I mean seriously, do people in England have the accent the twins did?
I would preferably like someone from the UK to answer this, but is it not stressful to your vocal cords to talk with a thick accent like that?
I really feel ignorant for asking this, as it does seem as a stupid question, but I really can't fathom of how someone can talk normal like that, as if you were over-stretching every phrase.
Well, the girls are English, and that was their real accent.
Your vocal chords become genetically able to handle such a thick accent. Of any kind. Not just English.
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It'll be partly natural, they definitely exaggerated it. It just doesn't sound natural.
shareIt has been, at least partially put on. I live in England, and no-one talks like that!
shareI'm English and I live in Chelsea, London...it's a very posh and rich area and no one talks like them nipples. It is definitely put on to the extreme...it's how americans perceive the english, we all talk the queens english, have bad teeth, drink tea, eat scones and have crumpets. Very sterotypical, no-one I know including myself are to that sterotype.
So in short, it's a put on accent and they suck.
no educated american percieves the english in such a matter - it would be the same if i said all english people think we're all drug addicted cowboys. it's ridiculous.
and PS, board...it is NOT an accent, it is a dialect. accents are fragments of a previous language carried over to a new one. a dialect is a language spoken differently according to region, class, race, etc. there is no such REAL thing as an "english accent" unless you're speaking, let's say, Spanish in the manner an english person would percieve it as
It is an accent...spoken by a English person...dialects are of people from different area's of England (for example). Say a manc (someone from manchester), they will sound different from me who is a londoner...those are dialects. So it's like an English accent is what people from other countries would usually say when they hear a english person talk...whatever the dialect.
sharedude...it is NOT an accent. repeat. NOT an accent.
an ACCENT is a DIFFERENT LANGUAGE ENTIRLY from ones original spoken language.
if i moved to spain and spoken spanish, i would be speaking it with an AMERICAN ACCENT
if i go to california (i live in chicago) i will be speaking engish with a MIDWESTERN DIALECT
since americans and english people all speak english, they only speak in english dialects since the base language is still the same - google it, wiki it, dictionary it, i am correct
psychomurmz, you're arguing over petty scemantics and you're wrong to boot. Put simply, an accent is the way a language sounds. So since English is spoken in many different places and in many different dialects there are many different accents.
A dialect is, on the other hand and according to Wikipedia more than just the way a language sounds: "Accents can be confused with dialects which are varieties of language differing in vocabulary, syntax, and morphology, as well as pronunciation."
Basically an accent is one aspect of a certain dialect and doesn't just apply when speaking in a language other than your native one. So YOU are the one confused. In the movie at hand, "accent" is the proper word to use because they are not actually speaking in any identifiable dialect. Besides, when people refer to accents they say for instance: "He's speaking in an English accent"
The keyword here is "an", which implies that there's more than one, which is true since no single language is spoken the same way everywhere. So there is such a real thing as an English accent, in fact there are many different ones.
for the love of god...you just defined your self in the wrong, my friend.
an accent is a way a language is spoken, yes, but a way a language is spoken as a second nature to one's original language.
a dialect is a variance of how a single language is pronounced in different places or areas of race/class/etc.
if someone speaks with an accent, they are speaking with fragments of a previous language. an accent is a way people pronounce words, and if you speak standard american english incorrectly because you are not native to it, you speak in a FOREIGN ACCENT
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080708143755AA5h8D7
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=280284
http://www.dailywritingtips.com/accent-and-dialect/
http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic2154.html
http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/pronunciation-phonetics/76514-accent-dialect.html
http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/pronunciation-phonetics/71162-what-difference-between-dialect-accent.html
PS: the topic in itself was flawed, so petty? i dont think so.
I don't have time to go through all the links you posted so I'll just comment on the first one. For starters, the " Best Answer" is wrong in that there is no Chinese language so Mandarin for instance is not a dialect, but an entire language.
Then he says: "Accents refers to how words are pronounced. For example, you can have to Chinese persons speaking Mandarin, but because they are from different regions of China, they pronounce the words differently and thus each has a different accent."
Which actually supports what I say. A dialect is a variant of a language while an accent is the way that dialect sounds. So if you are a native English speaker you are speaking in an accent based on the dialect of the place you're from.
Psychomurz, please do some real research and cite some credible sources before making these claims. Are you a linguist? Sure as heck hope not.
shareAccents in England and Scotland (i.e where I live) are like everywhere else. Every area has its own dialect. In Scotland almost every major city, area and town has its own dialect.
Its the same in England. Every different place has its own dialect. Even though I live in Scotland, I've been to England lots, including some posh parts of London and I haven't heard ANYONE speak how the Rosso's do.
In the UK there are about 30-40 dialects spoken. This includes Scotland, England, Ireland and Wales.
No worries, Americans done't think of the English like that (or at least the educated Americans).
shareI dont know what the hell you are talking about, yes that is a british accent but all they are doing is pronouncing the words as they are supposed to be pronounced.
If you think it would be stressful to talk like that you must have a very lazy pronounciation.
It annoys me how all, well mose, well-known actors have Southern accents...
Do all Americans think all English people speak like that? :)
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Im British and yes i have known girls that speak like that. But it is slightly exaggerated at times in the movie i think.
It was the guy who played the dad in the movie that really bugged me! What the hell kind of accent was that supposed to be?!
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hello dreamweaveruk,
I'm Canadian.
just wanted/thought to mention it.
but I totally agree with you, I find it dull and stupid, the actor who played the twins' father is American in real life, from NYC. His accent could have been better improved with a dialect coach. OR they could have just hired a british actor to play the twins' father OR have an Australian OR New Zealand actor where he married a british woman and had the twins', etc.
Cool, huh?
so yeah, I hope my expose of the father's background helped with your frustration lol rofl
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Just so you know, folks, generalizing all Americans by saying we all think a certain way is as naive as anything. Some of us vote conservative, some vote liberal, some eat potatoes, some eat rice, some live in cities and others live in the country.
We are one of the most culturally-diverse and educationally-diverse countries in the entire world--we're a HUGE country spanning thousands of geographically-diverse miles, and we have many millions of different-thinking people occupying it.
I am a huge fan of British comedies and dramas, and I have, through my years of watching different programs, learned to decipher the many slang terms and accents inherent in the different regions of the UK. I've learned to tell a Northern accent from a Geordie accent, and a Londoner accent from a Manc's. (No offense intended if I've misused to mis-worded any of these)
I think what the problem you guys aren't realizing is that Disney tends to focus its target audience at young American KIDS, and percentage of them might not quite understand a thicker, more-regional "English accent," so Disney tends to have their actors speak in a "posh" overly-accentuated manner--giving the little inexperienced kiddies a representational, albeit stereotypical, taste of an English accent.
Sure, it doesn't necessarily help them understand that typical Brits don't talk like the Queen or Mary Poppins, but Disney doesn't usually rock the boat too much with their kids' movies.
I haven't seen the film yet but from watching the trailer, the twins' accent (or dialect) is my accent. I speak just like them, and most people I know do as well. It's not like it's a rare accent.
shareNO NO NO NO NO NO!!!
Take this from an English person, NOBODY I repeat NOBODY speaks with that accent.
lmfao @ this thread!
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you are a waste of space, get off my planet.
i'mm with you,
i have friends that live in Bristol and according to them there are hundreds of different accents, (which living in Ohio i was naive enough to think everyone spoke the same way in England) so maybe the twins really do speak that way and maybe its a very rare accent, hmm oh well it's not that big of a deal
I HAD to look this up. My kids were watching this movie and the way those twins were talking reminded me of the english accent that Lindsey Lohan used when in the Parent Trap. I am astounded that they are actually English, the accents sound put-on.
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