Horrid movie
I couldn't watch it as nothing sustained me to the end. *beep* movie just for horny men
shareYeah, this certainly isn't a film for politically-correct wussy Democrats.
shareSo you admit republicans are stupid rich drug addicts who steel money. Finally one admits it lol.
shareDanny-Sickmeller, moron, brainwashed nitwit. It's the Democrats who "steal" money and defraud the the American Public.
And it's bleating sheep like you who create a one party tyranny and laugh all the way to WIC office. What a shcmuck.
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So Republicans are selfless saints who have nothing but the interest of the public at heart, yes? Not ever bigoted, hypocritical scumbag morons out for themselves?
Never like Donald Trump, eh? He must be the exception.
Damn, I wish I could say "I hope Trump gets elected, so you can see just how hard he will shaft your naive ass" if it wasn't for the fact that a Trump in power will literally DESTROY THE ENTIRE WORLD. Either by causing financial meltdown within 2.5 years or by starting World War 3 with China.
"It's too late... Always has been, always will be...
Too late."
Check your history: it was the democrats who fought for slavery and the republicans who abolished it. The republicans fight to have less government control in our country. The democrats are the ones who want to control every aspect of life under the guide of "trying to help". Sounds like their helping the poor and all that until the time comes people realize it hurts us but it's too late because they tricked us into increasing their power and sealing it with law.
Who do you think was responsible for all the invasive NSA policies? It was under the democrats and Obama. Bush started it but the democrats took it to a whole new level.
"Common sense is not so common"
First off, don't bring in the differences between the Republicans and the Democrats of over 2 centuries ago, are you serious? The Republicans of back then were not the stomach-turning corporate ass-lickers of today. Secondly, "The democrats are the ones who want to control every aspect of life" Haha! Really? So then it's not Republican MEN (it's mostly men) who want to tell women what to do with their own bodies? Huh. News to me, and to pretty much EVERYONE ELSE, EVER.
Then you say "The republicans fight to have less government control in our country." Hahaha! Just look at tort reform!
That ridiculous refrain they keep bleating, which only willfully uninformed fools blinded by their own hatred believe anymore, is the poisonous smokescreen they use to push through as many laws as they can to make you be governed by CORPORATIONS - faceless, protected monstrous entities that are now almost totally unaccountable to the people - and on the rare occasions they DO get punished for *some* of their despicable behaviour, they just pay a fine (mostly, a mere pittance compared with what they make) or even worse, they can often wriggle out of it by declaring bankruptcy, dissolving and re-forming elsewhere with a different name, like a modern day unkillable Hydra.
Republicans have managed to convince people like you (terrifyingly easily, I might add) that you should want to relinquish the power of the government, i.e. a body made up of YOUR REPRESENTATIVES, but they didn't quite tell you you'd be doing it in order to be governed by corporations, entities whose ONLY PURPOSE is to make as much money as possible, for themselves and their slimy government friends and enablers, most of them Republican, to the detriment of - guess who? The poorest working stiffs on the bottom rung AND of course, the planet. You know, that place we ALL live on and can not replace? Ring a bell? But sure, let's slowly destroy the planet to make a quick buck.
This "me first and screw everyone else" myopic attitude was PERFECTLY encapsulated in Trump's foreboding and ignorant "America first" inauguration speech.
LOOK AT WHAT TRUMP HAS DONE IN JUST HIS FIRST FEW DAYS! It STARTED with ATTEMPTING TO ERASE ALL TRACE OF CLIMATE CHANGE from the White House website, and then just got much, much worse - just peruse these two short articles right here:
thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/317739-house-votes-to-overturn-obama-oil-and-gas-rule
thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/317616-senate-votes-to-block-obama-coal-rule
Trump is attempting to revive the DIRTIEST of all fossil fuel industries, not just filthy in terms of the pollution that burning the coal creates, but in terms of the damage the mining in process does, all in the name of "bringing back jobs", but this is a pathetic pretext. He takes and makes money from the heads of the industry. And if you really want to talk about jobs, why not work tro create jobs in the tourism and its offshoot industries, who it so happens want a clean and unspoilt environment??
This terrible industry was dying a natural death, EVERYBODY knew it, and all agreed it was a very good thing, apart from a few poor schmoes who rather than try to retrain, seem to be happy filling their lungs with coal dust in order to die of pulmonary complications by the age of 50, AND obviously, the coal industry heads/mine owners and their suckling lobby.
His cabinet picks tell you everything you need to know: an OIL BOSS in charge of policy??? There's not even any pretense to the corruption anymore! Betsy DeVos will ensure your children are kept stupid, so the conglomerates can go about their business as unobstructed as possible, while the banks keep you perpetually poor, allowing you JUST enough to keep you going so you can serve them and all the other corporations, by being a good consumer and worker bee, aka " patriot" because that's how they define a patriot now: someone who never complains about their corruption, but attacks whoever oppose them, someone who praises everything they do as long as they attach the "American" prefix to their endeavours (while trying not to show you the "Made in Mexico / China" stamp underneath).
Your signature says that "common sense is not so common". Irony at its most pointed.
"It's too late... Always has been, always will be...
Too late."
See this is the problem with hard core liberals. They are just as bad as hardcore conservatives because both groups see everything as black and white, us and them. I'm not republican OR democrat. I am whatever I need to be in the moment depending on where I am in my life.
When I was in school, was broke and needed financial aid I was all for Obama. When I graduated and needed loans and lower taxes so I could start a business and afford to pay my friends so they could have jobs, I was for Trump.
Neither side is completely wrong, or right. There are plenty of republicans who are pro-choice and there are many democrats that are pro-life. You're shorting yourself if you choose to pick a side and then forever stay loyal to it. They are elected by us and work for us. And most importantly they are a reflection of us. If you don't like who is in office then what you really don't like are the people who voted for them. However, you can always be sure, that there will be those who disagree with your values because they have lived lives that you'll never be able to relate too. Just as they could never relate to yours.
It's fine to disagree, but confrontation doesn't enlighten anyone. It just come down to wanting to win and do what easy instead of asking if it's right.
"Common sense is not so common"
Whoever said I was a Democrat, btw? Just because I'm pointing out the flaws and evil currently emanating from the Republican side?
And as for picking sides and sticking to them, the ONLY side I would ever pick is the side of right vs wrong, good vs evil, justice vs opression. And because of course, it's not always as clear-cut as that, given the choice of one terrible situation over a less terrible, but still bad one, if I must absolutely pick, I will pick the lesser evil, while continuing to fight it if and as I can. However, if that evil is SO GREAT as to poison and threaten EVERYTHING around it, the core ethical and moral values of HUMANITY, and if that evil is turning the world UPSIDE DOWN by making fact into lies and lies into facts, I have to take a stand and refuse to choose, so that's how we get to resistance.
For me, this isn't about winning as sport, which it CLEARLY IS FOR TRUMP - all you have to do is look at his tweets and the moronic emphasis he puts on "winning", being a "winner", and the disdain he shows for those he perceives to be "a loser". No, for me winning is only important because I know where the alternative of losing THIS PARTICULAR FIGHT leads us.
I agree with you that "picking a side and forever staying loyal" to it, sticking to it through ANYthing, EVEN if your side is starting to do undefensible things, is a terrible idea, and I would never support that. It's partly what got America in this mess, Republicans voting for a scumbag they didn't like and in fact KNEW to be a scumbag, just because they looked at it as a partisan issue rather than a humanistic one. They CHOSE a despot and will come to regret it. Many already do.
But you've effectively admitted you're a turncoat, changing allegiances as the wind blows, and while that is a pretty pathetic way to go about your life, I can understand people voting with their interest, BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM with that as it pertains to Trump: unless you're an old billionaire with no ethics and hugely questionable business practices hoping not to be uncovered and punished and assailed from many angles once all your dealing and double-dealings and promises and favours have been uncovered, then YOU ARE NOT BEING REPRESENTED BY DONALD TRUMP. So if you voted for Trump, you have just voted AGAINST ALL OF YOUR INTERESTS.
"It's too late... Always has been, always will be...
Too late."
So you admit republicans are stupid rich drug addicts who steel money. Finally one admits it lol.
You can always count on some dumb Demo (i.e. Danny-Sichmeller) to come along and divert the topic away from Democrats to something irrelevant and/or erroneous about Republicans.
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Really? You're using politics to judge audience reaction to a movie?
Well I'm left wing and I loved it. Explain that dick!
As a "politically-correct wussy Democrat" I found it to be a masterpiece.
Think about that for a second.
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No reason to politicize this thread with some republican playbook hate. I swear it seems like some mission a bunch of mean-spirited reps like to jump in saying ridiculous things when no one even brought up politics. It's like a playbook. Say stupid crappy things every chance you get, just to pollute the atmosphere. Sheesh.
I'm not a woman much less Deanna Durbin, but the old-time glam-shot appeals to me.
Yeah, because for sure the left never does cr*p like that. I mean, when CNN posted that fake buzzfeed story, CNN only posted the stuff which they could verify as being true, right?
I won't comment on CNN's role in this as it gets complicated, but every news source I heard after the dossier was leaked said it was not reliable. That's the difference.
When someone on the right decides it's time to slag a progressive, they send out the barking dogs and echo chambers and drum so loud as to convince their easy to please followers that anything emanating from fox is gospel. That's how Kerry got swift-boated, and HRC's accusing of murdering people to avoid email scrutiny. If someone on the left is foolish enough to use repub tactics against them, it surely does not surprise me.
I'm not a woman much less Deanna Durbin, but the old-time glam-shot appeals to me.
I won't comment on CNN's role in this as it gets complicated, but every news source I heard after the dossier was leaked said it was not reliable. That's the difference.
Right. The difference is that buzzfeed new the report was fake, and CNN new the report was fake, but still published it in an attempt to discredit President Trump.
Reports used to get fired and stations used to lose their licenses for doing that. It is inexcusable and indefensible. Yet, we see it all of the time.
I'm not talking about getting duped - that can happen to anyone. I'm talking about KNOWING that the story isn't real and/or that the source isn't credible, but running with it regardless - *coughDANRATHERcough*
When someone on the right decides it's time to slag a progressive, they send out the barking dogs and echo chambers and drum so loud as to convince their easy to please followers that anything emanating from fox is gospel.
How exactly is that any different than CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, etc? They all have the fake head-lines and false narratives.
And, speaking of false narratives,
someone on the left is foolish enough to use repub tactics against them,you do realize that Fox hasn't been around nearly as long as the liberal "news" networks, right? They were doing that cr*p long before Fox was around. As a matter of fact, it is BECAUSE they were doing that cr*p and pushing an agenda instead of simply reporting the news that Fox came into being.
The hate and lies come from the left. We were told that if we disagreed with 0bama's policies we were racists. Of course, liberals then went on to call Herman Cain, Dr. Ben Carson and all other black Conservatives "Uncle Tom's."
We're told that elections have consequences and 0bama won, so we have to deal with it. President Trump wins and the left is doing everything to discredit him and rioting.
We're told that we have to accept all people's beliefs including those of a full grown man who declare, but the left sure doesn't want to accept Christian's beliefs.
The left has a different (lower) set of standard for themselves than they do for everyone else. If they held themselves to the same set of standards, the country could heal and move forward.
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This is where I respectfully disagree and will part ways. I feel strongly that fox has polluted the discourse and empowers the worst aspects of the right to come forward like bullies. You obviously see things differently, so there isn't much else to be said.
As far as Christian beliefs, we already have achieved a supposed secular society where no candidate can run for higher office w/o claiming to be Christian. It seems to be the more important thing is wearing the Christian badge than having Christian values to ward the poor and dispossessed. And I'm sure you see things differently.
I suppose if pigs had wings they would make for better target practice? Haha.
Gonna be an ugly next four years, that's for sure.
I'm not a woman much less Deanna Durbin, but the old-time glam-shot appeals to me.
I feel strongly that fox has polluted the discourse and empowers the worst aspects of the right to come forward like bullies.
The problem is, that isn't supported by any means. Again, stations used to lose their licenses for publishing/reporting news they knew to be fake. CNN admitted they knew the story was fake and published it any way. That isn't the first time they've done it and won't be the last.
As far as the "bullies" go, what about what Hillary ad Debbie Wasserman-Schultz did to Bernie Sanders and his supporters? How about Hillary hiring mentally ill people to disrupt Trump rallies? Would you please show me the huge riots after the 1996 or 2008 elections? Would you show me the celebrities in 2008 who said "Eff you" to people who disagree with them? Or the ones back then who thought about blowing up the WH? How about all of the violence in the Tea Party rallies? Oh, wait. There wasn't anything significant compared to the riots, rapes and vandalism of the Occupy Wall St. movement.
You are either ignorant of history or willfully blind to it. The hatred, violence and bullying come from the left.
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I'm not a young person. I've observed politics and social movements for a long time. Listening to you, you sound like the right wing echo chambers. You hear all these bad things that are either outright lies or perversions of the truth and you believe them whole-heartedly w/o a critical eye. I can't change that. So just don't reply to me anymore. There are so many people just like you I find it dis-heartening for the future of rational discourse. Good luck to you. Most progressive people I know don't even bother to get involved in these sorts of debates because it's a waste of time. Repubs seem to enjoy it while the progressive side doesn't. Hiring mentally ill people? Of course, (sarcasm). Just silly and that's being kind. If people are rioting it's because a lot of people are genuinely upset being under the thumb of an unstable narcissist, and then a bunch of apolitical thugs just use that as a smokescreen to create mayhem. But people like you and your ilk twist it as if liberals are out there burning cars. People are rightly upset about this electoral outcome. People were calm during the Obama years because we felt like we had a cool headed leader. Trump can't stand anything that doesn't make him look like the most popular person in history and responds to criticism like a petulant 7th grader. He's an awful person and anyone who doesn't see that has bizarre views about what it's like to be a human being.
But like I said, I'm not going to continue this so respond or not -- au revoir.
I'm not a woman much less Deanna Durbin, but the old-time glam-shot appeals to me.
You hear all these bad things that are either outright lies or perversions of the truth and you believe them whole-heartedly w/o a critical eye.
Right. So everything you disagree with is a lie.
There are so many people just like you I find it dis-heartening for the future of rational discourse.
What discourse? You've not addressed any of the points I've made. You cite bullying by the right, but refuse to address the bullying done by the left. How about the snowflakes at Berkeley who just rioted rather than have someone of a different mind-set speak?
Hiring mentally ill people? Of course
This is the real reason why progressives don't get into discussions with Conservatives - they hate to lose.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/18/undercover-video-shows-democrats-saying-they-hire-/
http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/trump-rally-disrupter-was-once-on-clinton-campaigns-payroll/
If people are rioting it's because a lot of people are genuinely upset being under the thumb of an unstable narcissist,
No, Hillary didn't win.
then a bunch of apolitical thugs just use that as a smokescreen to create mayhem.
And, for "some reason" they ONLY do that with the lefties. It is almost like the lefties are hate-filled, hypocritical bigots who are easily moved to violence.
But people like you and your ilk twist it as if liberals are out there burning cars.
Birds of a feather. If it really isn't your ilk doing this or simply accepting of it, then you need to stand up and speak against it. Of course, that takes having a back-bone, and it is obvious by your squirming around the points I make that you have none.
People were calm during the Obama years because we felt like we had a cool headed leader.
No, Conservatives were calm because we accept how the government works and use the power to stop 0bama when we can. Liberals were calm because they loved their lord and master and blindly accepted whatever he sh!t out, such as a law which, for the first time EVER, taxed us for NOT buying something.
Trump can't stand anything that doesn't make him look like the most popular person in history and responds to criticism like a petulant 7th grader
No way in the world you are ever going to bother looking into the reports of 0bama's temper tantrums and antics, or how Hillary treated people who worked for her, is there?
He's an awful person
But he's still 10,000,000 times better than Hillary was. She lusted after power her entire life. That makes her the exact person to NEVER have power.
But like I said, I'm not going to continue this so respond or not -- au revoir.
That doesn't surprise me. You see the typical, cowardly, ill-informed liberal who won't question anything the left-wing media spews because you can't think for yourself.
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I'm not a woman much less Deanna Durbin, but the old-time glam-shot appeals to me.
So, you deleted your own post?
Like I said, you are the typical snowflake, low-intelligence, hypocritical moron the dems depend upon for their power.
And I never once called you names. Talk about bullying. Just because you think black is white and up is down doesn't make it so. At best I call it a disagreement, but you act like you are some objective seer who knows all, when all you are doing is repeating garbage other people have told you to regurgitate. Snowflake? What's that supposed to mean? Do you come up with that, or did you see that on some repub hate column and thought it was fun to repeat? If I'm so low-intelligence, a hypocritical moron, why do you bother? Because you enjoy belittling people. Go speak to your own overlords and pray they bestow their ill-gotten gains and hope for a white power, gun-toting one-party, nazi amerika. Why build a wall, just bomb Mexico on the way to Iran and Syria. Dick Cheney will make a lot of money. I'm sorry but the right is all about calumny and venality.
Nixon had Watgergate, Reagan tore down the middle class and the social safety nets, W created endless war. What do repubs have to be proud of? Hell , Dems abandoned the South because of racism and repubs were more than happy to swoop in just to gain real estate, damn the moral consequences.
And I don't refute your points because they aren't worth responding to. If you cherry pick some article just to justify your point, it means nothing. An apology could be published the next day, but you're not going to acknowledge that. I'm sorry, but you aren't thoughtful or conciliatory. It's your way or no way. And on top of it you are rude. If your points should be taken seriously, you should present them seriously. Instead you make ridiculous statements that even George Will or David Brooks wouldn't give the time of day. Just hangout with such brilliant sober-minded scholars like Limbaugh, O' Reilly, and Hannity.
But I still haven't personally called you any names. Good god ! You are a hateful person. I get an email. I deleted it. Then I took a couple hours off and was curious whether you might have taken a pleasant course. And it gets worse. So if you want to amuse yourself by being a d**k go ahead.
I'm just glad everyone else I speak to seems to be thoughtful and polite.
I'm not a woman much less Deanna Durbin, but the old-time glam-shot appeals to me.
Talk about bullying.
Yes, I did. I gave you specific examples of the hypocrisy of the left where Hillary and others are the bullies, including your ilk which rioted rather than allow free speech.
You, on the other hand, cannot give actual examples of it from the right.
At best I call it a disagreement
That's because you know your position is wrong, and therefore won't go into a deep discussion about it.
Do you come up with that, or did you see that on some repub hate column and thought it was fun to repeat?
Again, CNN posts a story which they KNOW to be false, and you somehow "think" the right spews the hate.
If I'm so low-intelligence, a hypocritical moron, why do you bother?
There is no "if" here. Why do I bother? Because there is always a chance, usually extremely small, that someone like you possesses enough intelligence that they are willing to open their minds and not simply accept what their liberal masters have told them is the truth. I always hope that when someone like you is shown the truth, such as how Hillary ACTUALLY bullied people, you would question the liberal play book you recite. Alas...
Go speak to your own overlords and pray they bestow their ill-gotten gains and hope for a white power, gun-toting one-party, nazi amerika.
You just PERFECTLY described the democrats. Hillary takes bribes for her wealth, you just ran two old, white people for POTUS, Hillary, Pelosi and the rest of the ilk all love the guns which they have to protect themselves (while wanting to make it harder/take them away from the average American) and, as we see from the riots going on, they are more like the nazi's than anyone else.
You really should stop while you are behind.
I'm sorry but the right is all about calumny and venality.
0bama could have withdrawn troops any time he wanted. Instead, he kept it going for 8 years. Plus, he helped take out allies and destabilize the area, and emboldened the enemy.
Nixon had Watgergate,Clinton had White Water.
Reagan tore down the middle class and the social safety nets,
Reagan & Bush's policies had a huge impact upon the growth of the country. You are probably too young to remember how bad things were in the 70's. Reagan & Bush opened things up and the economy boomed all of the way through Clinton's reign. But, you aren't interested in facts.
W created endless war.
Not only could 0bama have ended the war any time, but most dims were quite in favor of the war, including both Clinton's. But, that doesn't fit your narrative.
Dems abandoned the South because of racism
If only the dims abandoned racism.
And I don't refute your points because they aren't worth responding to.
Spoken like the true, pathetic putz who is afraid to try have a discussion because they know they will be shown to be wrong and stupid.
If you cherry pick some article just to justify your point, it means nothing
What apology? They flat out said when they published it that they knew it was fake. Anyone with any moral character would denounce them immediately for doing such a thing. Of course, I understand why you don't...
I'm sorry, but you aren't thoughtful or conciliatory.
I'm very thoughtful to people who have thoughts and can support them with facts and logic. People who spew lies, hatred, ignorance and refuse to support their hatred with any facts aren't worth me being thoughtful of. And, why should I be conciliatory? I'm right and there is nothing to gain from being conciliatory to someone who cannot support their points. A discussion is give-and-take, and you've not had any of that. You spew your hateful talking points and cannot give any thought to my actual points.
Instead you make ridiculous statements that even George Will or David Brooks wouldn't give the time of day
You mean the dried-up, old establishment prunes?
Just hangout with such brilliant sober-minded scholars like Limbaugh, O' Reilly, and Hannity.
Yeah, they are so brilliant that they correctly predicted President Trump would win.
I'm just glad everyone else I speak to seems to be thoughtful and polite.
Are they liberals like you, or just RINO? Because if you speak to anyone who has a back-bone the way you speak her, I'm sure you get b!tch slapped like you do here.
If you are going to engage in a discussion, don't just spout off the cr*p your masters tell you to. Actually read about it from all sides and form your own opinion. When you do that, you won't be afraid to discuss the points made.
But, you are afraid to discuss them because you know you have nothing to back them up.
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I won't comment on CNN's role in this as it gets complicated, but every news source I heard after the dossier was leaked said it was not reliable. That's the difference.
When someone on the right decides it's time to slag a progressive, they send out the barking dogs and echo chambers and drum so loud as to convince their easy to please followers that anything emanating from fox is gospel. That's how Kerry got swift-boated, and HRC's accusing of murdering people to avoid email scrutiny. If someone on the left is foolish enough to use repub tactics against them, it surely does not surprise me.
I'm not a woman much less Deanna Durbin, but the old-time glam-shot appeals to me.
So let me get this right: are you in any way taking away from this film that Scorsese condoned any of Belfort's pathetic behaviour?
At the very least, it certainly looks like you condone it, and possibly admire it. The American dream, eh? Make as much money as you can, no matter how many people you have to rip off and damage along the way, eh? "America first"!
"It's too late... Always has been, always will be...
Too late."
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shareI'm a 'wussy' democrat and I hated it. Nothing but sex and foul language. Wait! Perfect for Trump supporters! I couldn't watch the whole thing either. And WTF does politics have to do with it? You half-wit You!
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