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George Clooney is a damn fool


It's pretty damn funny how a PC-Left liberal like George Clooney has the balls to condemn genocide in Africa! After all, rape and murder might be wrong by our cultural standards, but in this day of cultural relativism, what right do we have to judge standard Islamic behavior? It was telling how Clooney put as much blame on President Bush as possible while pushing Obama as the future hope of mankind, and yet absolutely NO suggestion was made on what our government should do to help!

The reality is if Bush did what was necessary to save those poor people in Darfur, then Clooney and his progressive ilk would scream bloody murder that Bush had no right to invade a sovereign nation, that Bush's purpose was only to enrich his Republican cronies, that Bush is a cowboy, that we are insulting Islam, etc, etc, etc.

There is only ONE strategy to solve this problem:

1. We must send in an elite military force, conquer a swath of Southern Sudan, and make it safe for the refugees.

2. We must either pay Khartum enough money to make it worth their while to quit the killing, OR bomb them into stone age, and face off with China. In the meantime, we must arm the Sudanese and build up a well-organized civilian militia, including arming the women.

3. Finally, we should withdraw when the Sudanese Africans can protect themselves from the damn Arabs.

If Clooney thinks we can simply negotiate with the Arabs to quit being a-holes, then he is really diplomatically jerking off exactly the same as the people he criticizes.


Illegitimus!

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We should not judge Islamic behavior but when a genocide is going on and people are being slaughtered and the Sudanese government is doing little or nothing to stop it, then it's time for intervention.




"It's mercy, compassion, and forgiveness I lack; not rationality."

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Of course we care about the rest of the world. The USA directly aids about 150 different nations. Americans give more in international charity than the rest of the world combined. However, the Sudan is NOT a vital interest and there is no political will to get involved.

Where do you get your figure that the "invasion of Iraq has caused more than 700,000 deaths"?


Illegitimus!

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The Sudanese opposition was ready to forge an alliance with the animist and Christian South - there were peace talks in Washington - at the same time (and NOT by coincidence) The Clinton Administration bombed a milk factory (claiming it was a front for making bombs - a charge only the retarded will believe) which had an immediate effect of turning the people who were previously against the Sudan Government into their supporters - apparently the Sudanese government at the time was buying arms from the Americans - and the US only turned 'humanitarian' after The Sudanese stopped buying arms from the US (after they found out that Osama Bin Laden - who was acting as a benefactor to them - was secretly a spy for the Americans - a CIA double Agent - and that the US was also arming the people they were fighting! I guess you yanks are bigger snakes then even the Sudanese!

P.S. The party that has committed the most large scale atrocities against the Sudanese are the Lord's People Liberation Army - who happen to be Christian - they apparently have allied with the Sudanese Government as they have a feud with the other tribes in the South. They tend to kidnap children to use as soldiers - as well as cut off the limbs of anyone who refuses to serve in their 'army' - P.S. The US has boasted of killing several members of this 'army' while providing support for their current allies against the government - which means that they are responsible for the wide scale killing of children!

P.S. Just because you speak Arabic - doesn't mean that you're 'arab' - there are plenty of Africans who speak French who do NOT consider themsleves 'French' at all!

P.S. Clooney knows what he's talking about - The US will just replace one dictator with another while wasting taxpayer money in doing so - he's just being diplomatic about it so as that idiots like the OP will not label him as 'anti-america'!

Perhaps the poster above will follow his own advice and quit being an a-hole himself!

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The Sudanese opposition was ready to forge an alliance with the animist and Christian South - there were peace talks in Washington - at the same time (and NOT by coincidence) The Clinton Administration bombed a milk factory (claiming it was a front for making bombs - a charge only the retarded will believe) which had an immediate effect of turning the people who were previously against the Sudan Government into their supporters - apparently the Sudanese government at the time was buying arms from the Americans - and the US only turned 'humanitarian' after The Sudanese stopped buying arms from the US (after they found out that Osama Bin Laden - who was acting as a benefactor to them - was secretly a spy for the Americans - a CIA double Agent - and that the US was also arming the people they were fighting! I guess you yanks are bigger snakes then even the Sudanese!

Muslim apologists love to advance such interesting anti-American theories! Do you have any evidence that Osama was “secretly a spy for the Americans - a CIA double Agent” from objective sources?

P.S. The party that has committed the most large scale atrocities against the Sudanese are the Lord's People Liberation Army - who happen to be Christian - they apparently have allied with the Sudanese Government as they have a feud with the other tribes in the South. They tend to kidnap children to use as soldiers - as well as cut off the limbs of anyone who refuses to serve in their 'army' - P.S. The US has boasted of killing several members of this 'army' while providing support for their current allies against the government - which means that they are responsible for the wide scale killing of children!

The Uganda centered so-called “Lords Resistance Army” is NOT “Christian”, i.e. they neither truly understand nor practice any moral precept as taught by Christ. The “Lords Resistance Army” believes in a kind of warrior mysticism featuring magic rape, magic potions, magic rituals invoking “God”, etc, meant to convey “battle magic”, i.e. protection and success in battle. These beliefs are common to hordes of militia savages operating throughout Uganda, the Congo, Liberia, Rwanda, etc. Magic cannibalism is also meant to convey “battle magic”. Idi Amin was famous for cannibalism. Cannibalism is practiced against the pygmies whose flesh is widely regarded to convey “battle magic”.

The savage mysticism of the “Lords Resistance Army” is no more “Christian” than Haitian Vodoo or Nazi neo-paganist mysticism are “Christian” (or even traditionally pagan).

Ironically, when these savages were involved in Sudan, they evidently claimed to be “Islamic”.

However, for this discussion, these particular savages are not especially involved in the oppression, rape, slavery, mutilations, etc in the Darfur region in particular. I presume you brought them up to take the focus off the Arab Muslim militia supported by the Muslim Sudanese government in Khartum, which are especially involved in the Darfar region.

P.S. Just because you speak Arabic - doesn't mean that you're 'arab' - there are plenty of Africans who speak French who do NOT consider themsleves 'French' at all!

Muslim Arabs have long dominated Northern Sudan and its African people who long ago adapted Arab culture, religion, and identity. This is very similar to Egypt.

Muslim Arabs and Afro-Arabs are attempting to impose Islamic Law throughout the Sudan, featuring conquest, mass-slave raiding, mutilations, etc, just as Islamic Law has since around 640AD. Being from India, you should know this!

P.S. Clooney knows what he's talking about - The US will just replace one dictator with another while wasting taxpayer money in doing so - he's just being diplomatic about it so as that idiots like the OP will not label him as 'anti-america'!

I accept George Clooney’s good intentions. But clearly, what is needed is to arm common people against the government and all the crazy groups fighting the government in well-regulated militia consisting of common men and women.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Resistance_Army

Perhaps the poster above will follow his own advice and quit being an a-hole himself!

The OP never said anything about a-holes in this thread.


"The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." - A.E. Van Vogt

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This was such a powerful documentary! After seeing a new film, Attack on Darfur, based on the atrocities being committed I felt compelled to do my own research. I highly recommend for those interested in seeing a true and honest depiction of the horrors occurring in Darfur to check it out--it will truly change you!
http://bit.ly/960ZVb
http://www.blockbuster.ca/movies/detail.aspx?ID=7724

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