anyone else upset about the ending? - Lie to Me (2008) Discussion

i just am upset they didnt end up together...anyone else agree?

Not really, no. It never seemed like Sam was really that into Mason. Throughout the majority of the movie she appeared to tolerate him more than anything else, whereas she was drawn to James. I think the only reason she was with Mason for so long was because, just as James said, she was afraid of being alone.

The impression I got was that James had become the person Sam had always wanted him to be, and now that they had been reunited he was the one she wanted to be with. Whenever Mason saw Sam and James together, he was always jealous, but Sam was merely annoyed when Mason was having sex with Olivia a few rooms away. Sam was constantly getting annoyed with Mason, it seemed pretty clear to me it was over between them long before they actually split up.

I did feel sorry for Mason at the end as he seemed kind of sad, like he didn't really fit in with his old group of friends. I did think the kid looked more like Mason than James, and I wondered if Sam only told Mason the baby wasn't his so it would finally be over between them.

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[–] lamont-hard 12 years ago

Wow I know this is years late, but still you gave the best write up I have seen in a long time and i agree on just about every point. I too noticed how she held on to Mason near the end and they still had a connection. With these movie one has to assume when the film stops sometimes the story keeps on going, it was obvious to me that Mason was the father and gave her the gift she will always remember him by, they may get back together because that life style in my opinion means once started it never stops, especially if the same players are involved.

Two important fact that has not been mentioned and the first is James was more insecure of Mason and if this child is not his he will see things differently, the second is she may cheat on James with Mason the same way she cheated on mason with James, who is now the old flame.

Way to much sillyness went on for it to stop once the film ended.

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[–] xanxei 13 years ago

What graphique said.

But really, the main thing I took away from this movie is that Brandon Routh can make any piece of drivel tolerable if only his face is given enough screen time.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be in my bunk.

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[–] Feanariel 11 years ago

LOL! I didn't think it was that bad, but I agree with you on the principle :)

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[–] zz1986 15 years ago

no i don't agree. i agree with everything the above poster said tho. but to add on to that remember in the movie when he was with the 18 yr old girl...he pretty much asked her to marry him. he said he would leave his girlfriend for her. she was the one who was like ur crazy im 18 and ur old and possibly a father. it wasnt till after this exchange that he went to her asked her to marry him.

personally, maybe i'm naive but i don't think a guy who really wants to marry a girl would hold on to a ring for so long, sleep around with other girls and then when the *beep* hits the fan ask someone else to run away with him and then finally ask the original girl to marry him. either he wants to marry the girl or he doesnt.

i think its just mason is honestly a good guy at the core. maybe selfish, misguided and a bit childish (but who in their twenties isnt) and he wanted to do the right thing. he thought it was his child and he did love her so...

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[–] joeysazo 14 years ago

tammck76, you have a great read on this movie. I agree with all of your assesments. The only thing to add is what mermaid below mentioned -- it was a really telling moment when Olivia asked Sam if she ever felt numb, which of course she did. She slept with James (and others before) in order to feel alive. It's interesting how much she had to lie to herself, Mason, and others to keep it going. She had settled as much as she could into that lifestyle until James and then the baby came along, inevitably disrupting the unsustainable.

I will say that the ending was kind of hollow, the way it somewhat abruptly ended then fast-forwarded 5 years. It felt like a bit of a cop-out. They laid the whole Hollywood ending on too thick.

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[–] lastluckyduck 15 years ago

***and its funny the kid kinda resemlbed mason with the dirty blondeish brown hair lol...idk***

In the DVD commentary, director, writer or producer (I don't remember who) said something about the kid looking like both james and mason and what did that mean.

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[–] crownroyalle 15 years ago

Yes, I think they intentionally picked a boy who looked like he could be Mason's. Just to add to the intensity that Mason felt at the time. Not only did he lose all of the people that he was close to, but he may have left essentially based on a lie. How conflicted he must have felt. Or maybe relieved that Sam made the right decision.

And I was not upset with the ending. I just felt that Mason needed to grow up.

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[–] Heather-Simmons 15 years ago

Agreed. I just wish they had given us a real hint that the child was Mason's. It would've added more to the ending. I liked it, though.

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[–] GiovanaSamara 15 years ago

I wasn't disappointed, you sew you reap.

A "forked" relationship like that could end three ways: she stays with Mason, she stays with James, she loses/leaves both.

I was happy enough she didn't end up all alone.

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[–] seanymphette 15 years ago

Wow,
how could you believe a commitment between Sam and Mason could ever last, as immature and noncommittal as he was? His own friend called him a user, after he had sex with his girl. He was a drunken, promiscuous, emotional abuser, who didn't care about anybody's needs except his own. What kind of relationship can you have with a man who you have to chastise for having unprotected sex with other women? You remember they originally only started their "open" relationship as a result of him cheating on her, so he couldn't keep faithful from the beginning. She only agreed to an open relationship as a way of dealing with his infidelity, and to get her emotional and physical needs met, since he was not fulfilling all of them. Don't you remember Olivia asking Sam "does it ever make you feel numb?" The answer was "yes" because they showed Sam's face after the first time she had a fling with James and she looked as though she was having sex just to feel like she was alive. Just trying to fill a void. Then she and Mason were finally in an intimate moment themselves after all the philandering and he took a phone call right in the middle of it and went to see Olivia. He told Olivia he was in love with her. It was only after Olivia rejected him that he even considered Sam. What pregnant woman wants to marry a man who clearly states he never wanted children? If they had married,they've would've been divorced before that kid reached 1 years old. She was absolutely right in rejecting him and saying what she did "yes we'll get married, and we'll get a big bed, for me,you, James, and you can even have Olivia, I don't care." She was being facetious and telling him that it couldn't possibly work, with a kid on the way. She made the right decision for herself, to have some self respect as a woman, and her child. I interpreted that child to be Mason's though, and I think he knew it at the end when the kid was smiling at him through the window. I think she just told him that it wasn't his, so he would let them go. In real life, sometimes you have to make hard choices to insure your future happiness.

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[–] codek14 15 years ago

Your right. That's why this movie is called Lie to Me. Because She lied to him about the kid.

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[–] BrittanyWiliam83000 15 years ago

And I agree with you mermaid. And for Mason I think he loves Olivia, because when he saw her with that guy he became mad and punch him, and he never actually did it to James, he never hit him because he slept many times with his girlfriend. And I remember at the begenning of the movie when Olivia's friends asked him to come to their party and he had sex with Kim, the next day he wanted to apologize to Olivia whereas they have never done anything yet, they weren't together. But when he had sex with Olivia for the first time in his appartement while Sam was upstair he wasn't umconfortable and he didn't apologize. And if he wasn't in love with Olivia why he didn't get with her friend Kim, he had the opportunity and she isn't his best mate little sister!

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[–] coleburg83 14 years ago

At least he was using protection, which she obviously wasn't while lecturing him about it. I was actually surprised that Mason would not have had a vasectomy.

Anyway, he was lucky to get out. She was nutty.

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[–] JebDaBush 14 years ago

I was upset about the movie. It went from exploring a different type of relationship to a movie preaching the traditional relationship. I think there are enough failed marriages and cheating to show the traditional has as many problems as the open relationship portrayed in this move. In the end I didn't feel to sad for the guy as everyone of the happy couples shown at the end relationships will go down the toilet at some point.

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[–] Noir-82 14 years ago

I think the disappointing ending is what made the movie work so well; and it also gave it a sense of realism as considering their extremely unusual circumstance, a Happily Ever After ending would've seemed like a big plot cop out.

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[–] jorgito2001 13 years ago

Everyone is making some excellent points and I have to admit, I enjoyed this flick...I started it at around 9:30pm feeling pretty drowsy, thinking "I'll watch about 30 minutes and finish it tomorrow..."...I ended up watching the WHOLE thing in one sitting.

That said, all I have to say is I DID feel a bit bad for Mason at the very, very end. True he looked like he had everything going for him career-wise, but his emotions seemed to still be a wreck on the inside!

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[–] hoochiemoochie 12 years ago

I was disappointed in the ending because while it was more realistic, it just had Mason lose too much. He lost Sam who was the love of his life (even though he didn't realize that until the end of their relationship); he lost his very best friend and manager; and he lost Olivia who had known him since she was young and acted as though he was the one she always wanted to be with.

Now, I have to say that near the end of the film when Sam found out she was pregnant and things began falling apart I started to dislike Mason because it just seemed like he was not willing to fight for someone who obviously loved him very much, but then when he confronts Sam back at their place and poured his heart out I really felt bad for him when she said it wasn't his child. He seemed like he was ready to accept that life and grow up but it was now too late; then, at the end, we have to see him meet up with his old gang who all seem to still be friends while he has become the outcast. And then, he has to meet the kid and act all happy as he sees each of these people who abandoned him five years earlier.

It just didn't seem fair that he had to lose all those relationships for no good reason. I mean those people were his life and we have to see him lose them all. That doesn't make it a bad movie or ending...just very depressing.

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