I am very fond of both the actors but I didnt believe there romance or their spark at all. it was too dry, too planned out....none of it seemed authentic to me
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There was a lot more chemistry between Sherlock and Watson.
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She had no romantic connection to Holmes at all . . .
Not in the stories themselves, but Sherlockians/Holmesians have long speculated that there might have been something between them that Watson didn't record.
W.S. Baring-Gould, for example, famously claimed in his biography of Holmes (and the claim was not original to him) that Holmes and Adler had a romantic involvement in Montenegro that resulted in the birth of Nero Wolfe.
It's perhaps best to take the film as purporting to show us the "real" truth behind Watson's fictionalized accounts.
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Was he a friend of Conan Doyles?
No. He was simply one among many who have played The Game of imagining that Holmes was a real, historical person and trying to render the canonical stories consistent -- both internally and with what we know of real-world history.
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So I was right!
That's not what I said. I've given you a more complete answer here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1515091/board/nest/187539079?d=187590897#1 87590897.
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I am very fond of both the actors but I didn't believe there romance or their spark at all.
Agreed. Miss MacAdams is normally very likable onscreen, just didn't seem interested.
Guy Ritchie is quite good with male actors, I think, but I don't recall an interesting female character in a key role in any of his movies I've seen.
I honestly thought they had good chemistry..
shareI think Guy Ritchie very purposefully undermined the relationship that both men have with their women. The real true relationship in the film is between Sherlock and Watson.
There are 3 instances where Irene basically throws herself at Sherlock. In 1, she kisses him and he immediately passes out so he can't enjoy it, and she looks frustrated. The second time, he saves the damsel in distress (her) and you would expect the hero Sherlock would get his deserved kiss, and she says "thank you!!", throws her arms around him and kisses his cheek but he makes no move to kiss her. Instead he looks into the distance, completely disinterested in her, and says "we have to go help the doctor" and then he runs off to save Watson. Even at the very end when you would expect a kiss after saving her yet again, she leans in for a kiss and he doesn't budge. He stands up. She says "You'll miss me!" very desperately. He says "Sadly, yes." and kisses her chastely on the forehead. (lol, 'lets just be friends')
meanwhile, Sherlock is constantly trying to sabotage Watson and his fiancee, taunting him with the idea of an adventure, making Watson miss his dates, lose his engagement ring, imply she's a gold digger, etc. Sherlock was very eager to go on a dinner date with Watson until he heard Mary would be there. Other times he invites Watson to the Opera. Sherlock saves Watson's life , then Watson saves Sherlock's life. Sherlock falls asleep on Watson. etc etc etc
Not saying they are necessarily gay and have buttsecks, but there are undoubtedly homoerotic undertones that are deliberate choices by both the director, actors and writers. (these have been explictly confirmed by RDJ, et al and are even more pronounced in the 2nd film)
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Well, I would say that the deduction on the movie by you is not very much correct. Holmes never shows any closser affection towards Irene because he in general despises the idea of sentiment and closness as such. Thats why while her presence is very taunting for him, he only gives her a forhead kiss, the only kind of action he aloves himself to make. As to him sabotaging Watson´s and Mary´s wedding, well again, he despises the idea of sentiment and love as such and fears he would loose his only friend.
Actually, I think the movie showed even more romantic affection between Holmes and Irene than it should have had (just think of Irene mentioning their room at the hotel)
The BBC show Sherlock shows their "relationship" much better because it leaves so much in the mist.
I think that they had chemistry. He did not seem to love her, but then why did he have her pciture in his room or put himself in front of her when they were going to be split up by the pig machine.
I think he is too shy and cowardlhy to admit it.
I was heartbreaking at the end when he asks her what her one weakness was and she silently looks at him with this expressive gaze. That was chemistry for me and I almost cried. For real.
I think it stinks that she dies in the second movie.
I was too busy drooling over McAdams to notice whether or not there was any chemistry.
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Well, if you pay attention,neither Sherlok nor Irene are the typical couple.They have not an official relationship,I assume they like each other, but both are free spirit, work in separate ways and sometimes they are even enemies.
Irene is very cute,sophisticated and plays with Sherlok to seduce him and not involve with him.It is like she loves him and at the same time she ignores him.And as for Sherlock, as a man,he can feel attraction for Irene,but he is not like Watson, settle down with a girlfriend,a house..Sherlok is an adventurer, busy with his job,and thinking of the bad guys and the next thing they will do..and he doesn't trust Irene because sometimes she betrays him.
So I don't think they have no chemistry, they are independent and act like they are,when they see each other you can feel they like each other but not enough to fall in love seriously and settle down,it is like they ignore the strong feelings and besides Irene plays to seduce and fool Sherlock and he knows how she is,so it is impossible they act with the typical chemistry of a couple.
Neither Irene nor Sherlok are like a normal couple,because they are not even a couple.I think they were perfect in the movie.
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[N]either Sherlok nor Irene are the typical couple. . . . Neither Irene nor Sherlok are like a normal couple . . .
I can't disagree with that. A typical/normal couple consists of two people, and neither Sherlock nor Irene is two people. So neither of them is a typical/normal couple.
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Holmes is all about the challenge and the work. He doesn't fall in love, he is a detective. As much as he can in the Novels he is all about justice (With certain exceptions). Watson is his "muscle", the man with the service revolver, and provides medical expertise.
Pretty hard to be on the side of a law when the best, and smartest women you've ever met is a criminal.
His brother Mycroft is the same, he's a government employee, and similar to a human computer.
Neither one of the Holmes brothers seem to be interested in normal relationships.
The 13 year age gap between them was a little bit conspicuous, since McAdams looks a lot younger than her age. I felt the relationships between everyone were a little bit flat though. I also liked the cast, but I just didn't feel the movie. I liked it just fine, but nothing really stood out about it to me.
shareThat never bothered me. I like Rachael McAdams, but Irene Adler doesn't really interest me.
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