For the last time, Jordan didn't rape Naomi...

No means no. Stop means stop. Let's go again means "I forgot the safe word, sorry" or "I love mixed messages. It fracks mens minds".

Now, which one was it? My thoughts? They forgot to even agree on a safe word, never mind her forgetting it.

Ohhh so now, it wasn't that she used the "wrong" words, but her delivery wasn't "firm" enough............ Okay.

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Yep, he would not have done it; he was a reasonable man, after all. And straight after, if she'd told him not to punch her repeatedly, he wouldn't have done that either.

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It most certainly was not a consensual act. Naomi did not want him, she wasn't enthusiastic about him, she despised him. She had already decided by this point that she no longer loved him and wanted a divorce: what he did, in my mind, was assaultive.

BTW, to you oversensitive people, I don't hate women. I love women. Real rape is absolutely incomprehensible and disgusting to me. But by calling Jordan a rapist in this scene, you're really, really reaching.

This isn't the kind of barbaric rape you're thinking about, but it's rape nevertheless because it's forced. Consider the context of the scene; Naomi wants nothing to do with this man anymore, plans on divorcing and moving away from him, and right before says "good for you" when he discusses his future. She then explicitly says "stop jordan" but he thinks it's a part of the game so continues, then we have the jump cut to her clearly not enjoying this act of 'love' while saying "i hate you jordan". This isn't brutal rape at all, but just because it's between a married couple doesn't mean it can't be considered rape. Rape is simply forced sex.

It's an intentionally ambiguous scene, but for my money there's no reason to include a sex scene at that point in the film without some intention by the filmmakers. The intentions to me are that even when this character has everything he wants, he can't get enough. Even when his wife is surely done with him, he needs to have full control over her. He forced her into having sex because, like the investors and all the other sheep he manipulates, they have no say in the matter. Don't take no for an answer. This is the wolf's game. And the wolf always wins.

Holy crap. This is bone chilling. All of these rape apologists in one area is making my skin crawl. We all know that you scum bags exist, but to see your thought process is just absolutely horrifying.

He was dead weight, two and a half times her size laying on her, and she CLEARLY didn't want it. Anyone "with a brain, anyone who is socially conscious, anyone who accepts and loves traditional male and female intercourse, anyone with common sense can see that."

A man's low voice and powerful demeanor is enough to scare women into thinking that they have no choice, that they're being forced to do things

They don't realize that men and women are designed for this strong versus weak, dominant versus submissive routine.

Everyone who condemns Jordan for what he did to Naomi in that scene are brainwashed to the point of being psychotic. You have to be nuts to think of sex with such a touchy, jumpy and spiteful attitude. It's completely antisocial.

Well said.

"Sell me this pen."

For Christ's sake, he hesitated until she said "fine" and invited him to "*beep* her like it's the last time". I despise rape culture as much as the next person but I think oversensitivity and jumping the gun trivializes the issue and makes the good cause look ridiculous.

Yeah, there's no question he rapes her. She says 'no', and then he's humping her. AFTER that, after he's already started raping her, she does the whole 'cum for me one last time thing' because, as someone else pointed out, it's the only choice she has left. But it is a rape scene. She says no, and he starts banging her anyway. I don't know how much clearer it could have been.

It was a clear rape. When she taunted him to cum, she did it because she had resigned to it and wanted it to finish as soon as possible.

It's not even a matter of reading her body language. She clearly tells him to stop.

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