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'The Girl' is Infinitely better than this


Hitchcock was a dark man. This film comes off as some sort of tribute to him. Hitchcock badly mistreated his "leading ladies". This is independently collaborated by multiple sources. Hopkins is just not convincing and the bad makeup is something I can't get past.

Toby Jones nails the truly creepy, almost hideous Hitchcock in 'The Girl'. Hitchcock was an innovator for sure, but aside from 'Psycho', none of his other films were great. Films like 'Marnie' are hopelessly dated, and treat women by a standard which has been rejected many decades ago.

"For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest"

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Not really. I enjoyed this as it was a telling of the story of making Psycho rather than the narcissistic fantasies and revisions of a tepid actress. The Girl was basically a trash movie aimed at ruining Hitchcock's name and image.

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You sound like Hitchcock dismissing one of his actresses

The material in 'The Girl' has been independently corroborated, research it yourself. I never could figure out what Tipi Hedron's motive would have been to fabricate all that. She had no motive. I believe her accounts 100%, and I believe sexual harassment bordering on outright abuse was commonplace in the workplace in those days.

We're not debating Hitchcock's greatness as a director here.

"For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest"

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It has also been denied by quite a few people. We know for sure that some of what The Girl depicts is not true, and as for some of her other accounts, we obviously don't know. And I, for one, don't believe anybody's accounts 100%. I think everybody's story is probably some version of the truth. He motive to lie about it is probably would be that if some less extreme version of these event did take place, she would either believe it to be more extreme than it actually was in her memory, or perhaps what did transpire may have been less extreme but still caused her to hate him with extreme vitriol and she still holds that contempt and wants to assassinate his character to this day. I know she was under contract, but Hedren of course worked with Hitchcock again in Marnie.

Because that's what The Girl was. Nothing but a character assassination. Whether it's true or not, I didn't find much particular interest in that movie. In Hitchcock, as opposed to The Girl, the viewer isn't expected to believe that everything seen is true. Nobody thinks that Alfred Hitchcock had conversations with the ghost of Ed Gein for example. This is a movie that is a fun look at what is obviously known of the Alfred Hitchcock persona, whereas The Girl claims to be some sort of expose on what 'really' happened on the set of The Birds. The results, for me, are two moderately interesting movies of about the same quality, that are both entirely incomplete looks at a famous and important figure. I give a very slight edge to this movie, however, because it doesn't claim to be something it couldn't ever possibly, actually be.

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i wish Hitchcock had been the TV movie and The Girl got the theatrical release

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Hitch often worked with the same actresses repeatedly. I doubt he routinely treated them that badly. Grace Kelly was a pretty big star. She didn't NEED to work with Hitchcock.

The movie did show Hitchcock flying off the handle during the shower scene and spying on a female actress through a peephole, so I don't think the movie ignored that he had a creepy side.

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I enjoyed both films, but I had a harder time believing "Hitchcock". The reason being, is for most of the film he's in his own thoughts, by himself, hallucinating, or talking with Alma....So unless we have some accounts from Alma, how do we know any of this is true?!

I'm sure the basic facts are true, like putting a mortgage on their house to finance the film, but the rest of the dialogue and hallucinations and everything else I wonder how the filmmakers could possibly know what went on. Did Hitch really stand outside the theater to peek in and see how the audience would react to the shower scene, then dance around like a conductor when he heard the audience screams paired with the music? I mean, that's something they could know, but one of many things I wondered if was actually true. I know that example is a small, trivial one, but still, the truth means so much more to me when I watch stuff like this about real people.

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Good point, obviously both films take liberties when it comes to wild speculation. I think 'The Girl' does less. It sort of shows Hitchcock as others see him rather than trying to get into his mind. This is one of the reasons I think its a better film.

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Once the OP actually managed to write the following ignorant tripe...

"...aside from Psycho, none of his other films were great."

...I realized it was just the asinine ramblings of an idiot.

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chas437, congratulations! You have written the most idiotic message on all of IMDB! An incredible feat, to say the least!

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Quite the opposite.

The Girl was an awful, sensationalist, TV movie.

Toby Jones nails nothing. He caricatures one aspect of the man Hitchcock was. Reduces this great artist to a pathetic, drooling slug.

but aside from 'Psycho', none of his other films were great


850 critics and 350 directors think you are a moron:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sight_&_Sound_Top_50_Greatest_Films_of_All_Time

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Psycho is not even my favorite. What about movies like Dial M For Murder, Rope and The Birds? Hell, even Family Plot is not bad at all.

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I saw both films last week, Hitchcock and The Girl. They both were excellent and I enjoyed going back in time to the films that were sensational at the time, like Psycho, and The Birds.

Everything that the films touched on, the making of both films, his relationships with both actresses were very enlightening into the character of Hitchcock. He certainly was a very complicated man. What I got from the films was that he was troubled, insecure which made him demanding and evil in many ways. His techniques of getting what he wanted from the actresses in the films bordered on severe abuse. I don't think that would be tolerated today. Tippi Hedren went along with his abuse. Why?

And why on earth did his wife stay with him?????

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