Terrible


I don't normally stop watching many movies, apart from something as incredibly bad as say Legally Blonde 2. But after watching this film for 20 minutes or so I stopped. I knew it looked bad from the onset when the previews that are shown before the dvd starts all appeared to be B-grade horror movie trailers. For such a reasonable cast, I expected it to be alright, but it was predictable, cheap and tacky, and ridiculously stupid, and that's my summation after watching only 20 mins of the thing. And the old lady was obviously a man, any person could tell that, yet all passengers had no clue. I'm not a rocket scientist, but it'd be a pretty safe bet that he/she was undercover looking for the "fortune", and was to later reveal his/her true identity, most likely carrying a gun. Am I right? And the psycho chick would've started killing as many people as she could, right? And the old train guy is the only one left standing, right? Steer clear of this film, not even "so bad its good."

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Once it gets going, this movie gets a lot better. The intro was super slow yeah, but it spirals into a pretty outta control ending. Give it another shot if you're so inclined, cause it does get better...

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It's actually quite an entertaining film. There were quite a few turns I anticipated, but also a good number I did not. I would recommend you finishing it.

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No, I finished watching it, and I have to agree that it is terrible. Aside from it being extremely predictable, I have seen hundreds of horror movies (not that this is a horror movie -keep reading...) and I still couldn't get past how much the director expects the audience to believe in order to make this movie work -and it doesn't work. From the obvious drag queen, to the fact there are only two men working the train, to how quickly the girl goes psycho while everyone else who looks at the box remains stable...a ridiculous premise that fails.

One question/comment: There is another thread that addresses this question, but as it applies to how terrible this movie is, I'll add my two cents here as well. Towards the end of the film the girl says that she is the one the box has been looking for the whole time. Now, there is some question as to whether the girl (sorry, I really couldn't care enough to remember her name, so she'll remain "the girl") had been searching for the box all along or just became instantly crazy after seeing it. The fact that this isn't clear (and the fact that proof to either answer then allows for obvious faults in the plot) further suggests why this movie is as bad as it is.

I wanted to like this movie: good actors, and...and, um...well, good actors. Sadly, actors are not enough to carry a movie, and "Night Train" has too much working against it to make it even tolerable.

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THIS is terrible to you people? You obviously have no clue. NONE.

Terrible is transformers. Terrible is anything by Uwe Boll. This isn't terrible. AT WORST this is mediocre, at best it's actually entertaining.


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I liked this alot

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So, because I disagree with your opinion, monsterkatt, I have no clue. NONE??? Thanks for cluing me in about that, because, well, obviously I had no clue.
I will go back and watch this again keeping your well informed opinion in mind, and I am hopeful that the experience will leave me with a clue.
Just to be sure, what should I be looking for? I mean, when will I recognize that I have a clue? I guess that's the problem with us folks who already don't have a clue: I'm going out on a limb here and assuming I'll also miss the clue as to when I get a clue. Damn, this seems so confusing. Maybe I am better off not having a clue, because that sure seemed easy the time.
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Everything you said is spot on...

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Okay, monsterskatt, I went back and watched this movie.
And, I know my opinion is correct this time, as two days before I watched it, the stork dropped off a newborn clue. My wife and I were so excited about our new clue that we immediately went out and watched a sneak preview of the new "Transformers" -and we knew we finally had a clue because, like you, we found the movie horrible. We then went out and rented all of Uwe Boll's movies we could find, and -guess what?- we found them to be excruciatingly terrible as well. So, knowing that I finally have a clue, I decided to give "Night Train" another chance, figuring my new clue would help me appreciate all of the nuances that make it entertaining. Guess what? Still terrible. Actually, it made me realize just how worse it is than I originally gave it credit.
My wife and I are going to watch "American Beauty" tonight. I hope, with the benefit of my new clue, that I don't choke again on all the crap we have force fed to us in that movie. Maybe now I will enjoy such dialogue as "Jane, he's a freak." "Then so am I! And we'll always be freaks..." Ah, I bet you love that movie as well, monsterskatt.

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Sarcasm is an acquired art; keep up the practice and one day you'll have a clue. Or not.

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Please, bogwart, tell me: Did you have to practice to become a connoisseur of sarcasm? Or not.

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You'll never become a connoisseur on these boards because there simply isn't the range of expert practitioners. However I do have a devoted fanbase, and if, like them, you follow me around long enough you too can formulate a yardstick by which to judge others. Grasshopper.

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Forget a yardstick by which to judge others. I'm shooting for the moon. A fan base? On a movie message board? Oh, my family would be so proud of me.

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There was an element of sarcasm there ...

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One thing you always gotta remember is that some people just cant deal with thinking for themselves. If the movie doesnt lay it out for them on a *beep* silver platter, they will tell you that it sucked, that the writers sucked, or that the acting sucked.

Sometimes its better for movies to leave certain questions open, and let the audience ponder the idea themselves. I didnt need a reason as to why the girl said "im the one the box has been looking for." Its pretty safe to assume that she looked inside and went crazy. If thats not good enough for you, then youre the one with problems, not everybody else.

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I couldn't agree more. Life is full of mysteries and it's only our own arrogance that makes us believe that we know the lot. It's always been that way, and doubtless always will.

One function of films is to make us come to our own decisions about stuff like the contents of the box. After all, it was the major feature in Repo Man, it was a large feature in Pulp Fiction, it was a device empoyed by Hitchcock and others, and now we have another usage here.

What does it matter what it was? It was obviously something that the beholder craved more than anything, and that's different things for different people. I applaud the writer/director for not spelling it all out.

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Like a number of posts on this subject, I agree that a good film is one that allows the viewer to come to his own conclusion about the film. "Sauna" is a recent film I watched that does just that. Nothing is fed to the viewer in a nicely wrapped package. What makes films like "Sauna" and "Repo Man" great is that the film (characters, action, plot development, etc) is consistent. That is not the case in this film, and for a writer to expect the audience to buy every development while being inconsistent is lazy and degrading to the viewer's intelligence ("We'll just feed 'em whatever and expect them to buy it...without questioning any holes".)

I love that "Repo Man" never shows what is in the trunk; however, seeing what is in the trunk doesn't cause rational people to suddenly go insane (nor does it suddenly affect any character in any way - other than vaporize them, but that has nothing to do with a character's behavior). What I find problematic is that the girl, who -for all intents and purposes- is a logical, calm, med student, suddenly becomes insane while no other character undergoes any sudden change in behavior, other than becoming greedy. The film explores how greed affects one, and the girl's sudden insanity is too much too quickly. If there had been more back story to suggest she was unstable in the beginning, then I would have bought it. But, as it is she looks in the box -just like everyone else- and is the only one who undergoes such a dramatic shift in character -well beyond greed.

As feedmeacid wrote, if things aren't served on a silver platter some people can't think for themselves. You're missing the logic: By questioning a problem within the plot, I AM thinking for myself. I'm not simply buying into a hole in the plot because the film is supposed to be good. If you have a problem with me thinking (for myself) about a film and finding problems with the plot, and then questioning it, it seems that you are going against your words, and that you are the one with the problem.

So, I'll ask this about what we are supposed to take away from the film: Is the writer suggesting that the more we educate ourselves (the med student set against a drunk salesman and a conductor) the more susceptible one becomes to losing one's sense of right and wrong, thus leading one to become crazy?

Nope. Don't buy it. But, at least I'm thinking for myself instead of hiding behind the effortlessness of "we're just to accept things. If you have a problem with that, you're the one with the problem" while adding no insight to the conversation.

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slobberbone, um, your posts are quite dull. I agree this movie was terrible, but you are spending too much time trying to be funny. Leave the board, that's what I'm gonna do. (This is my first visit, just watched the flick.) Anyways, your main point of the girl being crazy for no reason is flawed though. Did you forget that while Steve went after Danny, she was spending the entire time staring into the box, and Danny and Steve both just glanced into it? I picked up on that right away, and knew that she was going to be more intense just by the way she was staring into the box, and seemed dazed as it was taken from her. Seems like an easy plot hole to explain.

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I agree - seems that the box affected people differently depending on how much time they spent looking into it: a glance and you become greedy; a look and you become a homicidal maniac. Seems logical enough.

What was not logical was the amount of people knowing stuff about the box on the train - the drag queen, the asian guys, the two men who had stepped out of a 30's detective flick...

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I agree -- the IMDb boards are starting to fill up with insecure people who get real pissy if someone challenges their opinion and dive head-first into cringe-inducing sarcastic or hostile posts.

In thread after thread I see whole pages of flamefests overshadowing any attempts at a decent discussion on a film; starting to get very tedious.

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One function of films is to make us come to our own decisions about stuff like the contents of the box. After all, it was the major feature in Repo Man, it was a large feature in Pulp Fiction, it was a device empoyed by Hitchcock and others, and now we have another usage here.

What does it matter what it was? It was obviously something that the beholder craved more than anything, and that's different things for different people. I applaud the writer/director for not spelling it all out.


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sorry but i believe this movie fits more the category of comedy not a horror movie!!!!

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It might not be a movie for everyone, but to call it "predictable" is a major misuse of this term.
That's why you don't like it "s1obberbone2", you expect familiar cliches and they don't show up, so you are dissapointed. And your question/coment about "who's looking for what" shows that you concentrate on things that are of no importance, missing the clue at the same time.


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Agreed.
NIGHT TRAIN is hardly "predictable"
I was entertained by it. Of course I've viewed a wide variety of much better films, but I've also seen many worse. This one ranks in the middle. I will call it mediocre, but still having enough entertainment value that I wasn't disappointed I watched the whole thing.

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I still couldn't get past how much the director expects the audience to believe in order to make this movie work -and it doesn't work. From the obvious drag queen, to the fact there are only two men working the train

Haha. I've been on sleeper-car night trains that only had two men (plus the engineer/motorman) working the train. In 2010. Yes, they do exist.

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I belive that this film had some good sides. I loved the colors - they made the film more like a samall town legend or Syberia game. Sleepy Hollow for instance had a nice plotline to it - great movie that one. Also NT didn't try to be anything more than it was - no hidden message, no psychological background to characters and - most importantly - it finished what it started: silly and common idea in a silly and common manner. An ok film for sunday afternoon while eating dinner. Don't you eat dinners?

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This was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. It wasn't even bad in that low-budget-b-movie ironic sort of way; it just plain sucked. I gave it a 3.

Nothing you have to say is anywhere near as useful or important as you think it is.

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well, half of the movie is watchable... until police shows up. after that, it sucks.

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And the old lady was obviously a man, any person could tell that, yet all passengers had no clue.

Who said none of the passengers had a clue?
I think you're just assuming stuff that wasn't necessarily there.

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It was alright not terrible. I knew when they did a close up of the old lady that she was a man. I thought Miles knew that the old lady was a man but just shrugged it off. There was a lot of moments in this movie that kept me on my feet. I wish the movie turned out differently though. I wish Pete and Chloe ended up dying and Miles and Frankie ended up splitting the money and the police officers would of suspected no foul play involved.

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