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So policemen are mostly conservatives?


Is that true?

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Generally yes. They have to deal with the negative effects of liberal policies regarding crime. For the similar reasons, social workers are more often liberal, because they have to deal with the negative effects of conservative policies regarding poverty.

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What a generalisation. Liberal politics doesn't mean being soft on crime.

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I notice you don't argue the other way, so thank you for telling us what your irrational bias is.

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I thought it was because of lack of education...

Beyonce and Jay-Z worship satan....

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Very strong union (if you can call it that) men. They protect-- as best they can--illegal activities when need be. Is that a conservative concept? Do you want to suspend indicted drug dealers with pay?
Maybe conservatives approve of high divorce rates, drug and PED use?

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Same with the military. In my time in the army I noticed there was a massive underepresentation of liberals, and revealing you were one was not encouraged. Its kinda like the reverse of conservative actors in hollywood

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Except that actors are glorified and people pay attention to what they say, and soldiers mostly get ignored. So it's not really the same.

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If lack of education = conservatism then why is Hollywood so liberal?

BOOM. Busted.

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Hollywood is liberal because Hollywood has an agenda. Look at the recent push and propaganda surrounding gay rights and you can see that. However, saying Hollywood lacks education is a stupid statement because it assumes that everyone in Hollywood is a reality star or a pop tart, when really those behind the scene, i.e. the Hollywood machine, calls the shots and pulls the strings. So you just basically busted yourself...

Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people

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Nah, you missed my point. If lack of education = conservatism then all the idiots up there would be claiming conservatism. But they're not. And I'm not talking about pop stars or reality stars, I mean producers and *beep*

Most of them are uneducated morons.

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Nowadays, with the success of say Michael Bay, Rob Zombie and even to a lesser degree Quentin Tarantino, some directors may consider forfeiting college educations. But the majority of those behind the scenes, pulling strings are extremely educated. I don't see how you would be referring to anyone other than actors, socialites and/or teeny-bop pop stars...

Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people

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'....or a pop tart'

What the hell is that supposed to mean ??

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It doesn't.

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Yes I think all over the world it's true they're mostly conservative, particularly the older ones. Various reasons, but I'm sure one is that they often see scumbags walk away, or wish they had more power to do things, and conservative parties generally do better on law and order issues.

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I think they can be reactionary. When they become police officers, their personalities change, and eventually develop an "us vs. them" mentality, due to both real and perceived bureaucratic and legal policies that they see as hindering their work. Unfortunately this mentality permeates through to ordinary law abiding civilians as well, and a general distrusting attitude towards the population. Observe how your friends from childhood and youth, upon going into law enforcement, no longer remained your friends really. Even their social off duty life revolves around other police for the most part. A police officer in a democracy would just as easily be a Gestapo (or comparable) officer should things ever swing that way. It's not so much the person I suppose, but the nature of the position of authority given to him or her with gun and badge, that changes them, consequently resulting in abuses of justice, being above the law to a certain point, and shielding each other from say drunk driving.

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I think at least some of them would have mixed views. I can imagine that some would see the negative consequences of drugs and would have a conservative view on the War on Drugs, but they would also see a lot poverty and have a left-wing view when it comes to welfare.

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They're mostly ass holes, that's for damn sure.

I'm happiest...in the saddle.

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Probably.

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All I'm going to say is its difficult to be a liberal when you see what a lot of cops see. You see things that make you question everything you learned in school. You see people stoop lower than you could've ever assumed they could stoop. You see people, whether they have it all or have nothing, piss it all away. You see people engage in acts of cruelty that are simply unfathomable, especially in a place like America. You see people take advantage of the kindness of others.

As a cop, you find out your teachers, the media, and even your parents lied to you.

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The opposite of liberal is not conservative, it is fascist. The opposite of conservative is progressive.

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