how could this get made? - Baby Blues (2008) Discussion

[–] Zombieaddicted 16 years ago

Go back to your closed minded hole you live in. This kind of stuff does happen and to make a film about it to let people know does more good than harm. When the last time you seen a serial killer say they became one because of the films they watched ? Never.

I rather know the truth than be protected from it.

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[–] osobucoboy 16 years ago

this happens,other films aren't as explotative with children as this one, showing you how the little girl pees herself while she watches how her mother kills her brother.is that nice?do i live in a close minded hole because i think that's wrong?
you can't tell me you are taking this movie seriously or as a accurate study of post-partum depression, because that would be ludricous.this is just a b-rate slasher for people with gore thirst, and what happens to make it more perverted is the fact that it features children and a baby as victims.
and please read the news, just in the new issue of esquire there's a feature on a youngster that killed his classmates, he had the psycho from saw tatooed on himself.Though this is beyond the point and just to answer you.
all i am saying is that i think it's disgusting that children are getting killed in these sort of movies to give those who are addicted to slasher movies a thrill.

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[–] Zombieaddicted 16 years ago

Then I guess the film Who Can Kill a Child is just as wrong huh ? Tons of kids get killed in that film. I guess the film Assault on Precinct 13 (1974) as well is so wrong too. A girl gets shot in the head in that film. What is this taboo you have that children can't die in films ? Heck you would never be able to handle the deaths in the film In a Glass Cage. Those are pretty difficult to watch. My point being is there all just a movie what is the big deal ? Directors limit themselves when all they can kill is adults. In the real world no one is safe. It is all a illusion.

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[–] osobucoboy 16 years ago

according to imdb both of those movies are banned. you know what i mean is how explotative the nature and atmosphere of the film is.
I just did a paper on funny games , and it's weird that a lot of people feel some sort of release upon seeing violence on screen.also these aren't just films but these are builders of reality, once something stops being taboo and starts making it's way towards mass media , where it becomes acceptable.
Both those movies you mentioned are Spanish, and both are banned in a bunch of countries according to imdb.
also i just searched youtube, and the children on "who would kill a child?" are ten years old or older. not four year olds or babies who are being killed by their own mother.

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[–] stevemcgregor133 16 years ago

So essentially, what you are saying is, films that make some kind of commentary on realistic subjects should never be made. Will it be alright for people to write about these subjects, or will these be censored also? Perhaps we shouldn't even talk about these subjects. In fact let's all watch films made by Disney.

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[–] osobucoboy 16 years ago

i think films about every subject should be made.but once they turn expoltative and just for shock value, they should not.this film is bloddy it's not like you are going to think about what the film shows.not at all.it's just made for gore and for thrills,nothing else, so don't tell me this a deep movie about post partum depression because it's not.

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[–] stevemcgregor133 16 years ago

How do you know what I'm going to think? I don't think I mentioned it being a deep movie, or did I? Nope, read my post no mention of depth. Perhaps if everyone thought like you, no films on any taboo subject would ever be made. Spanking The Monkey, The Idiots, Gummo, Bad Boy Bubby etc. We would all just stay within our comfort zones and be spoonfed trite family movies. Would that be better? Sometimes it is good to be made to feel uncomfortable, let's you know you are alive and have feelings. Stick to watching the Hallmark channel perhaps, lest you be offended.

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[–] osobucoboy 16 years ago

yeah but saying "films about this and that need to get made, this happens and blah blah " what you are pretty much saying the movie has a statement to make, and it doesn't , HUGE FAIL.
let you know you have feelings???? why don't i cut myself to feel the pain to know i'm alive ,puh-leeze!!

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[–] skeet900 16 years ago

The last time i checked this was a free country, and unless they are actually killing the children in these films then that should answer your question. Obviously your tastes aren't the taste of everyone. I just wonder why you went to or rented this in the first place. You also said that you didn't watch the entire movie so how would you know if it has a statement to make or not??? Next time maybe you should stick to romatic comedies (which are offensive to me, so i dont waltch them) so you can see how happy and wonderful rea life is. Oh and by the way, anyone who says they do anything because a movie or music was sick to begin with. Open your mind or dont watch horror/thriller films...

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[–] jmorri26 16 years ago

I agree with everyone else- the cover alone for this movie is pretty damn creepy and they do have a synopsis on the back cover. You knew what you were getting with this film. It says its about a mother who kills her children.

There's always people who's tastes a movie doesn't fit, and thats fine. But this movie isn't exactly in the children's section of your local blockbuster.

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[–] gamer3000 16 years ago

My synopsis didn;t say anything on what it was about. It was both shocking/hilarious once we made the discovery.

Not many people have basements in California.

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[–] Phroggy 13 years ago

To skeep900 : yes, I do thing too that romantic comedies are offensive. Those "chick flicks" are the most sexist there is, because the message is always the same : having a career and a life = bad. Marrying and raising rug rats like a good 'un = good.

Some people can't admit that sometimes, women kill, including children. Only those icky men can do it. Which is sexist as well. But it's confortable.

While we are talking, how many children are killed in unnecessary wars around the globe to the benefits of people very comfy in their bubble. But it's okay. We don't talk about this thing. Bring on "reality" TV. Reeding iz for fagz. Idiocracy rulz lolz.

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[–] stevemcgregor133 16 years ago

I think you may be misinterpreting my reply son, I'm actually talking about censorship. There was no mention of self-harming made, but if you wish to cut yourself make sure it's downwards and not across. Of course that depends on which artery you wish to open :-)

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[–] Unspeakable 16 years ago

Everyone's anonymous and 'brutally honest' online, yes?
Well how about we remember our humanity, and maturity levels, by NOT suggesting that someone open any of their arteries --for any reason.
Let's especially not suggest this to someone younger than yourself.

Point is, people have different opinons about things.
Just because you don't agree doesn't make it any less valid.
Let's ditch this role of 'internet tough guy' and remember that, shall we?

Love and kisses,

Unspeakable

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[–] saskia-sch 16 years ago

why should I feel uncomfortable sometimes? Why would that be good????? explain explain....

Since november last year, I have been very uncomfortable, my life and the lives of my family has been pretty uncomfortable, and believe me ITS NOT GOOD!!!! I have very high bloodpressure now, is that good??? thanks to the uncomfortable feeling I have been told. I worry too much.

So its good to feel uncomfortable sometimes, give people a trauma by watching horrible killings or seeing kids getting traumatised???? Im sorry, but that is a load of bull. I think your a house doctor, arent you? Hoping many people will watch it, getting high bloodpressures and youre making tons by the minute.

Im sorry, its bull that people should feel uncomfortable sometimes.

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[–] chiseckm 15 years ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharsis

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[–] maximumxxx 12 years ago

If this was just for shock value I'm sure the childrens deaths would have been more detailed and more brutal on screen, I thought they handled a sensitive subject very well with this movie.

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[–] saskia-sch 16 years ago

I havent seen this film, so I cant have an oppinion on this film, alltough with what I have read so far, I wont watch it. Not my kind of thing, I rather see kids live.

But I think what he tried to say before is that he cannot understand that parents of the Child-actors are being lend to do these kinds of films. Now afcourse the children can be fantastic actors and cry on demand. But I have been told that sometimes they use scary stories to make the child cry in front of the camera. Afcourse the kid is not really seeing someone getting killed, I dont think they would use those kinds of methods lol.

But I do understand that the methods they do use can be a little too much for a youngster sometimes. Plus I dont think the kids are allowed to see the movie there in themselves untill there about 18 or something. And I do hope they wont show any of the material before that age.

The kid probably was not peeying for real, must be fake.

Well one thing is for sure, Im not gonna watch, I really didnt like the girl nextdoor, I was shocked by what I had seen there, and didnt watch it till the end. So that was a good warning not to watch this one either.

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[–] BitterMan23 16 years ago

HEY! YOU'RE SO WRONG!!!!

Assault came out in 1976, not 74.

:)

http://www.horrormovieaday.com

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[–] chuxsux 16 years ago

What in the eff is 'explotative'?

"Sometimes you just have to piss in the sink." - C. Bukowski

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[–] lil_lost_one 12 years ago

imahavah wrote:
One in Texas killed FIVE of her other children

From what I gather, the case in which you speak is what this movie is (very loosely) based on.

River: Don't worry, I'm quite the screamer. Now there's a spoiler for you!

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[–] B-MovieDork 15 years ago

so let me get this straight... you're saying that Post-Partum depression has never caused a mother to murder her children?

AND - if you don't like it, don't watch it. It's as simple as that. Don't judge the people who aren't too emotionally repressed to actually get it, because you only come off as a pompous jerk.

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[–] Evil_Doll 8 years ago

You nailed it! Pisses me off when people don't like these movies and feel the need to whine about what they clearly don't understand. I dealt with postpartum depression, and I was borderline postpartum phsychotic. Not because I wanted to be, hell I spent more time crying because I didn't want to hurt my baby but kept feeling the massive urge to. Never did, but because of my experience, I know how easily it can happen... This movie depicts that perfectly.

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[–] little_joost 13 years ago

I agree with Zombieaddicted.

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[–] biskvito 16 years ago

I share some OP's feelings. Nowadays we have to use more and more our criticism, in order to get out of the "flow". If you just go on taking everything you end up depressed, or insensitive. I believe what we see or read do influence us, not in the sense of mimicking, but something always glues to you.

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[–] moviemaiden08 16 years ago

You need to stick to care bear movies. This film is too much reality 4 you. This stuff goes on everyday. Just because you wanna live in candy land, that doesnt mean the rest of the world does. Im A REALIST, so stick to G movies, so your not offended. I wasnt entertained by this movie, it was emotional, and I commend the director for making this movie, people need to see this film, this crap happens. Your right children being killed by their mother is filth, but should society ignore it? Is that what you want, cover your eyes and live in la la land, regardless this crap goes on, and it doesnt happen because of a movie.Sheesh!

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[–] EazySCT 16 years ago

nah they should make a movie about a tragedy and make money off the suffering of others *rolleyes*

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[–] hbmonjaras 16 years ago

Osobucoboy,
I watched up until the dead baby in the bed, and I made my husband turn it off. It is a disgusting movie and, unfortunately, too true to reality. I rent movies to be entertained, not disgusted and horrified. I am not entertained by news reports about mothers drowning their children. Why would I be entertained by a movie about such a thing? Does it tell a story? Or is it just trying to "make people aware" of what goes on? Becuase I can be made aware of wahts going on by turning on the news without shock value or being disgusted. It is a controversial film and I can see there are lots of opinions about the movie. Being a mother of young children, it was too disturbing for me to watch. First impressions are lasting.
And the synopsis on the back was awful, not mentioning the crude violence that was sure to ensue.
Now, having said that, if any of you people on the other side of the fence will read the post past the beginning, everyone is entitled to their own opinion of the movie. I didn't watch the whole thing and I have no idea how it ends, so all I can say is thatm from what I saw, I didn't want to see or know more. I enjoy a different kind of movie than you all who enjoyed it - no better or worse than this genre, just different.

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[–] debski2222 16 years ago

great film!

*beep* like this goes on and its terrible

but i thought the movie was good,it explains, well, just a little bit, how the mind can turn and make people do stuff like this

it did make me flinch when some of the stuff happened, and to make it worse its based on true events

on the other hand, i watched it earlier,went to bed,had a nightmare about it, so now im up typing this
and im in my 40's!
so dont let your kids watch it

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[–] pleistocene 16 years ago

This film was far more terrifying than most so-called 'horror' films which feature the usual nauseating spoilt brat teenagers who you can't wait to see butchered in comic-book style inventive fashions. At least I cared about what happened to the victims in this film....

"People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own soul" - C.G.Jung

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[–] shred-com 16 years ago

Alright I am fine with it being made, tons of disturbing horror out there, people who think this was crossing the line needs to look in the genre more and shut it. But the movie was not very good, no plot, overacting and a horrible end. There was hoping it would be great to.

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[–] littlebeastie 14 years ago

"This film was far more terrifying than most so-called 'horror' films which feature the usual nauseating spoilt brat teenagers who you can't wait to see butchered in comic-book style inventive fashions. At least I cared about what happened to the victims in this film"

I couldn't have said it better myself!

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[–] cuzndwyne-1 15 years ago

What is really offensive is that IMDB recommends that if you liked this flick, check out Timecop....Timecop.

It is about each to they're own and people have opinions no matter what. The only people who are right here are those who can respect that this flick is not for everyone but it is for someone.
I happen to be one of those someone's I loved this movie. I loved it because its got a rise out of me. I have never seen anyone take the chances with film that this movie maker took. The fact that it was done based on things that can and DO happen in this world make it more appropriate. Its not some ghost or monster eating kids on screen. It is actually another person who has fallen completely crazy. Is possible and does happen.
For anyone who thinks mothers can't do this to they're kids..what about the woman who locked her kids in her car and pushed them into the river? Then later blamed it on a black guy. Susan something I fail to remember her last name but those who know, know what I am talking about.
Its not for everyone but that does not mean it should be banned. Those concerned about the child actors. Please. If they end up twisted, it will not be because of this flick. How many Child actors went twisted that weren't in horror movies?
Also if you watch the director was cautious in how each child was handled. You do not actually see the children getting killed. Watch the movie carefully and you will understand what I mean.

Anyway. I rule all of you.

Love,
Me

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[–] superman_202 16 years ago

ok im 23 male, and horror is all i watch. scarier = the better. i did not expect this to be what it was. the whole mother killing her children thing is actually a weird like personal issue for me. ive had dreams since i was a kid about my mom killing me.....i know weird. but seeing this like really brought the memories of those dreams back. thats y i didnt like this film. and also id like to add that just because something happens in real life doesnt mean it needs to be glorified on the big screen. yes i know these things happen. but like someone else said i could just turn on the news and see this. i dont understand the reasoning behind people saying....."these things happen and people need to see them" why? im all for realism and i agree that the world is not perfect, i dont really understand why anyone would WANT to see this. i guess thats all, like why would you want to see children killed by their crazed mother?

also why is it good to feel uncomfortable? theres a difference to being uncomfortable and to being scared/grossed out. i LOVE being scared and grossed out. its awesome. i dont really think the director meant for this to like traumatize people or anything but they had to know what it would do to a good percentage of its viewers. especially mothers.

the way the movie sets it up i almost thought the scarecrow was gonna be the killer lol.

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[–] Zombieaddicted 16 years ago

Well some important reasons is so we confront our fears and learn to discuss these issues. The more we discuss issues like these the more of the chance of finding a solution and understanding why some people do this. Who knows maybe one day we will be able to predict who will do it right before hand so we can save both the victim's and offender's life.