These kids were a whole other level of evil

I felt the same way. Everyone knows that there IS a violence in ordinary schools but the violence showed in the film was pretty much. I haven't seen something like that in my life but for sure it happens every day. If you haven't seen something, it doesn't meen that it doesn't exist.

The girls and the other pupils in the school who have seen what was actually happening to Joosep - I think that's the point of the whole film. Their indifference expresses the regard of the society to this sort of problems. No one even cared about what was going on. It seemed like a normal and a typical thing to them. (except Kaspar, of course)

About the speaking about problems - I agree with you here. Everyone must speak about his problems even if they aren't so bad and dramatic as Joosep's. On the other hand as I said the society is indifferent. When Joosep was without shoes in the classroom, one of the teachers clearly saw that everyone in the class was making fun of him with the exception of Kaspar, but she didn't do anything on the matter. According to me, she even wanted to laugh with them.

Furthermore, if he has named the bullies, the teachers would have talked to them first than to punish them at the same moment. And when they talk to them, the bullies would lie and say the same things. Let's don't forget that one of the bullies - Paul was the best student in the class. About the others - they would say they didn't see anything.

Yes, I felt like the whole class was full of monsters (except Kaspar and maybe Kerli) who didn't care about the other people's feelings. This happens when everything is allowed and there is no discipline in schools. It is a problem of the whole society. That's why Joosep didn't want to share his problems - because he didn't expect an answer or even understanding.

To sum up, it is a great film which shows schools and students nowadays without hiding anything. One of my favorites.

Joosep clearly spoke up!

His father knew about the bullying, what did the father do to help his son? Oh yeah, he beat him up. May be the father could have, you know, go to school, bring up this issue to the principal, teachers, etc?

The teachers also knew, Joosep's mom called them. What did the teacher do? Got Joosep into even more trouble. Don't you guys see, speaking up did not solve anything, because even the adults did not know how to handle this situation.

So obviously the kid had only two options left - keep suffering or try and at least get even. Obviously he decided to do the latter, probably took a lot of guts to do that.

where I went to school we had a whole school beatup on this one kid , his name was simon, and beat him up, rip his clothes off ect. same as in this movie , occasionally someone might stand up for him, but usually he jusat got beatup.

You're right. This movie is extremely unrealistic and clichéd

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it's called mob mentality in my eyes this movie accurately portrays a certain kind of bullying, which explains why you may have never encountered this type of bullying before, as far as the teachers go I agree with the whole should be at the start of class and last to leave etc.. but bullies would still find windows to feed their hunger

I didn't feel like this movie showcased a new breed of evil, maybe it seems like that on the surface since it's based on high school bullying, but to me the beatings were light compared to what they could have been and the whole beach scene was a little irrelevant clearly tossed in there to give the ending more reason, I'm not downplaying it but honestly going into the movie I had read a few things about it and I was expecting a raw rape to the victim ultimately forcing him to do what he done and or commit suicide.

maybe it's because Ive seen too many raw prison movies but I still stand by my word, the movie felt light to me

well, i get your point and i kind of agree. But still, this kind of bullying is possible because:

They're in highschool. They are teenagers. They are insecure and they go with the flow. So when a huge bully like Anders shows up, they are all eager to follow. I hope you get my point. I think if it wasn't for Anders, the bullying would be so lighter, cause he was the leader