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the series wasent that good even before seasons 8 and 7


outside of seasons 1 . 2 and 4. i can say this series was kinda terrible. dragged and slow as hell.

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Yet it was still better than most things on TV.

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Debatable.

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Well, most things but I did enjoy Dexter, Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul more.

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I watched the first episode, and couldn't have cared less, so didn't watch any more. Dwarfs and dragons and swords, oh my! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

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It was brilliant. And season 8, though disappointing, wasn't nearly as bad as some are saying.

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Yes, it was that bad.

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OH, it was BAAAAAAAD.

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Yes, it was..It destroyed all the prophecy and mythology that had been building from the beginning.
Nothing meant anything.
Nothing.
Nothing that had happened mattered.


And the mad Queen arc was probably the truest part of it all...just badly handled.

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It wasn't that badly handled. they'd been hinting at her becoming a power mad bloodthirsty Targaryan leading up to that.

It was a little abrupt, when she really raged on King's Landing. Season 8 was rushed overall, some of the character arcs. I wonder why they didn't do their usual 10 episodes.

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Yes, well..it was too abrupt but it was the one thing that made most sense to me..like I basically said.. but most everyone else's character development went right out the window. As did every meaningful plot line.

The 2 shortened seasons are strictly on D&D..HBO wanted more episodes and more seasons..and so did the cast.

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I agree.

It wasn't as bad as everyone was saying.

It was far worse than that.

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Right, it wasn't as bad as some are saying. It was worse ...

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Is there an echo in here?

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Sometimes I guess it is, lol.

Probably we posted at the same idea at the same time.

Proof that we are in a virtual world ... a glitch in the Matrix ...

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I knew some people who watched it together from the beginning and that sounded fun, but I did have some free HBO and saw some early eps. It was interesting but I didn't find it essential. Very dour and grim and all the winter settings. Not a lot of color going on.

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It was extremely overrated and the hyperbole surrounding it was insane. The books are very good, the show had a lot of potential, but it always felt underwhelming to me. Season 1 is solid, season 2 is pretty mixed, S3 is slightly better, S4 is where the cracks really begin to show and then 5-8 were just awful. Defenders insist that it's more about "character and realkpolitik" but increasingly as it advanced the characters became thinner and more like caricatures, and the plots were often haphazardly put together. By the end, the "realism" was laughable: they turned the action scenes into something out of Marvel.

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‘Cause we are looking for verisimilitude when we watch a fantasy story.

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Seasons 1-4 were excellent and the best seasons, season 5’s first six episodes were slow but the last 4 episodes flew by, season 6 was more lively and exciting, and seasons 7 and 8 were just horrible (except for the loot train ambush and the battle of Winterfell)

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I had different reasons to dislike it, reasons I had even before the spectacularly bad ending.

It made me angry that the good guys don't get rewarded in this, and the bad guys don't get their due until long after people stop caring. In fact, everyone on this show is so flawed you're forced to just go with the "least bad" characters, rather than choose one side or the other. It seems no matter what good is done, it gets punished, while the bad people get away with being bad far longer than should be allowed. The excessive use of rape was shocking and not really something you want to see too often on a show (Outlander, I'm looking at you too). Martin seems to favor ruthless, cunning assholes over strong, noble people. The amount of incest on the show was particularly disgusting.

Both the show and the book were sorely lacking in the magic dept. I've seen far better high fantasy stories than the garbage Martin was peddling. The show was particularly bad at showing anything fantasy at all until you see Daenerys with the fossilized dragon eggs. The novels just barely hint at anything beyond mammoths and the giant Ice Wall in the north.

I think the best way to describe this entire franchise is to say it's the "anti-Lord of the Rings," because it calls itself "fantasy," but lacks all the qualities that make fantasy fun and interesting to read. Martin's a good writer, no doubt about that, but the way his stories go is very dirty, too complex, and uninspiring after a while.

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Dude.. It's not high fantasy. That's why there's not that much magic. Because it's Low Fantasy, or Mundane Fantasy as it is called.
And yes, the whole point and appeal with the books and the show is that all characters are more or less flawed and horrible people. Like real people are. Instead of that stupid black and white morality that's so common in fantasy.

Maybe you should stick to David Eddings.

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i'll never understand the complaint of something being slow. who cares, as long as it's good?

the first four seasons were some of the best TV i've ever seen. i also loved season six. season five was average.

the last two seasons were awful though. my wife and i used to watch the entire series before a new season would release. now knowing how it ends, i may ever watch it again. it may be the largest delta between best and worst seasons i've ever seen.

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Agreed. Like, word for word except I'm not married. I went from some of the best, to some of the absolute worst. Once the ball was dropped, no one was able to pick it up again.

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Pretty much how I feel. The first four seasons were solid. Then . . . .

The last season was absolutely horrid. Shame on them.

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