Better than Elephant but inferior to Bang Bang You're Dead

QFT agnot. Elephant is worthless compared to this movie. This one is way realistic and believable. And I also haven't seen the Bang Bang movie but I don't think it can be as good as Klass.

"Elephant" was garbage? So is your opinion, worthless garbage..

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... in your opinion.

but the majority of voters don't share your opinion. that doesn't mean you're wrong, but your personal opinion is not a fact.

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I do think too that Elephant is a modern masterpiece.

You mean elephant is a modern piece of garbage.

Elephant is overrated garbage. The characters aren't convincing enough and the shooting scene is so freaking dream-like it's ridiculous. Heart of America is one of Uwe Boll's best but the characters aren't convincing enough and the movie strays too far away from the actual subject matter. Home Room isn't quite as good as people say it is and, like HoA, it strays too far away from the actual massacre. Medley is a bad Columbine movie but a good Troma movie. Bang Bang You're Dead is pretty decent for a made-for-television movie but it's not one of my faves. Hostage High shouldn't even get a mention because it's based on an entirely different massacre but, like Bang Bang You're Dead, it's such a good television movie that I think it deserves a word or two. Duck! The Carbine High Massacre is a really funny movie and it's definitely not as offensive as these stupid Media Watchdog groups are making it out to be. Zero Day and Klass are beyond the shadow of a doubt the greatest Columbine-themed films to be released.

Other films I recommend in terms of school violence are ''Class of 1984'', ''Dark Matter'', and ''Polytechnique''.

To the world you may just be somebody, but to somebody you may just be the world.

Elephant is far superior to either film in my opinion, Bang Bang Your Dead is sentimental oversimplified garbage, and this just blames school shootings on bullies. Elephant is smart enough to realise that the root cause for horrible acts like these is a far more complex and deeper issue then ZOMG THEY WERE BULLIED! People complain that it is unrealistic but that's the point, the charecters oblivious behavior signifies our obliviousness to all the horrible stuff like this that's going on around us.

Then people complain that it is too slow but the reason is because it's slowness:

Lulls the viewer into a trans like state before the carnage at the end.

The tracking shots simply follows the charecters through there day giving the movie a very neutruel, objective point of view. Not trying to tell us why it happened because that would be silly to take such a complex issue and try to say "this is why it happens", like Klass did, oversimplifying the issue.

We are introduced to lots of charecters through the tracking shots, that while we don't get to know them, they have a lot of symbolic significance.

We see the boredom of an everyday school day, perhaps trying to say that the boredom and repitition of everyday life made the killers feel repressed, causing them to commit this crime.

The film takes us through the killers day, just observing, giving us a bunch of possible reasons why this act was commited, but never really saying which reasons are the correct reasons for this thing happening.

Bang Bang Your Dead and Klass were both very simple minded movies, which is why they were not as good as Elephant.

I disagree.