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Machete as a film is racist against White people


When did the director decide to turn Machete into a film that is racist against White people?

Perhaps Machete is even the most racist film against White people ever made, although there may be others I'm not aware of. If so, feel free to post them in this thread.

There is no way a film like Machete would get made if it was racist against other races in the same way that it is racist against White people.

When did being racist against White people become acceptable?

Has anyone else made the point before that Machete is racist against White people?

Is no one else disgusted by this film's racism against White people?

Does the director realize that by making a film that's racist against White people, he is only alienating them from supporting the real-life political agenda that he is trying to push with the film?

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I'm a gringo myself, and no, this movie doesn't offend me. Yes, the villians in this movie were white (like the villians in most movies), but not all of the white people are villians -- there's the reporter who exposed the senator's sleaze, the doctor in the network hospital, etc.

This is an action movie, and even more of a live-action cartoon than most. Like in all action movies, the villians are portrayed as larger (or more evil) than life, and they simply get what's coming to them. I was as happy to see the senator get killed as I was to see the henchman survive who surrendered. As a white guy, does that make me a racist?

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<facepalm>

"Leave the gun. Take the canolli."

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Exactly Athena. I'm very white and wasn't offended in the least. It's a frickin' not to be taken seriously, fun movie! Why are you reading so much into it? Just sit back, relax and enjoy the flick for what it is and not what you're trying to make it out to be. Are you a kkk member or something? Just crawl back under the rock you came from dude.

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What I actually meant, was that I think "Navaros" was trying to be funny. For almost any movie out there, there's a "Movie-X was racist against race-X" type post in the message boards.

Maybe I'm mis-reading it, and if the OP was being genuine, then I can't take it seriously anyways, as they're just a troll.

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"Leave the gun. Take the canolli."

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No, I'm not trying to be funny at all. The OP is 100% serious and the film backs it up.

For those giving the excuse that 'it's just a silly movie:' that excuse doesn't hold up because the Whites murdering Mexicans and making anti-Mexican hate speeches are presented in a serious way, as are the anti-White speeches by Mexicans. The only thing presented in a silly way in Machete are the scenes that have nothing to do with those things, and those parts are given a minority portion of the screen-time.

if the OP was being genuine, then I can't take it seriously anyways, as they're just a troll.


Pointing out the racism in a racist film like Machete is a legit criticism, not trolling. Your personal attack against me is trolling, however.

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Are you a kkk member or something?


No, I hate the KKK.

But it's funny you should mention that because it does seem that the writer/director of Machete is promoting the idea that Mexicans should assemble into a KKK-like group and commit hate crimes against Whites. I.e. the scene at the end of the film where they all hold up machetes and cheer at the idea of slaughtering Whites.

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Jesus Christ, I bet you think the Reconquista is coming as well, don't you?

What an idiot.

These bastards!

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La Raza claims it is, go on their site and call them liars.

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Hey this movie is nothing more than another raised glass to Grindhouse cinema. It's about exploitation. Have you ever seen a blackploitation film from the 70's( Films like Shaft or Superfly ). Where all the white characters are the evil doers and black guys have to protect their foxy ladys and their hood from the white man and exact revenge with excessive violence. It's supposed to be sterotypical and racist. It has nothingthing to do with world events or trying to get underneath peoples skin, there's no message. They're exploiting violence, nudity and racist stereotypes of both whites and mexicans for entertainment. That's all it is entertainment.
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Hey this movie is nothing more than another raised glass to Grindhouse cinema. It's about exploitation. Have you ever seen a blackploitation film from the 70's( Films like Shaft or Superfly ). Where all the white characters are the evil doers and black guys have to protect their foxy ladys and their hood from the white man and exact revenge with excessive violence. It's supposed to be sterotypical and racist. It has nothingthing to do with world events or trying to get underneath peoples skin, there's no message. They're exploiting violence, nudity and racist stereotypes of both whites and mexicans for entertainment. That's all it is entertainment.

You are dead on correct. The racial elements are there for entertainment. But there is certainly a heavy handed political message about the supposed injustice of white people who advocate enforcing American immigration laws.


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navaros and comoxj,

This movie wasn't racist. This movie was drawing characatures. Its style and action were so over the top that, obviously, the characters were too. Not to say racism doesn't exist, it certainly does. But it seems like it exists more among "white people" than anyone else.

How about the thousands of other films in which Mexicans are stereotyped? Got any problems with them?





She's not naked. She's holding a gun...strategically.

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This film isn't racist against whitey. Sure the villains were white (as they are in all 4 Die Hard films) but there was no suggestion that all white people are villains. It was in the style of exploitation and them all holding up Machetes at the end was because they were supporting Machete who was a hero to their cause and had just killed one of their oppressors. They didn't raise their arms and shout 'Kill Whitey!'

I am white myself and I wasn't in the slightest bit offended. Undercover Brother is worse for that. I don't find that offensive either other than because it's total s**t!


How much s**t is there on the menu and what *beep* flavour is it?

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there was no suggestion that all white people are villains.


Yes there is. That is the prevailing message of Machete.

They didn't raise their arms and shout 'Kill Whitey!'


Implicitly, that is exactly what they did. They did not do that with words, no, but with the visual images and implication of the words, shown and spoken right before they were going to slaugther a bunch of Whites, they did indeed say it, they just didn't say it verbally. They said it visually and thematically, which is just as bad.



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How about if the roles were reversed and let's say all the white people were black and all the Mexicans were white. You would have an issue with it and you know it.

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it wasnt really racist against white people, but it was pro illegal immigration. it was a bit anti-american, and it pissed me off a little bit that they thought they have a right to be in this country illegaly, but it's just a movie! the action was good though, that's the most important! and white people make movies all the time that are racist. i'm white, and i persoanlly don't think it was racist against white people, but more that it made it look like all white people are racists! still, i didn't have a problem with it. it's just a movie.

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Practically every white person living in this country is descended from immigrants, immigrants who were fleeing religious persecution, ethnic violence or poverty. We let them in. Now, once the nation is populated with white people we say no one else can come in? How hypocritical.

This movie was just pushing back against that a bit. I don't have a problem with that.



She's not naked. She's holding a gun...strategically.

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The variety of cultures is my favorite part of being an American -- keeps the place interesting.

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That sounds racist to me. I consider myself pretty creative, and try hard not to steal other people's ideas. And I've never tried to kill or control less wealthy people. I think some of the policies of the US have been misguided at best, and downright criminal at worst. And my ancestry is mainly Northern European.

As for the contention that I'm KKK, that's ridiculous. I voted for President Obama, and am generally pleased with what he's done, though I do disagree with him on several issues. I also consider Martin Luther King to be one of my heroes.

Maybe, comoxj, you don't know what the KKK stands for.

As for European immigrants having "papers" they were not the same as the kind of papers that are required today. Restrictions on immigration are much more stringent today. Look at the history of our immigration policy. We let a lot more white people in than people of other colors. And we do have a policy of accepting people who are fleeing oppression. You don't think Mexicans would rather stay in their own country? Apparently circumstances are so bad their that they need to risk crossing the border, working long hours for little pay and no benefits just to come here. It would be nice if they could straighten out their own country and defeat the drug cartels. Maybe if the US population would lesson it's demand for illegal drugs that would help circumstances.



She's not naked. She's holding a gun...strategically.

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"But that doesn't mean we have to let illegal immigrants without papers now."

Okay, fair enough. But I bet if it was a million blonde, blue-eyed, big breasted, Swedish females who were streaming across the boarder illegally, willing to work as domestic servants for low pay and no benefits you wouldn't have a problem.




She's not naked. She's holding a gun...strategically.

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Whites assimilate better into Western countries and that's a fact and that's why we wouldn't have a problem if the millions of illegals coming in were white.
And yet Daily Mail readers across Britain are constantly whining about 'all the Poles and other Eastern Europeans' (who are white in case you didn't realise) legally entering the country. Fack off you twat.

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First of all, I find it amusing how the OP considers this movie "racist" towards the so called "white people". I wonder if he is aware that Mexico has the third largest population of white people in latin america. In fact, there are more white people in Mexico than in Norway to name an example.

Second, to the comments made by the poster comoxj:

Even back when US accepted immigrants, they came with papers.
But now Mexicans just cross the border.


Actually long time ago the ones who crossed the border were the americans, when they took territories like Arizona, Texas and California as their own along with its mexican inhabitants, a fact which clearly upsets the rednecks even when those people were rightfully there to begin with.

Should US sympathize with Mexicans because their country is full of sh*t?


Mexico occupies number 6 with having more UNESCO heritage sites in the world (more than the USA), not to mention that mexican culture, history and heritage makes the US pale in comparison.

Of course, racist and ignorant pricks are unaware of this fact and just resort to make misinformed comments and remarks.


Should we open the border so that Mexican druglords could take over the nation?


The doors on the border in the US have been voluntarily opened for quite awhile, considering the fact that the very BEST customers for druglords are the american people. Yes, KKK boy, I am afraid that drugs are remarkably more widely consumed and loved in the US than in Mexico.

Please explain controlling illegal immigrants are 'hypocritical'?


If you are talking about hypocrisy, then I will tell you as a mexican and contrary to popular belief, I am 100% in favor of controlling illegal immigration, what I am agains 100% though, is towards the discrimination and generalization towards people who are there legally from people like you and the ones depicted in the movie.

US wants to control illegal immigration? It is quite simple actually, just punish severely those who give them jobs, no jobs= no incentive to go to the US.

But many people on the US become filthy rich by employing these illegal immigrants underpaying them because they know they can not complain with authorities and without giving them the benefits that a legal citizen would have. In that case, it is extremely convenient to have the illegal immigrants working for them.

It is also convenient when products attained from illegal workers in the fields, factories, etc, can be found at a very accessible low price in the supermarket, because without the cheap workers those very same products would double or triple their price in the market by forcing the employees to hire legals hence paying them more and having less profits, making lots of people whine about it.

Americans have the terrible habit of putting the blame completely in others ignoring their own faults and washing their hands.

And THAT, my friend, is called hypocrisy.







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Illegal immigration is a problem, push aside racism and everything else there are people who aren't legally supposed to be here taking jobs for low pay undercutting white people, black people, and legal mexicans, leeching off welfare even though they don't pay Taxes (that stuff that we all have to pay to live here) I don't know what people from scotland have to say about this at all, live here for a year and try to find a job. It's not JUST mexicans Illegal immigration from any country is a problem, it's just more prominent from mexico thus it gets more media attention. If white canadians we're pouring down here in large quantities and taking jobs for next to nothing, I would have a problem with that too.

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@BoxOfficePoison and juviejay

I love americans like you. I've thought my whole life that most americans were racists pricks (yeah, I was wrong to assume that), but when I see americans like you advocating for racial diversity, you just make me like the US again.
By the way, I'm not exactly pro-illegal immigration, and I'm very happy living in my own country (which isn't the US), but I'm pretty much against racism. I like americans like you both. Cheers.



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OMG not one time through out the movie is there ONE BAD THING said about white people. The whole dilemma of illegal immigration isn't about racism you dumbass people who believe it..

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You're an idiot and a disgrace to white people. Real talk.

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Comoxj I was born here. My family is here. What the hell are you talking about?

If your people cherished your country so much YOUR white ancestors wouldve never left their country in Europe. Hypocritical much?

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She's not naked. She's holding a gun...strategically.

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I live a few hundered miles from the mexican border and you'd be surprised how accurate this movie is. Beyond shooting a pregnant woman, the rest of the movie are things I've seen first hand. White people are portrayed in this movie in this manner because of what known in this area.

I live among whites, blacks, orientals, and middle-easterns. And the ONLY group that has a problem with mexicans coming across the border are white people. Some of the white people who run for office in Okla, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona do use illegal immigration as a tool to get votes, just not with the extreme nature of Robert DeNiro in the film.

I don't think this film is racist. It's just a somewhat exaggerated view of what is really going on close to the border.

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The main problem is white people in america are afraid of the people they conquered to get america in their names to begin with, taking this country back with force.

There are 3-4 billion Chinese/other Asian culture just waiting for the right excuse to conquer america, and white americans still whine and say crude words/perform acts of cruelty against Mexicans and other countries south of the equator.

Also saying "I voted for Obama" doesn't mean one single thing except you felt compelled to vote for someone based on their skin pigmentation, good job you closet hater of cultures.

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"Also saying "I voted for Obama" doesn't mean one single thing except you felt compelled to vote for someone based on their skin pigmentation, good job you closet hater of cultures."


No, I voted for Obama because I thought he was the better man for the job.





She's not naked. She's holding a gun...strategically.

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"It's ok. Everyone makes idiotic mistakes sometimes."


You mean like the people who voted for George W. Bush, twice?




She's not naked. She's holding a gun...strategically.

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Sammy Davis Jr. never ran for president.

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Ignorance at its finest Cjmox

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Man white people can get riled up when they talk about presidential politics, too bad this thread has de-evolved to hate speak against everything but white christ people. Ignorant idiots.

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I take it that "Give me your poor your huddled masses" is pretty much just a catch phrase in the states now?

Navaros, this film is about as rascist as bambi and your assertion otherwise is profoundly wrong, i take it that you are aware of the real armed asscociations that prowl the border looking for illegal immigrants to capture (and sometimes murder) right? You are aware of the MASSIVE anti immigration campaigns that are underway right now in the ole US of A? I'm aware of it and I live in Scotland.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12543297

Fact of the matter is that people like that exist and can be very prosperous.

Machete is a ridiculous film but it does raise awareness a serious subject.

Why quote other people when I like the sound of my own voice?

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Yes this movie is racist against white people.

They dont need to outright say anything against them, the bibe of the movie is very 'pro mexican' and portrays the evil whiteys in the typical hick/ignorant way.

You dont have to be genius to see that.

And for all the "im white but this movie doesnt offend me' crew, what is it going to take until you actually do get a sense of self preservation and pride in your own people?

your country is 10% illegal and there already coming out with these movies, cant wait till its 30% ish.


Dont be so complacent, its ignorant in itself.

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Ever wondered how the world views republicans punter?

Why quote other people when I like the sound of my own voice?

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I'm white but it didn't concern me that the aiming was at white (Americans), but the mindless killing spree.

It just didn't make any fvcking sense, I like blood, but this was just not fun to watch.

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Hey Navaros, by any chance were you paid for each time you used the phrase "racist against white people" in a single post? ;)

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