Note to the director


Next time, hire a professional camera man. You destroyed your own film with that horrible attempt at cinematography. There's no point in telling a good story if you're going to frame it like a 5 year old's home movie.


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Do I sense some jealousy?

I thought the cinematography was excellent!

Almost the entire film was hand-held.

You won't find better hand-held camera work or a better $50,000 drama.

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No, I'm not jealous of cinematography that's the equivalent of an epileptic five year old's first home movie.

The whole film was handheld? What a shocking revelation. I thought they just had a broken tripod or a cameraman with Parkinson's disease. (sarcasm)

Budget has nothing to do with framing scenes properly and holding the camera steady. Thankskilling (budget of $3,500) and The Taint (budget of $2,000) both have superior cinematography. Nice try.

If you thought it was excellent, then you know absolutely nothing about cinematography.


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No, I'm not jealous of cinematography that's the equivalent of an epileptic five year old's first home movie.

You are jealous. Did "Owl" beat your film out at some festival and now you feel you have no future?


The whole film was handheld? What a shocking revelation. I thought they just had a broken tripod or a cameraman with Parkinson's disease. (sarcasm)

The camera work in "Owl" was as steady as handheld camerawork gets. Each shot framed flawlessly.


Budget has nothing to do with framing scenes properly and holding the camera steady. Thankskilling (budget of $3,500) and The Taint (budget of $2,000) both have superior cinematography. Nice try.

Yours is merely an opinion, but lacks credibility since 'Owl" is the more highly regarded film. The camera work was intended to be gritty and a reflection of the chaotic street life in HCMC. Yet each shot is framed to perfection. Name one shot that isn't. What the director pulled off here could not be surpassed by the best of Hollywood using the same equipment under similar circumstances.


If you thought it was excellent, then you know absolutely nothing about cinematography.

When an opinion is unsupported by evidence, there's usually an agenda behind it. Case in point here.

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"You are jealous. Did "Owl" beat your film out at some festival and now you feel you have no future?"


I've already stated I'm not jealous. Continuing to insist that I am is not debating. It's what a child would do. Time to grow up.

You've assumed I'm a film maker based on absolutely nothing. You probably also think anyone who is not a film maker is somehow disqualified from commenting.


"The camera work in "Owl" was as steady as handheld camerawork gets. Each shot framed flawlessly"


Just a flat out lie that proves you have seen few films and no nothing about cinematography. Here are just a few comments from Netflix that back up what I say. Feel free to verify them as anyone reading this can easily do.


"Had a difficult time watching this because of the "jerky camera" filming technique. My wife and I both got queasy. It may have been a good movie. But we could not get past the camera work. Please warn your viewers about movies like this. It is a waste of our time to rent them. Thanks.

"The only issue I really had with this movie is that the whole time the camera is bouncing all over the place and zoomed up into the faces of the cast for 50% of the movie. Several times I had to stop the movie, get up, look around, and then 10 min later sit back down again because I started to feel a sort of car-sick feel from watching"

"I would like to have given this a better review but the cameras jumpiness made the film difficult to watch (hard on the eyes). Its as if you're watching someones home movie"

"The photography at times is too jumpy for my taste..."

"Please stop making movies with hand held cams! I would've watched more than 15 mins of this movie if the camera doesn't make me hurl"

"My only reservation is due to the effects of the hand-held camera work, particularly in the earlier sequences, which to often gives a jumpy and unsteady image that can be tiring for the viewer"

"I watch for about 10 minutes only. it may be a good movie story but I got a headache watching this. The camera is very shaky and it too closed to the face. This is not the kind of movie I want to see"

"My only critique would be to fix that motion-sickness you get from the cameras"

"This movie is great, but the videography is making me seasick. Cant they sprinkle in a few steady camera shots? Too bad, the film is quite enjoyable otherwise"


All a big conspiracy, right?


"Yours is merely an opinion, but lacks credibility since 'Owl" is the more highly regarded film. The camera work was intended to be gritty and a reflection of the chaotic street life in HCMC. Yet each shot is framed to perfection. Name one shot that isn't. What the director pulled off here could not be surpassed by the best of Hollywood using the same equipment under similar circumstances"

You have not stated WHY my opinion lacks credibility and in fact could never do so. Shaky camera does not make a film "gritty". That's rubbish. As far as each shot being framed to perfection, see the above comments. I'm not going to start debating each individual scene with you.


"When an opinion is unsupported by evidence, there's usually an agenda behind it. Case in point here"


This isn't a trial. I don't need to provide "evidence". I watched the film. The camera work sucks. End of story. I have no agenda and do not benefit whatsoever from having this debate with you. In fact, your debating skills are so poor that it's all been just a big waste of time.


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"Continue dying"

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You have not stated WHY my opinion lacks credibility and in fact could never do so. Shaky camera does not make a film "gritty". That's rubbish. As far as each shot being framed to perfection, see the above comments. I'm not going to start debating each individual scene with you.

The entire film was shot hand-held. Let's see you provide an example of another film shot entirely using the same technique, only doing it better. Just one example. You can't. Gauger's achievement here is remarkable.

This isn't a trial. I don't need to provide "evidence".

Yes, you do. Otherwise your opinion is just that. An opinion. Unsupported by reality.

I watched the film. The camera work sucks. End of story. I have no agenda and do not benefit whatsoever from having this debate with you. In fact, your debating skills are so poor that it's all been just a big waste of time.

Clueless, you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the art of filmmaking. I asked you to provide another example of a film shot entirely using a hand-held camera, only doing it better. You've not only failed to provide that one example, you've failed miserably. Get lost, simpleton.

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Were you the cameraman or something? Are you, like, married to this movie?

The people, and the people alone, are the motive force in the making of history.
-Mao Zedong

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No. Just a big fan of it.

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What the f-ck is it with people who can't FATHOM the possibility that maybe, just maybe, someone might have a genuine criticism of a movie or anything else without being "jealous"? Are you saying the filmmakers are infallible, can do nothing wrong? Do you honestly think any movie you like is literally perfect without a single shortcoming, and that anyone who doesn't feel that way must just be "jealous"? Are you "jealous" of everything in the world you don't like? If you don't like a certain food, are you just jealous of the cook?

Yes, the movie was good. The camerawork was also horrible. Both things CAN be possible at the same time.

The people, and the people alone, are the motive force in the making of history.
-Mao Zedong

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The entire movie was filmed using a single hand-held camera. Show me another movie that was filmed using a single hand-held camera from start to finish. This movie was shot surprisingly well. Considering the technique and the $60,000 budget, an amazing accomplishment and certainly better than a number of first films that launched the careers of some big name directors.

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