BETTER THAN GREEN STREET !
After seeing some scenes from this film I think this will be the best football hooligan film ever.
But saying that this is much more than just a hooli film
I agree,The extra in the pub scene was good looking LOL
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Being a better film than green street isnt much of an acheivement.
Because it's a Cass Pennant movie, it'll be full of *beep* but probably better than the most other things that have come out. except The Firm.
I reckon Cass is going to a much better recreatement of football violence then The Firm. Don't get me wrong, I loved The Firm but it was written by someone who didn't have a clue about football violence apart from the news. If I remember right some of the ICF lads were called in as script supervisors to help get the dialogue right but that's all they consulted on.
While football dominated Cass' life for the most part there's far more to him than that. What happened during his trial, in prison and after leaving the ICF is a gripping story. He's actually a really good bloke, unless of course you're Milwall!
Basically there is no mention of his trial mate. He has a scrap in the pub and then the next thing you see he is in prison. Even when in prison he has a scuffle, then a chat and then he is ou of prison. Doesn't exactly look in depth at what happened to him during this clearly major event in his life. It's as if the action is in the fighting outside so let's get this prison bit out of the way
sharelegal reasons that's why. That's the problem with these books on films.
sharewhere did you see these ?
shareall of the extras in the film are west ham fans,and some of us did some voiceover work too.scenes worked well
sharemillwall dont "win" at the end do they? like all the other films....
sharemillwall dont even get a mention two bob firm
shareMillwall do get a mention in the film. Saw an advance screening of it on Tuesday in Sunderland. Was ok given that i saw it for free after a few beers. Had i paid money for it i wouldn't have been quite so pleased. He seems to turn his life around on a whim and then the film ends. I don't know what i was expecting but it hardly gave an insight into his character of why he would decide to change his life around. It was just one second of 'nah i don't want to do this' and then the film ends. And being better than Green Street is no achievement. Like i say, ok for free but you are best of waiting to see it on TV. If you want pure violence there are better films, and if you want to see a character's change of lifestyle and outlook on life then go watch something like American History X.
shareNot really.
There actually isnt that much violence.
1.West Ham at Wolves, filmed by a subway to recreate the "Subway Army's" m.o.
Wolves batter a small West Ham mob,runners bumb into West Hams Main Firm and have a straightener. A 20 a side score draw really, to keep Gilly, who is in it, happy.
2.Leeds v West Ham, clearly filmed in London, more of a scuffle really,again 20 a side, and the "turned over" Leeds pub looked more like it had hosted a childrens party than the ICF.
3.Newcastle v West ham. Wholly filmed in a nightclub, the sequence is more comedy than anything else as the comic tries to keep going a sit comes on top all around him.
4.West Ham v Arsenal ambush. Filmed outside Upton park on a "snatch and run".
A non match day. What was the ICF boy doing wandering outside the Chicken Run, and why were the Gooners there tooled up? Risible setting, BUT, the cowardly ambush by three knife wielding thugs on a single defenceless lad much closer to the truth of what it could all be about. APART from the fact that they dont show the slashing or the immediste aftermath of an alleged 1000 stitches job.
Cass was too close to this film, and it sufffers as a result. There are several faces from firms other than the ICF in the film too. How a film about the west ham family does not mention the North Bank or the Chicken Run once is beyond me, the South Bank gets a casual reference. The opposition gets treated with far too much respect, the dissing of Chelsea is jokey, and all games in the North are "hard".
One final observation about the romantic glamourising of the violemce of the period. The fights are set like Wil West bar room brawls. The reality is that if you take one ood punch, you are down, a crack over the head with a lead puipe, and you are down, a kick in the bolocks or stomach, and you are down. it hurt!
No they weren't.
The director is Scottish and got some mates down from Aberdeen for the pub fight scene. There were a few Mackems aswell as some local boys too.
Didnt expect to be seeing a stripper at 12 o'clock on a Sunday, I can tell you!
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I've never seen Green Street, and never will...
A. Its directed by a WOMAN
B. It has the Hobbit in it
i took a crap this morning that was better than green street.
share16 hours of black and white footage of my rear end would be a better film than green street!!
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Saw Cass a while back and I'll be getting the DVD when its out next month, I enjoyed it even though I was the only one in the cimema. More complex than normal and the action is good, though still nowhere near the class of 'Awaydays' which I caught at a festival a few weeks ago.
shareReally? You haven't even seen the film and yet you state that it is better than Green Street...For God's sake!
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