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Character change I didn't quite get


I just watched this when it aired on BBC America the last 2 nights and had a question about what happened with Nasima. I'll admit I wasn't paying as close attention as probably necessary but I didn't quite get the jump to the terrorist training camp. One second she is trying to stop her family members from beating her boyfriend to death and seemingly on the verge of fleeing back to Britain with him and the next she is signing up with the terrorist people. Did I miss something?

It seriously took me a minute to realize that she was training to become a suicide bomber and not getting herself smuggled out of Pakistan. It seemed a bizarre turn for someone who never seemed to embrace Pakistan or Islam in general. She certainly didn't appear happy at leaving Britain for Pakistan. I mean I guess I could see the whole thing being one big expression of bitterness but I felt like the evolution from westernized student activist to suicide bomber was abrupt and rather unexplained.

Was this a plot hole that others noticed or did I really just miss some really important scene?

Anyway I feel bad for you Europeans with those people in your countries. We have issues obviously with illegal immigration and MS-13 crap but at least none of them have suicide bombing on their agendas. Don't get me wrong, I don't think our little "war on terror" has been anything but counterproductive in numerous ways but I still am frightened by the utter rejection of modernity Islam seems to stand for these days. I feel the same way about evangelical Christians but they haven't flown planes into any buildings or blown themselves up on the metro yet.

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Here's the thing with the UK, IMHO. There was never any need to admit so many Pakistanis in the first place. The industries they were encouraged to work in were on their last legs before they even arrived. Since then, over two or three generations, their lives have become less and less productive on the whole. Although there are a good number of professional, middle class families, there are entire 'sink' housing estates throughout the country peopled by Pakistanis/other muslims on welfare, where the opportunities for advancement are rare, and youngsters are pretty much left to their own devices. Everything is paid for for them - cradle to grave welfare society, high birth rates, self-imposed isolation from the host population. They feel out of place, they are sometimes bitter and resentful at having been born in a country where the main population does, in fact, its best to ignore their existence. This, together with the importation of radical imams, is causing a tremendous surge in fundamentalism.

At the same time highly placed muslim spokesman have the ear of influential PC proponents in the UK government, demanding equality which in fact often turns out in fact to be advantage for a lucky few. This results in the host population feeling resentful of what they perceive to be powerful anti-British foreign influences adversely affecting their quality of life. The insistence by the PC powers that be, e.g. on renaming Christmas 'Winterval', and banning nativity scenes in public, despite the fact that non-christians, inc muslims, have never objected to the public celebration of Christmas or other Christian festivals.

And so what to do about it all. I cannot see how things can continue as they are. Any solution which does not 100% favor muslims and other minorities is roundly condemned immediately as racist, and is thrown out, together with anyone who suggests it.

While people can be dismissed from their employment for any slight incident (say the use of one word) which could be considered racist - a personal friend of mine, a very highly qualified public servant, was dismissed after thirty years in the public sector for racism, having innocently and unthinkingly uttered a word during a meeting which could only vaguely be construed as having anything to do with racial matters at all - there have been enacted by Nulab draconian laws which would not be out of place in the old E. Germany, and which are employed daily against muslims.

IMHO the entire nation is suffering from schizophrenia, and is circling the drain as we speak.

One thing I will say - if young radical muslims start to believe in any numbers that they can impose their will by a campaign of suicide bombing, laying the blame for it at the door of the native British people, (as with Nasima) that will spell the end for the UK multi=cultural society. I don't know how it will be achieved, but I cannot see the native British population meekly accepting such a fate.





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That is why the bottom line is that immigration, especially modern immigration doesn't work and does not make sense for OLD WORLD countries. England or the UK and say all of Europe, are countries where cultures and people originate from. These are homogeneous countries. Why should they let in other people to immigrate and even more, why adapt and accommodate to foreigners? Some have said and written that the governments in Europe have done it on purpose because they are anti-Christian and anti-European culture. I don't know, but all I can say is that may God be with all of you in Europe and all Europeans should stand up and be proud of their culture, their ethnicities (of whatever country), and be proud of their roots and their faith and to practice your faith and cultural traditions, because some say that if they don't do any of this, then that leads to any kind of opening for outsiders to come in and take over with their own culture and faith. Just look at history with invasions and people either being forced to convert by the invaders, or the native citizens forcing the foreigners to convert or die or be forced to flee. This was exactly what happened in many countries in Europe such as the Spanish Inquisition. Best of luck to all! Also, when I go to Europe, I want to see European culture, it's people, it's language and setting. For example, if I go to England, I want to see English everything! Not non-English things.

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One of the reasons why (though I'll admit to not being completely sure of this)people from the Indian subcontinent came to Britain was because they were legally allowed to do so: their status as citizens of a Commonwealth country allowed them this. And they did do a lot of housekeeping jobs (e.g.cleaning toilets in office buildings, tube stations)that native Brits didn't want to do.
Some of those Pakistanis (or their fathers) did fight on the British side in WWI and WWII.

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I didn't quite understand the change in character either, but I got the feeling that she knew what she was doing when she told her father about her boyfriend. It seems to me that she had already set up a contact with the terrorist training camp before leaving for Pakistan and she knew exactly what her father would do when she told him about the boyfriend. He would send her to Pakistan which is where she needed to be. However, her contact got arrested at the airport in Pakistan and she had to find another. But to me, I truly didn't understand why she felt the need to resort to this. Because her best friend committed suicide? I'm just not seeing it.

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I'd bet the DVD has "Deleted Scenes". This was one of those programs that makes BBCAmerica's lame programming sometimes worth it.

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