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This Movie is Fantastic


A triumph! Films like this deserve to be seen. Go.

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Wait a second. Hold the phone. Stop the presses. Please provide reasoning or support for your use of "triumph" and "go".

Yeah, I felt that this one deserved to be seen, but I was sorely disappointed that it so ineffectively delivered on what sounded like a great premise. Unfortunately this one didn't hit high gear by any means. Really just the same situations or scenarios over and over that were stale after the first 20 minutes. There were so many places to go and backstory to give with this great character.....but really nothing went anywhere.

I didn't care about budget or special effects or locations, but the main character coulda shouldered this one and carried it to greatness. Didn't happen though.

Mumblecore or whatever aside, it just looked like some New York punk-hypster movie about being on the outs but not being able to put any zest into it. No redemption or personal apocalypse or anything......

I'd rather watch Welcome to the Dollhouse for a much more realized view from the fringe.

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You said "Yeah, I felt that this one deserved to be seen," and so there is the reasoning for the first poster's use of the word "go." You flatly agree with it.

Can't say you're wrong about the rest of your thoughts, but you are wrong about labeling this a mumblecore movie. Mumblecore this aint. I loathe the mumblecore movement, which I find completely lame, without merit and beyond annoying. FROWNLAND is more akin to the kind of early stuff filmmakers like George Romero, Jon Jost, and Mike Leigh were churning out. To see what I mean, check out "Martin," "Last Chants for a Slow Dance," and "Nuts in May." Most of your criticisms would be the same for these great works, too.

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Jon Jost, yes!!!

Frownland was amazing... definitely Jost like.

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pre·ten·tious: characterized by assumption of dignity or importance.

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Love NUTS IN MAY! I will have to check those others out.

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I would've enjoyed the film more if I knew someone in real life that's as pathetic as the main character.

I know what they were going for but I would've liked to have seen them make him less despicable. Either that or flesh out his story more to give the audience the chance to understand him. Maybe not another shrink scene(which I found out of place, a person like that probably wouldn't have the means to see a psychiatrist) but something else.

I really felt the movie was starting to go somewhere near the middle when he has his two arguments with his flatmate. The first was great because a character on screen finally said the things I wanted to say(well, I'd probably be less harsh). And the second one to see what a manipulative loser his flatmate really is, psychologically bullying Keith in a form of diverting his anger at his own pathetic situation and being bullied by the other LSAT writer.

But then that scene happened with Keith going crazy on Sandy for absolutely no reason. I found that to be inconsistent with his character. It seemed to flip-flop between "mentally sound but hopelessly awkward and charmless loser" to "mentally handicapped person".

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I liked this film quite a bit. And what I liked about was it had the guts to be about a despicable, pathetic character.

He is sleazy in all the right ways. I found him a blast to watch. Then again, I know guys like this in real life. A lot of them.

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