Any Word on Renewal - Sanctuary (2008) Discussion

[–] muppetlala 12 years ago

I have a feeling thats the end for Sanctuary. If they were keen on renewing it, I personally think they'd have done it by now, or at least before the series ended.
Tis a sad sad day, but at least it didn't end on a cliffhanger. It's a shame because the way they ended it, it could have gone in so many awesome directions.

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[–] Seymour-Pats 12 years ago

Yeah, I'm worried too. Amanda Tapping said in an interview that the decision on renewal had always been made before that season finished airing.

Maybe ScyFy is waiting to see how its new show Lost Girl does? If it does poorly, maybe they'll renew Sanctuary.

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[–] shazza-7 12 years ago

SciFi really needs to get a clue and go back to what they were once known for, airing SciFi shows. They'd be stupid to not renew Sanctuary since Eureka is going to be in it's last season when it comes back. Then they'll be down to Warehouse 13, Haven and this new series, Lost Girl.

I thought I had heard they had 2 new series in the works, anyone heard about the other one?

I think they need more original shows so they can have something on air all year since Warehouse 13 and Haven start in the summer and end right around or slightly after the new seasons of network shows start up.

Minds are like books, they only function when open.

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[–] hakeem-8 12 years ago

"SciFi really needs to get a clue and go back to what they were once known for, airing SciFi shows. They'd be stupid to not renew Sanctuary since Eureka is going to be in it's last season when it comes back. Then they'll be down to Warehouse 13, Haven and this new series, Lost Girl.

I thought I had heard they had 2 new series in the works, anyone heard about the other one?

I think they need more original shows so they can have something on air all year since Warehouse 13 and Haven start in the summer and end right around or slightly after the new seasons of network shows start up."

Hrm. Have I understood this wrong or SciFi isn't actually producing Sanctuary, it's just broadcasting it? Wiki says that it's funded by this "Beedie Development Group".

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[–] shazza-7 12 years ago

That's kinda my point. SciFi doesn't have many original shows anymore, so getting rid of a good one, whether a SciFi original or not, is dumb in my opinion. Being Human isn't original since they took the idea from the English/European version and just made it American. Lost Girl, from my understanding from other posts(unless I read them wrong) is this is also an idea taken from another country's show. Haven and Alphas I don't watch, they don't interest me, though I'll watch Haven if nothing else is on, but something else normally is. Merlin isn't an original production either.

Yes, Stargate SG-1 wasn't their's originally, but they did do a spin off from it that was pretty successful and another one that could have been successful. Plus, they're airing wrestling now................ Kinda dumb to have your network named SyFy and air wrestling.

Minds are like books, they only function when open.

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[–] aurora1283 12 years ago

Lost Girl wasn't an IDEA taken from another countries show... It IS the other countries show. It is a Canadian show that has been on the air for almost 2 full seasons and is still going strong there. Syfy just picked it up.. so it def isn't an original show. Just thought u should know.

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[–] baff-1 12 years ago

Syfy also has Being Human, Alphas and Merlin. Eureka is the only sci-fi show they have on right now, everything else is fantasy or supernatural.

Syfy has a lot of other posible shows in the works:
BSG: Blood & Chrome
Ghost Projekt
Ghost Ghirls
Me & Lee
Booster Gold
Seeing Things
The Adjustment Bureau
and more...

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[–] Seymour-Pats 12 years ago

Has Alphas been renewed? I thought maybe it hadn't been since Being Human is now paired with Lost Girl.

Even with the shows you listed (one of which is a BBC production and simply aired by Scyfy), their scripted stuff still feels really limited. They don't have enough scripted shows to even put one on every weeknight.

I'm curious about the possible shows you listed. How many of the shows are scripted?

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[–] baff-1 12 years ago

Alphas is a summer show, it will return around July.

Lost Girl is a Canadian Show being aired by Syfy, so it seemed reasonable to mention Merlin.

Syfy has never had original scripted shows on every weeknight. Right now they have 4 summer shows, 1 winter show and 1 fall show, plus the 2 foreign shows for winter.

All the shows I listed are scripted. That doesn't mean they will all get picked up, in fact most of them won't. Last year Syfy had a longer list of potentials and only Alphas got picked up.

If you are interested in all the possible upcoming genre shows (on all channels), I maintain a list:
http://netflixcommunity.ning.com/group/wormholextreme/forum/topics/tv- show-start-dates

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[–] robble-1 12 years ago

This is why I don't trust SyFy any more. Science fiction fans always get stomped on. Even by the people that are supposed to be on their side.

I'm having nightmares about Farscape right now.

When a man is wrestling a leopard in the middle of a pond, he's in no position to run.

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[–] baff-1 12 years ago

There is a glimmer of hope.

While Sanctuary has the lowest ratings of any of the Syfy shows (1.2 million vs. about 2 million for most the other shows), the ratings this season are higher than they were in the second half of last season (about 800,000).

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[–] Seymour-Pats 12 years ago

That is good, but the ratings still seem awfully low.

It just seems like a channel that calls itself the Scyfy channel should have a good amount of shows that are actually sci-fi.

Does anyone know the ratings for those reality shows, like Ghost Hunters and Fact or Fake, ect.? I can't imagine sitting through an hour of any of those (Ghost Hunters: former plumbers pretending to be scientists and scaring themselves; Fact or Fake: 20-somethings with no obvious credentials watching video and discussing it). But I'm sure some people watch them, and I'm sure the shows are super-cheap to make (that "talent" can't cost that much).

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[–] baff-1 12 years ago

It used to be "The Sci-Fi Channel", now it is "Syfy" (not Scyfy). They went with the stupidest spelling so they could distance themselves a bit from actual sci-fi.

Ghost Hunters is their highest rated reality show with about 1.5 million viewers.

I couldn't sit through an entire episode of the awful show either. But as you say, it is cheap so it is in its 8th season with multiple spin-off shows. Puke. I really can't imagine what type of person could watch season after season of those obviously faked shows.

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[–] Seymour-Pats 12 years ago

Wow. I am amazed that many people watch Ghost Hunters! I can't imagine why anyone would watch it. I did actually sit through one episode a long time ago and I couldn't believe how stupid it was. I mean, they obviously don't know what they're doing at all, and I'm no parapsychologist and I could see that. They have this whole thing about how they try to "debunk" paranormal activity, but all they do is find an alternative explation and then say, "yeah, that's debunked". Well, no, actually it isn't. Finding a possible alternative explanation doesn't mean the first one isn't the real explation. Any scientist worth anything knows that. So I find it amazing that more people watch Ghost Hunters than Sanctuary.

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[–] dubounds 12 years ago

I hope they dont cancel this for Lost Girl. I'm halfway through the second season (Lost Girl) and it's not as good as Sanctuary.

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[–] htretg 12 years ago

Sadly the longer it takes to renew the less likely it gets

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[–] Seymour-Pats 12 years ago

Yeah, I think you're right. At least the season finale ended on a really good note and not with a cliffhanger. The producers/writers must have done that in case the cancellation notice came after the season ended. I think it's great that they wanted the show to have a proper ending.

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[–] sabalon1 12 years ago

and even if there is news of a renewel for a 5th season, with scyfy's track record, i will see it when i believe it.

farscape season 5 was confirmed, then they cancelled after season 4 wrapped with a cliffhanger. it was only after overwhelming fan response that we got the condensed season 5 peacekeeper wars

eureka was confirmed for more, then they changed their mind, leaving the show to scramble to condense a suitable conclusion.

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[–] Seymour-Pats 12 years ago

Yeah, scyfy does have a history of screwing over its shows and fans. If Sanctuary doesn't end, at least it ended in a great place (unlike the way Farscape originally ended, which would have been the all-time worst series ending ever).

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[–] obsessedwdrama 12 years ago

I am not completely convinced it is all over for Sanctuary just because they haven't yet been renewed. There are still countries where Sanctuary season 4 hasn't even aired yet. It seems as though with all the changes the Syfy network has been going through, over the last five years especially, they could possibly be changing when these decisions are made. Most networks decide around April or May what shows will be in their fall lineups. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high, but until I know for sure what the fate of the series is, I am not going to get prematurely depressed about it. Fingers crossed. TV is mostly crap nowadays with a few gems here and there, let's hope they don't flush this one away.

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[–] tbonesays 12 years ago

I am. We have the season finale directly referencing the series premiere; Sanctuary for All vs Sanctuary for None. Gimmicks in the season. One of the cast, who played two characters, has upgraded to greener pastures. Silence after the finale.

Yeah it's done.

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[–] obsessedwdrama 12 years ago

I agree that it certainly doesn't look promising, especially with Chris Hyerdahl working on so many other projects, but I have seen series reference their premiere titles before and not end. Charmed, for example didn't know if they were coming back for an eighth season and made season 7's finale a show that could work as a series ender if it absolutely had to. They entitled it 'Something Wicca This Way Goes' in reference to the pilot, 'Something Wicca This Way Comes'. They did end up coming back for an eighth season, no doubt due to an overwhelming response from fans who didn't want to see it die. Right now there is a large grassroots campaign going on to get Sanctuary renewed. It could go either way, but only time will tell.

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[–] hal-141 12 years ago

That's not entirely accurate.

SciFi (as it was then) had no plans for anymore Farscape.

The production company decided to produce Peacekeeper Wars to finish off the series before they had a buyer. So the production decision was made after cancellation and independent of SciFi. It was an international series, so they could have sold it to many outlets not in the US and still made money.

If anything, viewer response convinced SciFi to go on and buy rights to a product that already existed.

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[–] htretg 12 years ago

Being Human was renewed today, and still no word on Sanctuary. To me that says it all

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[–] tbonesays 12 years ago

Sigh. . .

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[–] cyber_nerdz 12 years ago

SyFy reality tv show boycott anyone?!

As it is heading the direction of that stuff forming the bulk of its programming I suppose I could have called it a SyFy boycott.

Obviously if they make a reality show called "bisexual she-werewolves gone wild" that will be excempt from any boycottt (actually that would have more class than most of their current line-up).

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[–] muppetlala 12 years ago

This article gives a LITTLE hope. Apparently sanctuary's fate rests on the new BSG series Blood and Chrome...

http://www.tvwise.co.uk/2012/02/reader-mailbag-is-syfy-going-to-cancel-sanctuary/

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[–] tbonesays 12 years ago

What about their tidal wave of Saturday made for tv movies?

They did find funding for the gem with Emilie Ullerup
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1684936/

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[–] shazza-7 12 years ago

Are you talking about Witch Hunter Gretel? I thought that girl looked familar but didn't catch the beginning so didn't see Emilie's name.

I wouldn't say that movie was so much a gem, unless of course you're just referring to Emilie being in it. I much preferred the other one, Black Forest(or close). If it had been an actual movie instead of a SciFi original, it could have been a very good one. As was, it had quite a few stupid parts.

But that's the problem, their "original movies" don't cost a lot to make because they don't have big name actors in them(except occasionally) and they're mostly crap. Sanctuary may not be funded by the SciFi channel, but how much does it cost them to get the right to air it compared to their original movies?

Minds are like books, they only function when open.

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[–] tbonesays 12 years ago

I wouldn't say that movie was so much a gem, unless of course you're just referring to Emilie being in it. I much preferred the other one, Black Forest(or close). If it had been an actual movie instead of a SciFi original, it could have been a very good one. As was, it had quite a few stupid parts.

I need an 'insert sarcasm here' emoticon. see the Hansel imdb message board or lack thereof. I should have watched the other one. But, has SoFew ever hit a winner with their original movies?

I posted somewhere that I played poker with one of their assistant producers and he went off on a rant about how they try to make them as cheaply as possible. He insisted that the movies never have scenes at night because they cost more to make, although I'm pretty sure he's wrong.

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[–] shazza-7 12 years ago

Would be nice if they'd add something to note sarcasm, as is, I do just that (insert sarcasm)......(end sarcasm) so people know when I'm being sarcastic.

Yes, the other one was much better, though being a SciFi original it sucked compared to if it had been an actual movie. At least the wolf in Black Forest looked like a real wolf, just bigger, considering what they could have done with it based off some of their crappy looking monsters.

Minds are like books, they only function when open.

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