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My views on the car crash!

posted 17 years ago by msladysoul
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Wow! After seeing thid Doc I have to say it was eerie, disturbing, confusing. Lisa Lopes was very troubled and I wish someone would have gotten her mental help. There's pills and therapy that could have helped, taking trips to Honduras to get away wasn't the total cure.

Seeing her crash seem so unreal. Her look into the camera seconds before the crash almost looked as if she was saying bye or Im about to die. I dont know. She said she had spirits around her, had to be evil spirits, maybe an evil spirit jumped into her and made her swerve and killed her. Just speculating. Evil spirits can do that. Its eerie that the day of the final taping of her documentary, she dies. The boy that died with her last name. All the signs. She filmed a documentary knowing she was going to die and she wanted people to know about her and not the lies. I think when you believe your going to die, it might just happen.

So people may hate me for saying this but honestly she was the only one to die and had on a seatbelt, that wasn't her only doing, it had to be a spirit that maybe jumped into her. None of those other girls had seatbelts on. I know the driver can have a seatbelt on and still die because their behind the wheel and will suffer more if there is an accident. The car was tore up you would think everyone would have died in that little car. Another thing, I would have been afraid to drive with her in a car the way her mind went on and off. Another thing that contributed to the accident was the speeding, the distractions, the woman in the back asked Lisa for the Coca Cola thing and I think Lisa kept looking back and forth, back and forth.

What exactly was she swerving from? Maybe its just me but Lisa didnt have to die and the car didn't have to get that totalled from swerving and going in a ditch. Couldn't she swerve and break. It dont look like she ever stepped on the break. The little car was tore up but no one else died and Lisa was the only one ejected? Was Lisa at fault trying to pass another car and got into the direction of a truck? Why couldnt she just be patient why did she want to pass another car? That's reckless driving. I see people do that all the time if someone isn't going fast enough ahead of them they pass into the opposite lane to get in front of them and I be thinking what if another car is over there. What kind of truck was it - a big wheeler or a regular truck? Where are the ladies who were in the car, have they talked about the events? Where are the other people involved in the crash in other cars? I be scared driving in another country because of not being familiar. Do any of you think the boy dying was karma or what goes around, comes around? Something else, how come the whole crash wasn't shown on the documentary? Is there footage of the accident but was decided not to show that? Who cut the camera off or was that apart of the documentary? I'm surprised any footage was saved in such a horrific crash. A friend of mine said something that may sound disrespectful but she wondered did Lisa try to kill herself, wanting to end her life on the last day of her documentary? I know some will say why would she want to take out the people in the car with her but her mind wasn't right and sometimes you snap and lose it. I didn't hear any noise or screams or curses from Lisa during the crash. I'm not much of a shouter and screamer but in a car crash I'd be shouting, hollering, or cursing. Another theory I read was Lisa may have faked her death and is running around naked in Honduras like she wanted, kind of like how she faked being kidnapped once. Amazing!

I really would like to know the views of you all and some answers to some of my questions?

[–] njclay2004 17 years ago

You know, I saw this documentary a few days ago purely by accident. My TV guide said that VH1 Soul was airing music videos, but when I switched to that channel this Left Eye thing was playing. I knew of her, listened to TLC and everything but seeing it put a whole new perspective on it all.

First, the crash. It was probably difficult to hear but she said something along the lines of 'Oh shiiit!' as she was turning the wheel to avoid whatever it was. So I'm thinking it wasn't a suicide.

What I do believe is that everything happens for a reason. All the things she went through in her short life both good and bad culminated in her ability to film that documentary, to touch the lives of people that otherwise may not have been able to be reached. Think about it. How often do you get such an intimate view of any celebrity? It's important because these singers and rappers are people that are looked up to in some ways. She's one of the few that I think are actually deserving of that kind of respect.

Plus, I also believe that she had a gift of discernment and the ability to deal with spirits. A true child of God, you know? It was part of why she was able to sense those spirits. I don't think they were evil though. I think they were preparing her.

I dunno. Guess I'm going in circles here. Anyway, great documentary, worth a good debate or two.

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[–] poprockz212 17 years ago

If Lisa was running around naked in Hondouras right now, I would get a plane and get her naked ass back to the states. But it's impossible becuz her brother held her in his arms when she was dead and he felt her body go cold.

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[–] Littlemicki 17 years ago

To answer the original post: you asked what she was swerving from...you can't see in the video but there was a large truck in front that braked suddenly and Lisa swerved to avoid it. Was there something better she could have done? Almost certainly but if you've ever been in an accident, you don't get a lot of time to think. She shouldn't have been travelling so close behind and she should have worn her seatbelt that's for damn sure. Lisa was not the only one ejected from the vehicle, 3 others were as well and you can see in the video nobody ever wore seatbelts in the van.

[–] greydonsquare 17 years ago

She did wear her seatbelt. If you would have paid attention to the end of the documentary, it mentioned that she was the only member of the vehicle that wore a seatbelt.

[–] bluedim2 17 years ago

IT WASN'T HER LAST DAY OF FILMING..SHE HAD 5 DAYS LEFT AND SHE WAS WEARING HER SEAT BELT..

[–] Littlemicki 16 years ago

I paid attention dude. The newspaper said it, but it wasn't true. Lisa's uncle Kyle said Lisa never wore her seatbelt and he was always telling her to put it on. Now YOU pay attention, you will see Lisa is not wearing it while she is driving and also earlier in the van.

[–] sugar308 16 years ago

Yeah, but they said she was wearing a LAP belt. We can't see it even if she did have it on.

[–] Littlemicki 16 years ago

Watch the video. Just as she swerves, the camera shows a clear shot of her lap. Pause it. You can see the empty seatbelt holder beside her and NO LAP SASH. She was NOT wearing a seatbelt. The news reports either got it wrong, or they were covering up. The simple fact is she would not have flown out the window if she was wearing a seatbelt. There is footage of her being ejected but the Lopes family did not want it released.

[–] Monkeydigital 16 years ago

For all you brainiacs wearing a lap belt is essentially NOT WEARING a seatbelt at all. Lap belts do not prevent you from being ejected from a car.

[–] Littlemicki 16 years ago

Well you're right monkeydigital, but she wasn't even wearing that much and the video proves it. Also, a fairly new SUV like she was driving would not have a lap belt in the drivers seat, only in the back.

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[–] YouToober 16 years ago

Well, I myself don't believe in "God", a supreme Man, Woman or Spirit, as some people believe. I'm agnostic.

I also don't believe in a "time to die". There are MANY things, factors, etc., that can determine how long a person can live.

Now as for Lisa Lopes passing, it was a terrible and tragic accident. I personally don't believe that it was "her time to go".

From what I have been reading about the accident, and the viewing of the "Last Days" documentary, my opinion is if Lisa had been driving much slower, and was paying FULL ATTENTION to the road ahead while she was driving, she might still be here. One must be cautious while driving in general, but especially in SUVs, vehicles that have a higher center of gravity than cars and are top heavy. And these vehicles have a reputation for being involved in "tip overs".

I was in a motorcycle accident in November 2006, I could have been killed, but I was wearing a helmet, wasn't traveling so fast, and no other vehicles were following directly behind me.

But if I did lose my life that day, it would have been from not being cautious enough or maybe something beyond my control and could not have been avoided. But NOT because "it was my time to go".

Just giving an opinion.

[–] Littlemicki 16 years ago

Well I agree with you mwhite, I personally think the accident was caused by Lisa turning to hand the cards to Raina. The camera wasn't on her when it happened, but she must have turned to give them and the accident happened immediately afterward. I believe she ran up the back of the truck because she had taken her eyes off the road.

I do believe a little though that you can have a time to die, and it certainly was spooky that Lisa believed she was about to die, and the boy with the same last name a week earlier.

[–] sugar308 16 years ago

Littlemicki, what is your idea of fairly new? My friend's mom has the same Montero Lisa rented and it has lap belts only in the backseat (like u stated), so I think age of the car wouldn't matter. I heard some people say that over in Honduras all you need is a lap belt. So it probably did have lap belts in the front. But cars over there vary, like the Montero Lisa was driving didn't have airbags, but my friend's mom's Montero does.

[–] Littlemicki 16 years ago

MrsGutierrez: Well my idea of fairly new is 2 -3 years old. A very old car might not have been built to safety standards, but that SUV looked pretty new and since it was a rental it probably wasn't very old. It would be pretty unusual to have a lap belt in the front. In any case, she wasn't wearing a lap belt anyway and apparently she hardly ever wore a seatbelt.

ReJeCtz: In one way I agree with you, but on the other hand a seatbelt might have saved her life because she wouldn't have been thrown out. Depends on what you believe, maybe it was her time to die no matter what if that's what you believe.

[–] Littlemicki 16 years ago

http://youtube.com/watch?v=a30OGcDZJh4

Toward the end of this video, around 5:00 I think, one of the girls in the car talks about the accident. She says Lisa went around the truck that had stopped, but another car was coming on the other side so she swerved again and the gears locked.

Interestingly she also mentions that there were no speed limits in Honduras, so to all those that say Lisa was speeding, she wasn't breaking any rules.

[–] StarIsland 15 years ago

i dont think she needed medical help at all, she just went through ALOT, especially with that idiot boyfriend of hers. i bet he feels pretty rotten for treating her like that.

i do believe something was after her, i mean the signs were VERY obvious. VERY VERY obvious and there were too many coincidences. i dont think she was that troubled because i didnt sense any large amounts of fear in her while she documenting, but of course she wasnt being documented 24/7 so who knows how she expressed her feelings off the set. but at least she wasnt alone. she seemed like she was willing to accept that whatever happens, happens. Lisa is a very extrodinary one of a kind person. its sad that people like her are just taken that quick from this earth.

when it comes to the accident. i dont recall that there was another car near them. some say she saw someone or some figure getting in the road and thats what caught her off guard. plus the guy up front or anyone else said things like "look out! watch out!" to alert her. so i think it just came out of the blue. i dont think that coke can was the reason she died. its been so long since i seen the doc. but who knows.

My opinion.

[–] Littlemicki 15 years ago

StarIsland: No you can't see other cars on the video because the camera was on the girls, not the road. According to the others in the car, a large truck with bananas painted on it stopped suddenly. Lisa swerved before she ran into the back of it, but there was an oncoming vehicle on the other side so she had to run off the road. According to the witnesses the gear box locked up and she lost all control of the vehicle, and it began to flip. If she hadn't turned around to give the Coke cards to Raina, she might have seen she was getting too close to the truck.

Oh and Andre doesn't feel rotten at all. In an interview after her death he denied he ever abused her and basically called her a liar.

[–] sugar308 15 years ago

According to the others in the car, a large truck with bananas painted on it stopped suddenly. Lisa swerved before she ran into the back of it, but there was an oncoming vehicle on the other side so she had to run off the road. According to the witnesses the gear box locked up and she lost all control of the vehicle, and it began to flip. If she hadn't turned around to give the Coke cards to Raina, she might have seen she was getting too close to the truck.

ALL of what you said is true. I heard it from a passenger's mouth.

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[–] YouToober 15 years ago

"....a large truck....stopped suddenly. Lisa swerved before she ran into the back of it, but there was an oncoming vehicle on the other side so she had to run off the road. According to the witnesses the gear box locked up and she lost all control of the vehicle, and it began to flip. If she hadn't turned around to give the Coke cards to Raina, she might have seen she was getting too close to the truck."

I also believe speed was a factor. Lisa may have been driving too fast.

"Oh and Andre doesn't feel rotten at all. In an interview after her death he denied he ever abused her and basically called her a liar.

If thats true, then thats really messed up! Dam!

[–] StarIsland 15 years ago

He lied.......well i guess some people dont have a heart

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