I was surprisingly impressed with the pilot. Sadly, I missed this show when it was actually airing, but I've found myself really enjoying it. I realize they supposedly changed the format when people couldn't handle the supposed "racism" (which seemed more like intelligent criticism of racism as opposed to actual racism), but it still makes me sad that we won't be seeing more.
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The show was different and interesting and probably made people think too much.
That combination is a lethal combination.
People just want to sit back and not think, unfortunately.
That's why there are too many shows like, Dancing with the Stars, Survivor, and,
American Idol.
Another reason why America is falling behind.
People just want to be entertained.
Entrainment as opposed to entertainment. :( It's truly sad.
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I really liked it as well. I think what happened was that many of the people who DID watch, just didn't get it, and the people who would have gotten it thought it would be stupid and didn't watch. It's really a shame, it was a smart, funny show.
Just a liberal, indie, oilfield wife!
http://www.unlikelyoilfieldwife.com
IT was an awful horrible (and unfunny) show and it died a well deserved death!!!
shareYour improper use of capitalization and punctuation make me think you aren't the target audience, maxtheanonymousmoose. :)
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Jesse James Fox-116 your the kind of *beep* that makes "normal people" hate education.
"I'm an egotistical, bias, angry shut-in who knows that if you do not like what I think is a clever sitcom in television entertainment then you sir are an idioit."
If maxtheanonymousmoose thinks it die a brilliant death then let them have it. For it is the internet and people shall be free to say what they wish!
And I'm sick of all my judges
so scared of what they'll find
Your grasp of the English language isn't helping your case, either. -_^
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Because I was scared away from education by the likes of you. :-D
And I'm sick of all my judges
so scared of what they'll find
One less person to compete with for a corporate law position. ;P
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I find your petty attempts at elevating yourself amusing.
Evidently you can't correct my grammar and use my bad grammar as evidence of my lower education.
Ya know what's funny, maxtheanonymousmoose is hated and ridiculed on every thread he posts on. Sad part is, he's not really a troll, just an idiot.
shareI just watch 'em on youtube as a "background" show when I'm doing stuff around the place. There's always some great Nick Hedge line that I end up hearing for the first time
sharedammitdammitdammit, I wish more people had an open mind when this show was aired... It could have TOTALLY gained traction and grew in popularity, in the same way the US "The Office" was kinda hated at first cuz it wasn't a "Britcom" style of humour, and no laugh track... look at it now! (who can disagree with this blog? http://yetanothertvreviewpodcast.blogspot.com/2007/10/cavemen.html )
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Chipping away at a mountain of pop culture trivia,
Darren Dirt.
I thought it was a great way to confront racism and ethnic stereotypes without being heavy handed. In addition it was very funny and clever but alas audiences these days have to short of an attention span. I'm still holding out for a DVD release since only a few episodes actually aired in the US.
sharefox-116, it's the internet. A grasp of proper grammar and spelling is not the only measure of intelligence. Also, when dealing with the internet; who the *beep* really cares? You sound like one of those people who spends more time talking to people on the internet than people in real life.
even great writers have editors, and they are working in a form of media that requires greater knowledge of written language than the friggin internet
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anyone who liked this cave crap should not be aloud to vote!
THAT MAN'S NUTS! GRAB'UM (ouch!)
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I thought it would be easy to say "Cavemen SUCKS!" when I decided to watch a few clips on YT.
Oops. Now I'm hooked. Another short-lived series that I managed to get into.
Yes, "too smart", too subtle in a way too -- sorta like "Boston Legal" without the self-awareness.
IMO, the pilot was just okay, it tried "too hard" perhaps. I'm glad they replaced the brother of Joel.
But if you can find the "real" episodes, on YT for instance, you will see that the series itself is SURPRISINGLY GOOD.
I mean at first you feel the racism jokes and things are gonna get old, and then you find yourself laughing at the situations. Like a guilty pleasure kind of laugh.
But in time you see that the race stuff isn't the the whole series. It's actually a smartly-written, character-driven old-style "SITUATION" comedy. The 3 main characters are well developed quickly, and a few episodes in you learn of some of their quirks (Andy's temper while driving was to me a laugh-out-loud moment) ... and the secondary characters, including Kate's mom and of course Thorne, make this a decent series that coulda had a future if only it HADN'T been a spinoff of a series of commercials, IMO.
If you remember the "glory days" of modern sitcoms, when Cheers and Night Court and even ABC shows like Perfect Strangers and, yes, even Family Matters (sorry) , then this will remind you of the quirky humour and situations you can ACTUALLY relate to. Ssorry, Seinfeld, you were Genius, no question, like Curb Your Enthusiasm, also brilliant, but both of you always have your characters in situations that a sane, emotionally-stable person would not ever get themselves in... not true for Joel, Andy, and of course the standout Nick. And everyone knows a "Ray" as a clueless co-worker at their tedious job, too bad they kinda stopped writing him in.)
PS: from http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/archive/2007/05/16/tube-thursda y-will-cavemen-bring-some-fire-to-abc-s-tuesday-night-line-up.aspx , here's a blurb that I think nicely summarizes what the show was and could have been...
"A buddy comedy that then gives viewers a unique new way to look at stereotypes. In effect comically comment on the issue of race relations by watching these three Cro Mags struggle to make their way in the modern world."
Like Arrested Development is a commentary on the cluelessness (and hidden unhappiness) of wealthy or famous families, imo.
Worth looking for online if you can't ever get the DVD series legitimately...
PPS:
omg, wow, speaking of Seinfeld (and its apparently unexpected success) and Cavemen (and it not really getting a chance to get some traction)...
http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/archive/2007/09/25/they-ll-never-put-that-on-the-air-reveals-how-to-grow-a-hit-television-series.aspx
I think that every executive at the Alphabet Network should be given a copy of "They'll Never Put That on the Air: An Oral History of Taboo-Breaking TV Comedy" (Allworth Press, February 2006). So that they can then heed the warnings of industry legends like Carl Reiner and Fred Silverman. Veterans who can perhaps persuade those working in television today that they sometimes need to look past ratings & research.
I mean, just because you have a report on your desk that reads "Pilot Performance: Weak," which is loaded with comments like "Who cares about people going to the laundromat?" and "None of the supports were particularly liked, and viewers felt that Jerry needed a better backup ensemble. George was negatively viewed as a wimp who was only mildly amusing -- viewers said he whined and did not like his relationship with Jerry ... Despite the slice-of-life approach, the program was considered only mildly realistic and believable, and many did not identify with the things with which Jerry was involved" ... doesn't mean that you should then pass on the project.
After all, if Brandon Tartikoff had done that in 1989 ... The world would have been denied "Seinfeld." A show that parlayed nothing into a ratings smash.
Somebody said:
"The show was different & made people think too. That is a lethal combination."
They should have added "in America" to the end of that 2nd sentence. In a lot of other countries, far more riskier shows are allowed on TV & do very well in those countries because their TV execs aren't as gut-less or as clue-less as U.S. TV execs are.