British novel but American faces


Frances Dormand (Miss Pettigrew), Amy Adams (Delysia) and Lee Pace (Michael) are all American in this film based on a British novel. am i missing something here?

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If it will make you feel better, The Dark Knight (about an American super hero) starred Christian Bale, Gary Oldman, Michael Caine, Heath Ledger and Cillian Murphy. I'll grant you, Heath was Australian not British and Cillian's role in this movie was pretty minimal, but the others should assuage your annoyance.

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how do u know batman is american? where's gotham city?

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Stupid response.

But if you really want to know, he's an American creation and Gotham city is New York, that's how I know. In the beginning of his creation Batman lived in Manhattan.

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oh i see. and i suppose u think really highly of yourself for being such a teeny bopper so up to speed with all things pop culture that u would instantly classify my question as a stupid response rather than patiently explain yourself.

i'm not even sure why i'm replying to u. and for the record, i could ask u for some proof of your knowledge of batman but i guess i shall not pursue the matter since it will only be brushed aside as a stupid response.

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Well I'm 27 so I doubt I count as a teeny bopper. Also, since Batman has been around since the 1940s (and has been an American that entire time) I don't know that he quite counts as "teeny bopper pop culture" considering he has fans who participated in World War II. For sources that will prove me right, check out any Batman comic, Batman books, or just plain old wikipedia. Hell, google him. It's *such* common knowledge that it won't be hard for you to find the truth. You could also just plain watch the Batman films, especially "Batman Begins" where his history (including his family's role helping slaves escape during the *American* civil war) is detailed.

The reason I was annoyed with your response is that Batman's nationality is common knowledge, and that wasn't the point of my post. You were complaining about Americans playing Brits, and you were right; that happens a lot. I was trying to console you by pointing out that this switching around of nationalities is a very COMMON Hollywood practice. They have Canadians, British, even Spaniards playing Americans, and vice versa. As long as the actor can fake the accent (and not even necessarily believably, lol) Hollywood doesn't care.

If you're angry that I didn't "patiently" explain myself, then you shouldn't have tried picking a fight with me to begin with. I was attempting to be helpful, and you were being petulant. That kind of attitude isn't exactly geared to stir feelings of sympathy and kindness in people.

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i was petulent? i picked a fight? all i did was ask where gotham city was and the very first thing i got back was "stupid response". did u read my reply as hostile or maybe u just needed me to drop a few emoticons or whatever u call those intenet smile faces to make sure that u would take my question as genuine. obviously u have anger issues if u can get worked up over a simple question. yes maybe i ought to have just run a search about batman over the internet rather than humbly post to ask u to explain. cos that would have saved me from reading your entire essay post about how it is MY fault that u think that i was trying to pick a fight with u. god!






goodbye.

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Again, I was merely trying to express sympathy toward your complaint, you write back challenging my information. *I* have anger issues? You're the one who keeps writing angry retorts....

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I'm sorry, but as a complete stranger chancing upon this thread, I must say that you came off as sarcastic and petulant when you questioned where Batman was from.

Your response to a perfectly reasonable post sounded quite like an attitude.

And it was also pretty unnecessary to start flinging supposed insults (teenybopper, etc) simply due to your own ignorance of 70 year old "current pop culture".

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Preach! I know I am 8 years late to this post but you are very clear and was only being helpful, not argumentative. I for one appreciate your candor.

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Stupid response.
Correct.

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Batman's Gotham City and Superman's Metropolis are both New York City. Not a well kept secret.

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thank you klorentz. i don't keep up with modern culture let alone comic book characters much so i'm not familiar with them. all i know about batman is that he's bruce wane and lives in gotham city.

cheers!

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You're welcome. I'm not a kid (52); I don't read comics. But certain things are just common knowledge here in the US.

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i guess pretty much! and don't worry i never said or hinted that u were a kid. have a good one!

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And let us not forget those great American characters Scarlett O'Hara and Ashley Wilkes, the former admirably played by Vivien Leigh and the latter horribly played by Leslie Howard. Neither was from the American South . . . or even southern England, for that matter.

An "actor" by definition plays a role. There should be no requirement that he/she pass some sort of proof of ancestry or nationality to fill that role.

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Leslie Howard was born in London and went to school there. Definitely from southern England.
Vivien Leigh was born in India.

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Cillian Murphy is Irish not British.

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Has my point therefore become invalid?

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@susico

When what you say is untrue then yes, your point does become invalid!

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Well, my point was that non-American actors often play American roles. Since Cillian Murphy is still non-American (even if I was wrong about what his nationality is) my point is actually still very valid. What I said was untrue, my point was not.

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They also pointed out that Ledger was Australian to show that many non Americans play Americans, therefore their point still stands.

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Not to mention Henry Cavill as Superman, who, though alien, was raised in Kansas and fights a never ending battle for truth, justice and the American way.

Re Michael Caine in Batman, that's alright because Alfred is English.

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I thought it was slightly odd, but everyone did such a great job, who cares?

Tomorrow's just your future yesterday!

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I think it worked that Delysia was an American. Frances McDormand and Lee Pace are clearly attempting English accents (with varying success!)

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I think that we're lucky to have the atmosphere of pre-war London remaining intact. The producers could very well have set it in modern times in Los Angeles. Ughhhhhhhhhh! With Ashton Kutcher or some such. Ughhhhhhhh! I shudder to think how they could have completely botched it.

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Wasn't Michael (Lee Pace's character) supposed to be Delysia's childhood friend, and therefore an American as well? I didn't read the book, so I'm not sure about it but I just had the feeling that Michael's accent was over exaggerated to indicate that he's actually an American pretending to be British.

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To me as someone raised in London he sounded like he was attempting a northern English accent. It wasnt too bad actually kind of yorkshire-ish! It is a great film, i love it!

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Cillian Murphy is from County Cork, which is about as south as one can get on the island of Ireland. He is not from Northern Ireland.

In any event, while a majority of people from Northern Ireland are British, a significant minority are not, so assuming that a person can be called British simply because they are from Northern Ireland is not a good idea.

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That's irrelevant to the poster's intention. She/he was stating that there are plenty of non-American actors who play American roles. Cillian is still not an American, and therefore the point stands

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Idk why it bothers people so much, I mean it's one thing if they had horrendous accents but I thought Frances Mcdormand and Lee Pace did really well. (I found Lee Pace super charming, even if his accent was bad I'd still love his character).

But it goes both ways, there are so many non-american actors that are in American roles... half the time no one notices. I mean at least four actors in the Walking Dead are British, as was a good portion of the cast of the Wire.

Here are some movie actors/actresses that aren't American but play Americans:
Christian Bale (Legit didn't know he was Welsh until I saw an interview for TDK)
Henry Cavill (Man of Steel)
Tom Hiddleston (Midnight in Paris)
Michael Sheen (Midnight in Paris)
Gary Oldman (do I really need to list the movies?)
Liam Hemsworth (Paranoia, The Hunger Games (1-4), The Expendables 2, The last song, +)
Chris Hemsworth (Red Dawn, Cabin in the Woods, Star Trek, +)
Toni Collette (too many to name, I thought she was American too)


Here are some TV actors/actresses that aren't American but playing Americans:
Ryan Kwanten (True Blood)
Charlie Hunam (Sons of Anarchy)
Hugh Laurie (House)
Jesse Spencer (Chicago Fire)
David Morrissey (the Walking Dead)
Lauren Cohan (the Walking Dead)
Andrew Lincoln (The main character on the Walking Dead)
Lennie James (the Walking Dead)
Alan Cumming (The Good Wife)
Yvonne Strahovski (Chuck and Dexter)
Alex O'Loughlin (Hawaii Five-O)
Anna Torv (Fringe)
Poppy Montgomery (Without a Trace)
Freddie Highmore (Bates Motel)
Joel Kinnamen (The Killing/Robocop)
Matthew Rhys (The Americans)
Simon Baker (The Mentalist plus a bunch of movies)
Damian Lewis (Homeland)
Ed Westwik (Gossip Girl)
Idris Elba (The Wire)
Dominic West (The Wire)
Aidan Gillen (The Wire)

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I do find that typically, people from other places seem to express annoyance over American actors playing characters from their country, etc…I also find that Americans don't really seem to mind actors from other countries playing American characters. I know I don't. If they're good at their job than it isn't a problem. Some of my favorite movies feature British actors playing American characters.

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Well I'm American, and FM's accent annoyed me. I usually love her in this type of role, but all I could think was why didn't they cast Juliet Stevenson or Imelda Staunton?

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