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Why do so many Christians endorse such lame movies?


Keep in mind, I'm a Christian...actually I'm also a Pastor. Are believers so desperate for entertainment they'll flock to see any piece of junk based on a biblical theme or concept? I've no problem with Bible based movies, but at least do them well. Hollywood spends a lot of money to make movies filled with moral filth. Why do Christians continually settle for and recommend second or third rate garbage...Left Behind movies anyone???? Honestly, some of the movies put out by Christians, though well intended, actually hurt the cause of Christ by making believers a laughing stock.

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I couldn't agree with you more,

I am a christian and a BIG time movie buff,

And I can't believe how bad these movies are.

I see them all the time and all these Chrisians love it.

The whole plot of these movies are just filler to say at the end "God is awesome" or "Have Faith" Which could be good messages. But the rest of the movie is a joke therefore no one takes the message seriously

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I think the entire film industry will be better off when Christian film makers realize that they can do more than retell bible stories people already know. the message is whats important, not the exact details. you don't need to label something a 'Christian movie' for it to be a good moral story.

It shouldn't be about how Christian a film is, it should be about making the best movie possible, while avoiding making it a 2 hour lecture. All good films have a message, and the best films have a message worth hearing. Copying the bible doesn't help... because people who aren't interested in the bible will automatically ignore it, and that then feeds onto the financial side of things, because films that get enough money to be made properly are the ones that will make money.

So in a way, Christian film making shouldn't exist.... it should simply be film making like any other, only motivated by people who want to spread the right kind of messages.

I would actually argue that Dogma is the greatest Christian film made so far, because it spoke to an audience in their own language, while still delivering an extremely positive message about religion. People may hate it for the swearing and all that other stuff, but then it wasn't made for those people, because those people don't need to hear what it was saying.

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Very smart post.

If I find out a movie is christian based, then I wont see it , and none of my close friends will see it either, and that's where the filmakers get it wrong.Your supposed to want to convert me, remember?

Now I love films like Dogma and Saved!, and I think they have good messages for both sides.



I hate how IMDb signatures look like part of the post.

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Couldn't agree more.
Even making supposedly 'good christian movies' isn't an option.
Just make a good movie, and if it has so called christian sprirituality (whatever that is), it'll do much better, then to produce another craptastic fan service for bible readers.

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wtf is up with you putting a blank line in between every part of the sentence? Is that supposed to make it seem more dramatic? Make it look like you typed more?

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it's called a paragraph.

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Ben-Hur was good.

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And I'm sure you can point out a specific contradiction. Lol.

But yeah I mainly agree with these posts..

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This post was pointless.

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Your comment was very ignorant, biased, prejudiced and baseless. "self-contradictory," "fascist" and "backward" are words that atheists have been using for hundreds of years to describe Judaism and Christianity, and you're just repeating them with no reasoning or knowledge, except that you have some axe to grind with religion.
Name one instance in the Bible that falls under any of those descriptions without taking things out of context. Otherwise, you're no better than the Christians who likes this movie.
And you obviously didn't read any of the posts before yours by Christians who have good taste in movies, which further proves everything I've said above. I'm sure you're doing so much to make the world a better place, too.

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the Michael's thoughts,
1. andrewpotter said everything I was about to say, that and the guy who said Ben Hur was good because those are very good movies.

2. Screw you fudgenuts

3. And as for you miskatonic86, keep in mind that there are Chistians and Catholics who are actually smart, (mostly up here in Canada). But I don't blame you, because I've heard a lot of stupid *beep* coming out the mouths of atheists and non-atheists on the internet. But I assure you there are smart religeous people like myself and blood and sex in movies does not effect my judgement whatsoever.

Also, I love Taxi Driver too. That movie is awesome.

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A fundamental hurdle is that, operating from within a framework of strong religious faith, it's hard to produce a conflict that's dramatically interesting. Intense drama involves temptation and uncertainty; strong faith provides assurance that, at the end of the day, the world is in good hands. So a lot of what passes for "religious drama" is just a reassurance that everything is okay, and we just have to realize that and walk in faith. The message may be true and vital, but that's not an interesting way to convey it.

There are exceptions. Mel Gibson, who obviously has to wrestle with his own personal demons, overwhelmed us with "Passion of the Christ". Richard Dutcher (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0244756/) has created a series of intense dramatic films which are profoundly spiritual at the core. "The Rapture" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102757/) brilliantly portrayed the spirit of a lost woman trying too hard to seek the righteous path...although I'm not sure whether the creators were working from a religious or secular perspective. I'm always looking for more films like these.

The Bible itself -- certainly the Old Testament -- is filled with tales of people making mistakes and doing the wrong things. To pick an example at random...Jacob hijacks the entire legacy of the Jewish people, which rightly belonged to his brother Esau. So he tricked Esau and impersonated him in front of his father, and took for himself the blessing that was supposed to go to Esau. Esau swore revenge and Jacob fled. Years later, Jacob cautiously attempts to reconcile, not knowing whether his brother still intends to kill him. In an eerie reversal of the way Isaac was hoodwinked, Jacob is drawn into a fight with a mysterious stranger, whom he ultimately subdues. He then demands a blessing from this man. The stranger asks his name, and this time Jacob gives his true name...and now it's the stranger who gives him a new name: "Israel", which identifies Jacob as a man who wrestled with God.

The patriarchs were human beings, not saints. This sort of intra-family warring and ultimate closure rings very true. It could be the stuff of powerful drama, if it were undertaken by the right people.

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The best versions of Bible stories I've ever seen are the "Testament" series of animations of old testament stories. They are original, dramatic and brilliantly animated. They stand head and shoulders above the vast majority of biblical cartoons.

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And don't forget that Jacob (a.k.a Israel) was a terrible father. He has some blame on the awful things almost all his sons did (Judah, Joseph, Benjamin and to a lesser extent Reuben were good).

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