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Some of the questions aren't 5th grade level


When I was in the 5th grade 10 years ago, we didn't learn anything about integers. In fact, I went to my old elementary school and looked in the textbooks I used when I was in the 5th grade and it didn't say anything about integers and things like that. We didn't learn integers 'til 7th grade. I think this show should have questions that we learned when we were in the 5th grade. Not all of the questions they ask are 5th grade level or below. Some are junior high level questions.

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Dear Lord, what the hell did you learn in fifth grade? You didn't get to integers until seventh grade?

Please read and pay attention to what I wrote before posting a reply.

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As I said, I didn't learn about integers 'til seventh grade because our textbooks didn't have integers until we reached the seventh grade. The fifth or six grade books didn't have them, but the seventh grade books had it. So it's not my fault we didn't learn it until the seventh grade. Yes, they were new books at the time. Some areas learn things differently, so as I said it's not my fault I learned it at a later grade. It's not like they waited until high school to teach me. From what I remember back in the fifth grade we learned percentages and fractions mostly. I don't remember everything that well, so please don't ask.

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I don't remember my own fifth grade, but I do remember asking my niece if she knew the answers, as she had just finished 5th grade, and she had NO CLUE! Just sayin'.

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At that level, most grade school math classes still refer to Integers as "Whole Numbers". In that grade, you will be taught "whole numbers", "decimals", and then "fractions". You know this is true.

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MOST of the questions aren't on a fifth grade level. In fact, I've yet to see something I learned in fifth grade. Most of the "fifth grade" questions we learned in sixth grade, and some ranging up through Junior High and High School. Some things I never learned at all because they're POINTLESS. I saw a question once about what substance wasn't found in Chloroplasts. It doesn't matter at all, as long as you know what Chloroplasts do. That's the thing I hate most about this show.

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Unless you were recently in 5th grade when you made this comment, your comment means exactly nothing. What is taught has changed considerably over the last 10 to 15 years, perhaps even further back than that.

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I'm looking at my son's current FIFTH GRADE MATH TEXTBOOK.

No reference to "integers".

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You were in the fifth grade ten years ago. Fifth grade now ir different than it was a decade ago. What you learned in fifth grade is more advanced than what your parents did.Why do most people not realize that about this show? It's not "Are you smarter than you were when you were in fifth grade?"

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Yes, fifth grade now is different BUT they should realize some people don't remember stuff like integers well. They should put stuff at a fifth grade level from when THEY were in the fifth grade, not what fifth graders are learning now.

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THe name of the show wasn't "Are you as smart now as you were in 5th Grade." The whole premise of the show was that people thought it would be easy for adults to answer questions as high as the 5th grade level. Unless you are learning the stuff every day or applying it every day, you quickly lose this knowledge, that's why this show works so well.

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The point people are making is that many of these questions are not questions a typical 5th grader would even understand let alone answer. While the more complex nature of the questions is less obvious for 5th grade, it is like (as a simple example) saying that kids learn addition in grade 1, but asking them to add 1,234,242 + 4,534,433 in their heads.

Many of the questions had that problem.

I would still be very interested in seeing the original kids try the show out now that they are all hitting 20.

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Wow.

I learned integers in 4th grade.

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No, you did not.

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I was in the 5th grade 41 years ago ... and WE had studied integers in the 4th grade. Yikes.

Though, I DO have to admit, that a lot of the questions are higher than a 5th grade level.

There are often references to obscure books or places ... that unless you just happened to read that book or been to that place, you probably wouldn't know.

I just watched a re-run from 2009 the other day where they asked about a particular state park that I had never even HEARD of (and I have traveled to every state in the continental US).

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Actually what is relevant here is when you learn DECIMAL numbers. You actually LEARN integers in kindergarten or when you learn to count at age 3 or 4 but you do not know that is what they are, and you do not know the relevance of them being integers until you learn about decimal numbers.

I can't remember when it was discussed explicitly when I was in school but grade 6 or 7 sounds about right.

All this side stepping the fact that you learn to deal with money in grades 2 or 3 on some level but nobody bothers to point out that these are decimal numbers and how they relate to fractions or integer numbers in any substantial way until much later.

Ironically, when I have tutored kids that have problems with math, if you give them a decimal arithmatic question they get flustered and confused but if you give them the exact same question framed as a money question they can do it no problem. The brain is a funny thing.

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Most of the questions ARE higher than the fifth grade level, but i remember learning integers in fourth grade very clearly. They're easy.

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They taught us ALGEBRA in 4th grade. It was a heavily dumbed down version of algebra to help us to understand it, but it was algebra.

What kind of dumbass school did you go to where they didn't even teach negative numbers until 7th grade?

Although, I still remember in 1st or 2nd grade our teacher told us negative numbers didn't exist. I wanted to punch her in the face with my tiny little fist. And if I remembered specifically who it was, I'd look her up, go to her house, and punch her in the face.


However, that being said... I do agree. Some of the questions are not 5th grade (or with the new season) 4th grade level. When the contestant, all 3 kids, and their family all have no idea what the answer is, it's probably not 4th grade level.

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geez no need to diss people for not learning integers early >_>

all schools are different anyway

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Ok, integers was a really bad example of the point you're making and I think I remember learning that before 5th grade. However, some of the science/history questions they have are rediculous. Like questions about riivers/lkes that are in Africa or Asia, or what who was the only president to not have a vice president to not have a vice president for two years. I just finished high school over a month ago and don't remember learning moat of that stuff, and most of the ones I knew were HS level.

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I just saw an episode with the question "Who was the only president to serve his entire term without a vice president" (or similar wording). Their answer was Chester Arthur, but the question is nonsense, because of the "only". All four of the 19th Century vice presidents who became president on the death of their predecessors served their whole presidencies without a veep. These were Tyler, Fillmore, A. Johnson, and Arthur, none of whom was later elected to his own term as president. Until 1967, there was no provision for replacing a vacancy in the vice presidency until the next one was elected and inaugurated.

There's a silly alternative, since the pre-1967 Constitution merely says that the powers and duties of the dead/incapacitated president devolve on the vice president. Taken literally, it would make the correct answer to the question be "no one", because each of those four would have still been his own vice president! (In fact, there was debate in 1841 over whether Tyler was really president, or merely acting as one. Tyler's point of view won.)

The question cited above: "Who was the only president to not have a vice president for two years?" wouldn't have worked either. The four above plus Madison, Pierce, Cleveland, T. Roosevelt, and Truman all went over two years without a veep.

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