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Could any of this have been prevented?


I was just wondering, what exactly could Joosep have done in order to contain the situation, as well as what could Kaspar have done, so that the classmates would just STOP picking on them and like get a better life and find something to do other than "bullying", as well as have the notorious "beach assault" prevented and, even if that final act was in a way defended by some folks, but we all know in reality it was wrong and should never have happened, could the final murdering deed have been prevented as well?

And do you think that Joosep's parents, not to mention his father who was too strict and unhelpful in the situation overall, could have acted and reacted differently and also ensure that at the hands of fellow classmates, he doesn't get picked on anymore?

(On a sidenote, may I ask, why was Joosep so constantly bullied in the first place? And did it not occur to him at all that as the situation was reaching the breaking point, he could've informed the school authorities and dealt with the situation, and if not, he could've got his parents involved or even the police if so necessary?)

As paradoxical as it may sound, could the bullies THEMSELVES have prevented the final shooting from taking place, either by stopping to pick on them, or being told off and thus apologize to their victim(s), or even, let's say, being able to runaway faster and alert the police so as to prevent being killed by the two kids at school?

Just wondering if any of this could've been prevented!

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It may be kind of sadistic to say, but it may be true. If school shootings keep happening, maybe eventually, it will sink in to kids' heads that this could happen to them, and cause them to really think about what they're doing. No amount of teaching right from wrong is going to get through to some people, and sadly, maybe they have to be scared into stopping.

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weeji1 I can see indeed where you're coming from. But having said that, I really, on more levels than one, do NOT see how having MORE shootings can cause such a similar problem to stop or go away. Besides, how do shootings like this at school suppose to stop this problem from happening, and why or why do we have to assume that we really need more shootings to take place?

I mean, are we all, for the most part, SO completely without hope to change for better, and redeem ourselves, that simple strict punishments are not enough. No, we actually have to have MURDER that will sort it all out once and for all, right?

By the way, considering the fact that we are all indeed of the same species (human beings), why is it that SOME people,even at SCHOOL age as such, lean more towards being calm, nice, innocent and peaceful (and when attacked, become victims) whereas OTHERS are threatening, evil, cruel, misbehaving, violent (and they attack, thus becoming aggressors)? Could it be a simple case of those other people not being raised well or taught from an early child age about right or wrong and how (well, let's face it) serious it all is, or rather, how foolish it is to make such wrong choices.

Basically, in the paragraph above, I kind of wanted to know, both in the film and in real life, what is it that makes some people at that age aggressors and others normal people and victims of those aggressors? Like, what do the bullies have and/or don't have that non-bullies have and/or don't have that prevents them from being "bullies" IN the first place?

Going back to the film, does anyone else think it might've been better if we saw the class leader Anders, for instance, at home more often and learn about what motivates his behaviour as such? Like, maybe he has abusive parents. Maybe he was simply spoiled all his life and was never taught any discipline since his parents were so busy working abroad that he never learned the meaning of the word "morality" from a young age. Maybe he grew up in a rough neighbourhood and his father was a drug dealer. Maybe he was mentally insane. Maybe he watched too many violent films as a child!

Also weeji1, you've spoken quite a bit about your opinion that ultimately, this thing OVERALL cannot be stopped, even going to say that the actual SHOOTING was the right course of action. And I take it in your opinion, no, NONE of THIS actually COULD have been prevented, right? OK, fair enough!

But can I just ask also, what did you think of Joosep's FATHER's reaction and his unhelpful demands for his son to "fight back" etc, rather than having his father, say, go to the school principle or EVEN, since nothing else was working, move him to another school etc? And do you think HE could've done more to help the poor kid in the given situation.

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By the way, not that I ever DID think of it as being anything other than wrong. But does it not amaze you how school bullying, despite being, unlike a nuclear war or a brutal genocide etc, and not even being illegal as such, a seemingly ordinary everyday wrong matter, which even people that are not particularly evil and lacking in conscience as such can take part in at least once in their life, is so serious as a matter in society? And that when it isn't being stopped, it can reach such an awful level as it did in this film, where it isn't just bullying anymore but something even more harmful?

Then again, isn't this how major offenders often start as well - from somewhere small?

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From what I saw in the mini-series, Anders seemed to be a spoiled rich kid who could do no wrong in his mother's eyes. No abuse, no drug-dealing. Makes sense, considering he died screaming like a little b***h. Just a brat- nothing more, nothing less.

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But he, Anders, often SEEMED, genuinely aggressive and evil, rather than just spoiled. I mean, he even went further and performed an outright crime itself on the beach. And so often, those physical punches must have hurt a lot.

The greatest trick the Devil has ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist!

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Joosep could've transferred to another school. He didn't seem to have any friends at his school (except for Kaspar later on), so he wouldn't have to leave behind anyone he cared about. And starting at a new school with new people, maybe he could've found friends and not been bullied.

I'd ask you to play House, but you'd be a weird example for our kids.

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I was bullied at school. I transferred, and it didn't make a difference. After that, there were no more schools in my district for me to transfer to. There may have been no other schools for Joosep to transfer to.

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I think everything could have been prevented, and that that's the sad part of it.

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