I totally agree with OP.
People can BASH this movie all they want, i don't care.
I liked it.
It was really suspenseful and anti-SAW considering the very low-budget.
And what about the ending? Cry more if you didn't like it.
It was a minimalistic ending... if you can't cope with that then you shouldn't even like movies like A Serious Man, Barton Fink, Thomas in Love and so on...
But i get it, some people prefer a TOTAL exposition of things and a full explanation of the plot. Well, ok, i feel sorry that Hollywood is your shepherd and you are the sheep.
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Starpurge
14 years ago
You're fully aware that the motive to this mans actions are as follows:
Some guy trying hard to resemble Chris Evans borrows money from Antoine from Deuce Bigalow. Chris Evans then fails at being a meth dealer and gets busted. So when he gets out of jail he buys a gun from Tyrese Gibson. The gun is later used to rob an Asian lady in a liquor store so that Chris can pay back Antoine. The Asian lady then explains the events to Clarissa. Meanwhile Chris Evans confesses to a priest about being the real robber. Back to Clarissa who is a down on her luck attorney who needs a win. Needing this win so bad she wrongfully accused a man of this crime. With the help of a cop whom is cheating on his wife with Clarissa she planted evidence to convict the innocent man. This innocent man goes to prison for his crimes where he is raped by a human representation of Big Gay Al. The innocent man contracts AIDS from Al and slowly begins to die. The mans father watches this by his bedside and applies to experimental medicinal treatment for AIDS patients but is declined by a scientist. The father then rounds these 9 people up and plays a game to "teach them" the error of their ways. After all of this he then frees her as he promised and is willing to turn himself in. She then shoots him and the other 2 survivors and as the police arrive she escapes out of what seems to be the back door.
Now if you were kind enough to read that ABSURD story than I will thank you.
With all of that said the plot holes and pointless dialogue in this movie are staggering.
One example: The priest character who heard the confession wouldn't break his oath at first. Making it very hard for me (and any other logical thinking person) "How did this become known to the captor". The only two people who knew of this event were Chris and Father Priest.
Another: The captor knew Chris Evans commited the crime which again only 2 people had this knowledge.
Another: The captor knew who sold the gun to Chris Evans, a man who said he had never been caught.
Some flashbacks and "plot developments" were completely unnecessary like unveiling Clarissa to have killed a rapist. Which actually was becoming a developing plot when we had learned slowly that multiple prisoners have killed people. But that stops dead for no reason at all.
The suspense was more minimalistic than the ending by far. It was rinse and repeat for 90 minute of "why are you here?!" responded with "WE NEED MORE TIME!" followed by an off camera gunshot. One of the scenes where they even showed the gun firing there was no fire out of the barrel because they didn't even think to include effects that minimal.
I feel bad for anyone who can call this movie anything above an example of how not to make a movie.
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chokeondis
14 years ago
Jesus i was laughing my ass off from the second sentence on! Thank you for replying so concisely!
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chokeondis
14 years ago
What I would like to know and I guess we both failed to point out is why didn't the asian translator end up in the room too? I mean (I can't remember the gender)he/she was just as much a part of the plot as any of the rest of them. So why the asian no language thing? What purpose did that serve? None at all it would appear to just about anybody I suppose.
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ThaTruth23
14 years ago
Wow. I came here to see what this movie was all about..apparently it sucks thanks for the rundown
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bing-57
14 years ago
> The only two people who knew of this event were Chris and Father Priest ... Another: The captor knew who sold the gun to Chris Evans, a man who said he had never been caught.
Oh, and you forgot;
Another: The captor knew that the DA gave the evidence to the cop to put in the evidence room. Only those two would have known.
Another: The captor knew of the loan to Chris despite the fact that he shouldn't even have known Chris was the robber.
Another: The captor knew of the affair and the true parentage of the DA's son. I recall that Kelly tried to keep a tight lid on that information.
And the plot itself was weak. What if the father had "randomly" killed one of the players before they revealed their key piece of information? Oops! Now it is impossible to figure out the solution and you might as well kill them all now.
Oh, and getting HIV these days is not a two-year death sentence. With standard treatments the victim can live a strong life for twenty more years. Look at Coogan who gave Wade the disease. He was still alive and relatively healthy two years after Wade died.
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jamason
14 years ago
Thank you! You caught exactly my opinion of the film - a cesspool of plot holes meant somehow to suggest a real screenplay. There was an idea for a watchable film in there, but it quickly shriveled up and died for lack of attention.
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dvdfanatic77
14 years ago
LMFAO! Are you high? Or were you when you watched this steaming turd of a "movie"? Anti-saw? its a horrible saw rip off.. this movie couldnt hold Saw's jock strap with a dumptruck....9 strangers in a room, why are we here, whats the deeper meaning, bla bla bla bla..... The ending? WHAT ENDING!?!? lol!!! nothing happened. they show melissa joan heart walking into an alley!!! Are you kidding, this movie wasnt worth the film it was shot on!! that is too funny..."a TOTAL exposition of things"...how about 1%, how about ANY explanation of this films ending.
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sm-connors
14 years ago
I sure have to agree w/you there. This movie sucked and Melissa Joan Hart's acting was HORRENDOUS. She was even worse than the unknowns in the film. The plot was far from original and there was no real suspense. I just wanted the movie to hurry up and get the hell to the end.
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BirdsDoThus
14 years ago
Buddy are you telling me you are both a fan of the work of the coen brothers...AND this film? Because that is pretty impressive. I mean to just not feel any shame like that...
Like seriously did that just happen? That in some small way you compared A Serious Man to Nine Dead? Just trying to process that...
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