Why does Hollywood need to do a remake of this movie??
Why can't Americans just watch a freaking movie with subtitles for once?
They kill everything over there.
Hollywood remaking a movie makes the original even better, no ?
shareWell yes it's the American way.
They see something good they need to destroy it and fokk it up, and that goes for everything not just movies...
There must be more guns and flagg waveing, the bad guy needs to be either Serb or Arab otherwise there is no point to watch it for the Americans.
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Things are rarely better when they are taken out of their original context and put into a totally different one. Maybe instead of changing everything to their point of view, Americans should try to understand the different cultures. We have to watch most things the American way, and we are doing just fine.
shareI couldn't agree with you more therhcp. I love watching foreign films and understanding different cultures. Don't understand why most Americans do not. I am American but prefer subtitles over a remake or dubbing any day!
shareReally *beep* Americans see something good and we need to destroy it and *beep* it up? AND that goes for EVERYTHING not just movies? We see something good and think "That's not allowed because we aren't responsible for it." Please give me another example of something that Americans supposedly destroyed because it was sooooo good. Or just something we destroyed. Like Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.
Or are you just bitter because we support Kosovo's independence?
After you're done giving the list of things America has destroyed because we're so jealous of them, you can tell me what the last Hollywood movie involving an Arab as the bad guy was. Then I would like it if you told me about any movie at all where a Serb is the bad guy because I have never heard of one. Well I guess Behind Enemy Lines is but that was based on a true story about how awful you people are.
Hollywood is full of the most unpatriotic liberals in America. They don't support guns and flag waving. They don't make movies where the enemy is an Arab anymore. They are politically correct *beep* who do all they can to not offend people. After 9/11 they couldn't make any more movies with Arab terrorists, they had to change to something less controversial so they started picking on Russia and Eastern Europe, when that pissed them off they did WWII movies and now Germans are mad. Any movie they've made about the Iraq war has done horribly at the box office because they have such an anti-American view about how the war is awful and we need to not get involved in world affairs.
But that's not possible. Like it or not America is the most powerful country in the world and you have responsibility when you're powerful. The responsibility to support the less fortunate. The responsibility to do what is right and not what people want you to do. All these world leaders that publicly condemn what America is doing in the Middle East and elsewhere, are relieved that we are doing it because they know they can't. If we did nothing we would be hated for that too. But we don't give a *beep* if you hate us. You can have all the hatred in the world for Americans but we go to bed peacefully every night knowing that we are safe and that we are free.
If you don't like what America is doing, that's fine. But if you can't respect what we've done for you and the rest of the world, you can go *beep* yourself.
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Thank you for the lecture. Please tell me more.
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Oh wow.
First off, USA the land of the brave and the free. We're living in freedom also, I'm not degrading your post, yet, but when you throw the we're free statement around it kinda implies that we're not. We are. Now, while that's out of the world I'd like to point out that this isn't really about the Americans in general, just your movie business. Don't copy others work, it's rude, don't copy artwork, that's just weird. The movie especially bases much on context, it tells the tale of Oslo and Norwegian culture. To remake it would be a little degrading and insulting, as well as make this one better, as already said above somewhere.
The Hollywood movie business is all about making money, not films. If there was a lot of money to be made in Iraqi-slaughter and such, there would be loads about.
And did you just bring up the war in the middle east? What does that have to do with anything? You will find that war is not supported in Europe, regardless of the situation. And a poorly based one as the Iraqi one, even less. Something had to be done, killing rampage was not an option.
But that doesn't have anything to do with this film and the possible remake. It should not be remade, regardless of your work in WW2.
And please show a little less of ignorance towards criticism. Not everything is about war. Seriously.
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wow, this thread got out of its original context real fast:P am I the only one who thinks it can be good??? also, any news on this actually being made? hollywood buys rights for tons of stuff that never gets made yyou know, just in case:P
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I do not care about the American remakes, let the Americans enjoy their remakes, they do not know what they are missing. I'm really looking forward to the remake of Let The Right One In! :-)
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As long as Chris Rock isn't starring in it, it should be okay. lol
shareAnother example of the gutless, witless, and clueless American film industry. These clowns can't come up with anything new on their own, so they pay flunkies to peruse 'The Best of Foreign Films', and then loot them for 'fresh' ideas. It is reprehensible!!
I think that all American films that have been 'reconstructed' from foreign ones should come with a huge disclaimer.
"THIS FILM HAS BEEN PLAGIARIZED"!!
Excuse My Dust...
Unfortunatly Americans don't even have a chance to judge as it's not released there. I wonder what Europeans would say if American films wouldn't be released here but made into something more understandable for us. :|
There are so many things I learnt about American culture through movies - why shouldn't American learn?
Like America or not... When he played Bridge Over Troubled Water by Simon and Garfunkel, my mind was blown. And THAT my friends, is America! :)
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"Film will only become an art when its materials are as inexpensive as pencil and paper." - Jean Cocteau
"Hollywood has melted everyone's brains. In the old days you had one murder and that was enough for a story. Now you have to kill 300,000 people just to get the audience's attention." - Aki Kaurismaki
As an American / Californian, I feel that big studio Hollywood filmmaking is just all about making money, and the artistic merits of a film are just irrelevant. Hollywood films are aimed at "the lowest common denominator" of the general public, that is, they are geared to the broadest possible audience. Unfortunately, if you're gearing your films to appeal to EVERYBODY, that means that you must make films that appeal to the very uneducated, and the culturally Neanderthal people in the public too, because their money is just as good as anyone else's as far as Hollywood is concerned. But if you intend to make films that appeal to EVERYONE, even the artistic/cultural retards and illiterates in the crowd, then of course, your films are going to become less "artistic" and more "sensational". And that's Hollywood films are in a nutshell, they strive for the "sensational", the screen images that just serve to vicariously stimulate the emotional level and the visceral (gut) level of the audience because EVERYONE can enjoy that kind of film, to some extent. This "sensational", but not very artistic, or thought provoking type of film is what all the gangster films, all the horror films, all the blood and gore films, all the sexually heavy films, all the Star War films, Jaws, The Exorcist, etc, etc are all about.
So if Hollywood can see a chance to make money by remaking a foreign film THEN WHY NOT? But you can be sure that Hollywood will convert any artistic merit, any intellectual component of a foreign film into their "sensational", "EVERYBODY has to like it" format so that, again, it will appeal to the "lowest common denominator", the broadest range of the general public, and sell the most tickets.
In his 15 hour documentary The Story Of Film: An Odyssey, Mark Cousins notes that very early in the history of Hollywood, all the filmmakers sold out to the big baking interests in New York, to be able to fund their elaborate productions. But once the Wall Street bankers got their hooks into American filmmaking, they never let go. And that's where Hollywood's "sensational" filmmaking, that's geared to "the lowest common denominator" of the general public started back in the 1910's, and has remained the Hollywood "style" of filmmaking ever since. Hollywood is a mega-corporate, big banking controlled business that not only is out to make the biggest bucks, but to MONOPOLIZE the market they are into, to drive out smaller competitors. That's what monopoly capitalism is all about. That's what Hollywood is all about.
That's why most films from Europe, in particular, are better than most Hollywood films. Most European governments subsidize their filmmaking industries to some extent, to make them somewhat independent of the market forces of capitalism, thereby giving their filmmakers more opportunity for artistic expression, and reflective thought in their films. That's why, as an American, I almost only view European films, that is, because I feel the film viewing experience should be more than just "entertainment", more than just a chance to stimulate myself vicariously, both emotionally, and viscerally, which is all Hollywood films have to offer me. Viewing European films gives me more of an opportunity to "think", while Hollywood films, in general, shut down my thinking all together.
The problem with the monopoly capitalists of Hollywood, however, is that they're just not satisfied with a MONOPOLY on the American public. In this age of "globalization", Hollywood would take over the whole world's film viewing audience, if given a chance. I realized this a couple of months ago when I visited a DVD sales website in Sweden, while I was looking for old Swedish films. 50% of the films on this Swedish website were Hollywood films, with Swedish subtitles. It looked to me, at least, like Hollywood was well on its way to monopolizing, to taking over the Swedish film market too.
There are two reasons for Hollywood to buy the rights to a foreign film:
1) Just to make more money for themselves off a remake.
2) When you own the rights to a film, you can somewhat control distribution of that film too. So, in the case of a thought provoking film, with lots of artistic merit, like Troubled Water (2008), a film that may be SO good that Hollywood might even find it threatening, by buying its rights allows Hollywood to create a "knock off" that has more general public appeal, that is more "sensational", and push the original foreign film out of the picture to some degree.
The ONLY American films that I view anymore are Indies, because most of the Independent filmmakers operate on small budgets that allow them to escape the clutches of the big bankers, and the mega-corporate, monopoly capitalists, And I've viewed MANY artistic, thought provoking, low budget American Indie films just because the filmmaker was able to focus more on the artistic end of the film, and less on the commercially viable end. Whit Stillman's Metropolitan (1990) is a film that I recently viewed that fits that category.
Message me through IMDB.com, or email me at [email protected], if you feel the same way about cinema, or even if you don't. I'd love to talk with you about it.