Did the director...


ever meet a sound effect he didn't like? Jesus, was the sound on this movie overdone. Not just the scenes during the expirements (in which the sound effects became almost laughable)but just the scenes of people going about their business. Dipping a pen in an inkwell? Add a really loud splashing sound. Pulling a tube out of a bottle? Add a really loud pop when the tube comes out. Scraping the flesh off of a skull? Add some really loud... sounds. Performing an abortion? Add a really loud, and by really loud, I mean REALLY loud, scraping (?) sound. It was waaaaaaaayyyy overboard on the sound in this movie and it became very distracting, at least it did for me.

"H.I., you're young, you got your health... What do you want with a job?"

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I can totally see why you didn't like it, but I felt it was part of the very idiosyncratic style of the director. The reenacted scenes weren't supposed to be chilling, accurate and realistic, I guess, but rather over-the-top, gory, a sensorical overload. It worked pretty well for me, but as I said, I can understand how people think it's cheap or not well done.

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so I guess you've never watched an arthouse film before? this isn't some Blair Witch type of documentary. its an arthouse film. sound effects and acting are done the way it suits the director to create a certain atmosphere. if this was a David Lynch film I bet you wouldn't be complaining.

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This is the kind of response I hate. Someone makes a single criticism and you take it as their world view on cinema.

David Lynch would have done the sound effects well, regardless of how surreal or over-the-top they were meant to be. His sound design on ERASERHEAD, FIRE WALK WITH ME and even THE ELEPHANT MAN are all amazing.

Iskanov's sound effects are sloppy and inneffective, simply put. But that's in keeping with the rest of this waste-of-time movie.

The whole movie is a four hour long Nine Inch Nails video, and a poorly made one at that.

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Honestly, this whole argument seems like a highly subjective matter of personal preference more than anything tangible. None of these arguments are thoroughly convincing. They sound like whines of personal dissatisfaction as opposed to anything truly critical.

It doesn't surprise me at all that many think that Iskanov's style is amateur and of very poor quality. That's part of its subtle brilliance. The juxtaposition of the idiosyncratic sound creates a surreal tension to a film with serious subject matter. Much of it is out of place, out of sync, or just strangely disturbing. A strange dynamic is achieved with the coupling of this odd sound style with the austere ambient score provided by Alexander Shevchenko.

The valid comparisons to David Lynch are duly noted, although I think that Lynch intends to achieve different results with the methods he uses in his films. For example, I think that Eraserhead is a work of Surrealist art, and that Lynch has a beautifully articulated style. Lynch's aim, concerning the sound and music, in that film was to create a strange, surrealistic atmosphere and texture throughout the film.

Andrey Iskanov, on the other hand, intends to create a very uncomfortable and unnerving experience through the use of repetitive, loud, and over exaggerated sound effects. The music provides the counterpoint dynamics and intellectual warmth. This juxtaposition is quite surreal and avant-garde when you consider that this film contains a serious tone throughout its duration even during the more incredulous sequences. Philosophy of a Knife isn't exactly a traditional Surrealist film, instead it blurs genres together in a sophisticated art-house frenzy, and ties dissimilar techniques together to create a unique work of art.

Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion, regardless of the inherent fallacies. It's all a matter of personal preference in the highly subjective realm of artwork.

Quod scripsi scripsi.

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FIN - respectfully, there is nothing subtle about this director.
The overwhelmingly popular problem with his work as far as I can see (based upon reviews I've read on-line and on sites such as IMDb and Netflix) is that is it extremely hard to feel "uncomfortable" or "unnerved" as the director intended from the merits of this film because his pacing is horrendous. In other words, it's hard for the overwhelming majority to find merit in a film where his execution takes too long and he meanders when setting up his shots.

So, he can blur genres all he wants and be avant-garde until the cows come home, but it's extremely hard to appreciate what the director is doing when it appears as though he doesn't himself. And again this isn't just opinion - based upon the reviews I've read, it is the majority opinion. But I will agree that this is "unique."

As an aside, I see literally no connection between Lynch or Iskanov.

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A response that's almost two years late to a response that was almost a whole year late. A bit strange that it's come full circle now.

That post that you're responding to is dated December 26th 2009, a bit over two years from now, and obviously I don't have the same exact opinions as I did back then, yet I'm amazed that I'm still in agreement, and therefore consistent, with what I said so long ago. So with time I have expanded on these ideas so I can elucidate what I was saying in 2009 in more detail, or at least in a slightly different way.

What I was referring to when I said that Iskanov was subtle had more to do with the methods that he uses to establish his shots (not in the technical sense anyway, but the arrangement of music and images), which is to say that the subtlety isn't about the surface layer of the film but the methodology of it all. It sounds somewhat esoteric to describe it in this way, but that's because I wasn't discussing any conventional sense of what is subtle.

Again, back to the subtlety, I think that Iskanov was incorporating elements from the art-house aesthetic and reconfiguring them in the horror context, breeding some mutant strain of art-horror that seems to be catching on in Europe with figures like Marian Dora and so on, which by itself is a subtle trick. Aside from that what's remarkable about Philosophy of a Knife is that there's historical value to the film, by virtue of the subject matter and the interview elements that weave through the dramatic interpretation and cinematic flourishes, like that curious introductory sequence.

Not everyone is going to appreciate the film or the pacing. It's four hours long and it burns like a slow candle, in the vein of other Russian masters like Tarkovsky. The tone varies throughout the film as contemplative, reflective, sinister, foreboding, eerie, assertive, calm, and mysterious, with gradations and admixtures at choice intervals. And the pacing is either in conflict with the tone or it reinforces it to great effect.

The point that I'm making here is that the pacing is meticulous and calculated to the degree that the director had absolute control over it. This isn't the fault of the filmmaker if the viewer is too impatient to allow the flow to take hold, that simply means that this film isn't meant for that specific viewer, and if that describes the majority of the viewers, then so be it, then it isn't meant for most people to watch.

And I understand where the confusion about Lynch lies at; the comparison was meant as a point of reference rather than a substantive analysis of the two auteurs. I was most interested in using the surrealistic work of Lynch as a springboard to discuss how Iskanov incorporated his influences into Philosophy of a Knife.

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This is so far down the scale from a David Lynch movie it isn't even funny.

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I never meant that my ears were hurting, only that the sound effects were just way overboard. The sound of the pen in the inkwell was just as loud as the dialogue. I mean come on.

And if David Lynch had made this, the sound wouldn't have been a problem. I'm not some idiot hack that thinks "Hostel" is the end all, be all of horror and I never saw a Steven Segal movie I enjoyed. I know film and realize when things are over done for one effect or another.

This movie was garbage. It was exploitation dressed as art-house trash dressed as a documentary.



"H.I., you're young, you got your health... What do you want with a job?"

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Meh. The sound is actually probably the most interesting part of the movie all things considered.

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