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Why did they all seem so nonchalant about the murders?

posted 12 years ago by numbmannequin
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It seemed like all of them were so relaxed and unaffected by the fact that people they knew were murdered. I get the whole bleakness and despair of the black metal "scene" they created, but all of them were so casual about it, like Hellhammer supporting the fact that someone he knew "killed that *beep* and finding Dead had committed suicide and being like, oh well, and taking pictures of him, and Vikernes being so cool about having stabbed euronymous 27 times...like, do these people have ANY emotion or soul about anything? Apart from bitching about how the black metal scene is so "trendy" now?

[–] Andstric23 12 years ago

I think you answered your own question. Most of these people, besides maybe Fenriz, were pretty deplorable human beings who pretend they're philosophers because they use big words and interesting theoretical arguments, despite the fact they're essentially arguing for fascism. Varg is the best example, he seems intelligent, funny, charming and you start buying into a lot of what he's saying then he starts letting out little hints about his true ideologies when he mentions Jews and then of course he murdered his friend and shows absolutely no remorse. Hellhammer definitely showed a little bit of his ideology as well when he mentioned his friend, killing that *beep* It was pretty shocking and to me sums up most of the interviewees, they showed no sense that they had grown or learned anything from that experience it was just really bleak...... that's also what makes it a pretty good documentary.

[–] gawain-1 12 years ago

It was pretty shocking and to me sums up most of the interviewees, they showed no sense that they had grown or learned anything from that experience it was just really bleak

Well, I haven't seen the documentary itself yet, but on YouTube there's a pretty long interview with Immortal which apparently was cut from the movie - and now it makes sense to me if it doesn't appear in the final product. Because all they talk about is how they get inspired to make their music. Nothing about church burnings or killings or other controversial stuff. In fact they come off as a couple of level-headed guys who are just in it for the music - kinda like Fenriz.
But of course, that wouldn't fit in with the rest of the documentary...the end of the interview has Abbath saying "I can't be Abbath all the time, you know. I'd end up in a mental hospital or something."
So what I'm trying to say is: Some of them seem to have grown up and evolved, but that might not be as interesting for the filmmakers.

Also, another documentary that sheds some light on the birth if Mayhem and the later events surrounding the band is "Once upon a time in Norway" where the original members of Mayhem (Necrobutcher, Manheim, Messiah) are interviewed and they all definitely come off as people who have matured and evolved since back then.

ETA: Also, I found this on a Norwegian newspaper's site: "Audrey og Aaron, ja. Lurte på hvor de var blitt av. Det var ganske mange som stilte opp til intervju, som lurer litt på hvorfor de ikke har hørt noe etterpå. Men, men. Vi får se hvordan det blir, sier Olve "Abbath" Eikemo" (Or in a rough translation - I'm not Norwegian and probably got the tenses wrong: "Audrey and Aaron, yes. I was wondering what happened to them. There were quite a lot who did interviews who have been wondering why they haven't heard anything afterwards. But, but. We'll see what happens," says Olve "Abbath" Eikemo.)

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[–] Boothylicious 12 years ago

I can see your point, but it isn't that simple. First of all, there weren't a lot of murders. Faust murdered one person. He is supposed to have been very upset about that and wanted to turn himself in, but was convinced not to by the rest of the guys. He didn't take what he had done lightly.

The other murder was Varg killing Euronymous. That happened a pretty long time ago and most of the guys have probably made peace with it by now. Plus, by the time Euronymous was murdered he had alienated a lot of his old group of friends with his outrageous behavoir. One of the founding members of Mayhem left the band because he didn't like how Euronymous exploited Dead's suicide. Another founding member of Mayhem also distanced himself from Euronymous because he had gone too far. By the time of his death, Euronymous' "inner circle" consisted of a lot of younger guys, mostly wannabes who gravitated towards him. But just because people aren't crying on camera almost 20 years after this happened doesn't mean they're void of any emotion.

But yeah, Hellhammer is just an ass. He's just the most ignorant guy in the black metal scene and he should just keep his mouth shut at all times.

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