or that girls who are broish tend to be Visigothic, white or black
or that "Seinfeld" began in 1996
What else? You make pizza out of ketchup?
Or explain my white father's family and their bigotry - and they're from South C - oh wait a minute, no they're from Philadelphia, you imbecile.

Oh to those who think his statement is a misconception, you're an idiot to. His statements are stupid, not misconceptions.

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Again, just because the law turned a blind eye to the atrocities happening back then, it doesnt mean that every. single. person. was a racist.

I'm not saying that MOST people werent racist. Im saying that it just wasnt everybody.

I am sure that there was at least one white person who saw racism for the stupidity it was.

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I say that because while I didnt live in that era, there had to have been some white people horrified at some of the stuff happening in the country.

To say that every white person was a racist bigot would be extreme. I'm a black man myself. Not naive. Not an 'idiot.' I'm just not going to buy that every white person was a racist back then.

Even if 90 percent of them were.

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Then you should have said that. I agree not all white people are racist. I never said they all were. What I took issue with was what seemed to be saying the South was the only place where hotbed racism was common. And it's not just the authorities. People in general were racist. Police aren't the only ones who carry out racism. The fact that racism was a norm shows this.

Your statement that not the whole damn country was like that, seemed to be saying only in the South open racism was the norm. What did you mean by that?

Anyways this movie makes Northern racism seem like they were trying to justify their actions whereas Southerners were the only true racists in the correct understanding of the word - openly bigoted. Next thing this movie would have said "bro" was black or white slang, when it's neither.

Which is not true, because those kinda racists were commonplace in the North, maybe even morseo than the South. "Harlem Nights" which had racism be the norm in 1930s New York, was filmed like that for a reason.

I'm part white (dad's side), but Latin (mom's side). Dad is a Guzman, mom is a Rivera.

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If you've seen my posts on imdb I have never ever said white people were all racist

I know there were white people who loved other races. I'll say a lot were against racism. But a lot also hated other races, otherwise it would not have been the norm.

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If you meant what I meant, bro, then I apologize for calling you an idiot. But this idiocy gets to me. I'm very idiot-intolerant. I'm sorry

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Apologies accepted. Yeah I wasnt clear what you meant either haha. It's rare when two people can clear the air on an IMDb message board, so I wish the best to you.

Bad communication on my end.

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Take care. (Bump)

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The scene where the woman and man are watching, and outraged by, the Bloody Sunday coverage was based on the true story of Viola Liuzzo. She watched the coverage with her husband and was so upset by what she saw, she drove from Detroit to Alabama and joined the march. She is played by Tara Ochs and shown at different points throughout the movie, including the epilogue where they reveal that she was murdered by the Klan five hours after King's speech.

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Even then that's unrealistic. As much as the idea that Northerners were outraged in large numbers is silly, the idea that Italians are white is equally silly. So is the idea that "bro" is black or white (Visigoths included) slang. Italians were discriminated in the same way blacks were. They were fighting for their rights.

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How is it unrealistic if it actually happened? lol
Have you pulled up footage or any documentation of the second march? Plenty of white folks participated.

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A select amount of them rallied, but not in big numbers...
I mean come on
The beating of Michael Griffith in Howard Beach, Queens in 1986, in which there almost was no desire to investigate the shooting. Yes New York was equally a hotbed for racism, for different reasons.

The South was like any bad neighborhood. Jealousy accounted for 50% of the lynchings rather than 100% being for racist reasons. Whereas in the North it was go into a white neighborhood get lynched, in the South you were bound to get lynched regardless. Whites were jealous of non-whites who had success.

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Nevermind, Liuzzo wasn't really Italian it's just name she chose for some reason.
So yeah the lady, who's really a WASP, did help blacks, true.

Even then though - wasn't in big numbers.

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A friend of mine took part in the bridge march. It was pretty realistic.

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The bridge scene really happened! I had a friend who was there.

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NO NO NO

The Northern States is Heaven. La La Land. Valhalla.

No racist people reside in those wonderous states.

Sweet perfect. Ahhhh.

FUCK. LOL.

Not even the great racist writer, Stephen King believes that bullshit.

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