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Did anyone else wish that Mary Smith ended up with...


...Dr Harrison? Or Dr Marshland? Or just somebody?

I thought she was a lovely character, and when I think that, generally I like to pair them up with somebody. I thought in the first two episodes, there seemed to be some kind of chemistry between Mary and Harrison.

And IMO there definitely was some attraction between her and Dr Marshland. But in the end all we get are the boring couples of Harrison and Sophy, Mrs Rose and Dr Morgan and Caroline Tomkinson and the butcher (WTF???).

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I will not be at all surprised if Miss Mary Smith and Dr Jack Marshland are united in this year's Christmas special.

If you don't know what they're saying, turn on the subtitles.

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That's what I thought too. A Christmas wedding as a finale to the next episodes. I wonder who'll die, though? Someone seems to in every episode.

I lost my job
What? Why?... Not the Phantom Menace?

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Well, since the show will be on at Christmas and only 2 hours long, maybe everyone lives.

If you don't know what they're saying, turn on the subtitles.

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Yeah, she was a sweety.
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this year christmas meaning in december

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Are you on drugs, daze? Did you wander in here by accident?
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Count me among those who resented that several interesting relationships were, to say the least, left on the back burner or nipped in the bud, to mix metaphors in a really awful way.

SPOILER ALERT

It's entirely in keeping with Gaskell's actual plot that Frank and Sophy should wind up together, though the casting/script in Cranford kind of laid on the convention a little thick -- i.e., handsome blond couple going off together at the end, as though it were all a fairy tale.

But I had been rooting for Miss Matty and Mr. Holbrook, and we all know how that ended. And somehow worse, look what they did to poor Mr. Carter just when he and Miss Galindo were starting to get along!

I did, however, like the implication that Mrs. Rose was about to be snapped up by the more age-appropriate Dr. Morgan, who at least had the decency to appreciate her makeover (Eat your hearts out, Stacy and Clinton!).

Jack Marshland and Mary Smith ought to have been a couple as well, and Jack's got a decided gleam in his eye by the end of the series, even if Mary had earlier proved resistant to her stepmother's attempts to marry her off. But what really seals the deal for me is Mary's reading the Riot Act to Jack over his prank on poor Frank. She's definitely more attracted to "that Irishman" than she's letting on.

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I actually sort of liked the open-endedness of things. One of my favourite things about the series was that it was actually far more realistic than most Victorian-era stories; i.e. things happened somewhat randomly as they would in life, even when the plot seemed to be leading elsewhere (like Miss Deborah dying in only the second episode, or Mr. Harrison failing to save little Walter's life, or Mr. Carter chuffing it before he could romance Miss Galindo--which totally killed me, too). And I appreciated that Mary was so unlike your usual heroine who needs be married off by the end in order for her story to be complete (Sophy Hutton basically filled that role).

All that said, of course, I do totally want her to get it on with Dr. Marshland at Christmas. I am a romantic at heart ;)

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Now that I've read a bit of Elizabeth Gaskell and seen episode one of the 2009 sequel to the 2007 series, I can see a bit where they followed her stories to the letter (e.g., regarding the fates of Mr. Holbrook and young Walter Hutton), where they've departed from them (BIG changes in the story lines for both Lady Ludlow and Captain Brown), and which they've excluded entirely.

Complicating things is this business of having to blend three books, Cranford, My Lady Ludlow, and Mr. Harrison's Confessions. Some characters have been renamed, some blended, and some reworked.

Bringing us back to Miss Mary Smith and Dr. Jack Marshland, I can report that the former is a combination of the Mary character in Cranford and Jemima Bullock in Mr. Harrison's Confessions, and that the script includes some things, leaves out others, and embellishes a few more. But you'll have to read the books to find out what Gaskell wanted you to know -- and not a bit more!

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I'd hoped that Mary would end up with Dr Marshland, but I read somewhere that he won't be in the Cristmas special. They had very good chemistry, and the way she was so angry and disappointed in him when she found out about his involvement on Dr Harrison's misfortune is certainly very telling of her feelings for him.

I was so sad when Mr Carter died. I really thought he would get together with Miss Galindo but, alas, it was not to be.

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I didn't care if they married off Mary to Dr Marshland or not, and I was quite happy with the ending in 2007.

I was just disappointed that there was no mention of him in 2009. He and Mary had great chemistry and I would liked to see him back or at least mentioned as a friend.

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Wow... have you ever read the novella Cranford??

I know the BBC production didn't really keep to the original storyline... and that it incorporated storylines from other novels... but still... I would have been thoroughly disappointed if Mary was married off at the end...

The ability to thrive without depending on men was the underlying theme of Gaskell's novella... To marry her off would have undermined this proposition.

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She was still dependent on a man though - her father.

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I'm sorta glad she didn't get paired off with Dr Marshland. He came off as bit of play boy and I'd want more for her then that.

Besides she seems to really not want to be married. She seems like she doesn't need a man to be happy. She loves the freedom of not being tied down to a man's rule. As she said 'men don't need you to talk, only that you listen'. It's not a role I can see her happily playing. And being in Cranford where so many women get along fine without men would only make her view point more valid. I think it'd have to be a very special man for her. One who would let her be free to be instead of the 'little wifey' role women had in that time. She said she doesn't have the desire to start a family - for babies either. Maybe in some years she want to get married and I'm sure she'd have no trouble attracting a man. Or maybe she'd be happy on her own. If she never married by choice I won't be unhappy.

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I actually thought that her and Dr. Harrison were supposed to get together and Sophie was just going to be a distraction/obstacle in their way. I have not read the books so obviously I didn't know what was meant to happen between them. I thought the chemistry between Mary and Dr. Harrison was much more intense than with him and Sophie. I got to the end of the series and realized it was not meant to be. I would have loved for them to get together though.

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Yeah, I was shipping them too. Sophie was too boring.

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