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Can anyone explain to me why Missandei was on a leading warship?


Instead of bringing up the rear, where it was safe? Or staying in Winterfell until the battle was over?

I don't think the writers can even give an answer to that.

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How can she be captured to make way for a shocking death scene if she's safe in Winterfell? That would be stupid. Please think like a D&D!

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Because it was in the script that she get captured and executed.

But seriously an even better question than why was she there is how was she able to get out of the sinking ship when she was below deck and an even better question is why was she the only significant character captured? That is pretty damned convenient.

The answer to all of this is pretty accurately summed up in actionkamen's response though

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Oh please - it was shit writing - she was on that ship so she could be captured.

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Well, actionkamen actually agreed with you on this. He/She just chose a funny way to say this.

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Yeah sometimes sarcasm isn't exactly obvious in text. To answer gater in a more serious tone though, the answer is honestly because the writers were writing backwards. They had particular end points in mind, in this case Missandei being executed in front of Dany by Cersie (via mountain sword). So the writers just made it happen anyway they could. Now either because they were stupid or didn't care the way it happened ended up making no sense, characters behaving stupidly and being completely devoid of logic.

The writers needed her to be on the ship so she could be capture, that is quite literally the only reason she was there and this ends up being one of many examples of the bad writing that came out of this Season.

"While Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet and Euron's forces, they certainly haven't forgot about her" - David Benioff

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> "While Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet and Euron's forces,
> they certainly haven't forgot about her" - David Benioff

Did he actually say this?????
*shockedface*

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Yup, it was in the inside the episode after episode 4. and this is the exact quote; nothing taken out of context. Their excuse for the characters behaving stupidly (specifically Dany) is they 'kind of forgot'.

On youtube there is a funny video on this. Game of thrones Season 8 pitch meeting by Screen Rant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAhKOV3nImQ

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Thank you!

I know that video but I didn’t realize that the "kinda forgot" phrase was taken from DB.
Oh Jeez.

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lol - they seemed to forget alot

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I think the most important thing that was forgotten was that D & D forgot that they needed to give a damn about finishing the show. I do not think anyone can deny they were obviously half checked out when they developed this script. Considering HBO would have approved them to give as many episodes as they needed to finish but they just wanted it done so they could move on to star wars. That is a pretty big slap in the face to the fans.

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I agree - they gave us a shit ending. They story became so illogical you couldn't enjoy it anymore - so much of it made no sense.

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That's not the big question, the big question is how all the other major cast members got to shore. Think about it, how do you get from a sinking ship that's creating downward suction, and get from there to the one tiny strip of beach within miles, without being drowned by your heavy clothing or armor, or letting the surf batter you to death on the miles of rocky seacliffs?

It was a ridiculous use of Plot Armor. Right up there with Sam being taken down by zombies 5 times over, and still surviving the battle.

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>It was a ridiculous use of Plot Armor. Right up there with Sam being taken down by zombies 5 times over, and still surviving the battle.

You are not wrong at all. It was frustrating to watch, indestructible plot armor for all characters until the exact moments the writers decided to remove it. No F'''s given to the improbability of survival within the ludicrous positions they were in, often put there through pure inconsistency of characters' intelligence and memory at the writers convenience.

It is understandable that characters needed to die at specific positions to move the plot forward but you can't throw all logic out the window about how the characters get to those specific positions. It has to be satisfying and fit in with established characters' traits (or as the result of another character's traits or motivations). The excuse for them getting to those positions cannot be, "oh they kind of forgot" or "they were being sloppy/stupid" or through impossible conveniences. These are all indication of sloppy writing rushing to get to the already decided end points.

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Very frustrating to watch, indeed.

The show used to be written for the kind of fan who could name all of the major characters' grandparents or who would kick up a fuss if the show got the length of an arrow shot wrong, and apparently before season 8 was filmed there was an executive decision to stop worrying about the details. ANY kind of details, whether related to characterization, plot continuity, physical practicalities, general probabilities, etc.

Back in the early season the show's writers would have taken the trouble to look up whether a person can swim in armor or heavy leather jerkins, or whether it's easy to swim in heavy surf near a rocky shore, but was all gone by season 8. No, wait, it they forgot to care about drowning in season 7, when Bronn and Jamie went into a deep river in full plate armor, and their failure to drown was never explained.

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>No, wait, it they forgot to care about drowning in season 7, when Bronn and Jamie went into a deep river in full plate armor, and their failure to drown was never explained.

This is a perfect example of what I am talking about. They put Jaime in a completely ludicrous position but because he was not written to die yet they just gave him an impossible escape with no care whatsoever to whether it was possible given the situation and condition, ie swimming in full plate armor.

There was no way Jaime could survive that scenario in any kind of way that would make sense given the conditions that were set, so they just lazily have him do something impossible to survive.

Rather than do the actual work of either not putting him into that position and having him and Bronn get away some other way, or have some reason why he removed his plate armor, they just didn't give a crap enough to write a coherent situation. This sloppy writing gets jarringly worse in Season 8 too.

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Your right - I forgot about that - I was fully expecting the next episode to address his death - talk about plot armor.

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Plot Armor! It looks like plate armor, but it's more effective!! And it FLOATS!!! Get yours today!!!!

Sheesh. One of the charms of the who used to be that nobody seemed to have plot armor. Not Ned Stark, not Caitlyn, not Jon himself. That feeling definitely went away some time in season 7 or 8.

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Right - we see Jamie sinking deeper and deeper, wearing armor, pulling him downward and the next episode - magically he's laying on the shore. I was hoping he was dead - the show would have been more interesting without him.

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Have you ever tried on plate armor? I haven't, but I've been the local Celtic Fair, where they let you gently fool around with antique armor and weaponry. FYI a breastplate is 10-20 pounds of heavy metal, and Jamie was wearing a breastplate over chain mail, greaves, a neckplate, arm guards, gauntlets, whatever the hell else a knight in shining armor wears. The only way a man wearing that is getting out of deep water is to walk along the bottom until he comes to a shallow grade to the shore.

Honestly, at the very least they ought to write for the sort of fan who goes to the occasional Celtic Fair.

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I think the real problem was that the writers were artists and not scientists - basic physics eluded them. That and plot armor.

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Except that they spent the earlier season eschewing Plot Armor and genre cliches, and made it all as believable as a Fantasy story with dragons and zombies could be.

And then they stopped doing that.

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right - so disappointed in how it all turned out.

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"Instead of bringing up the rear"
Rather should have brought out her rack. Agree?

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She forgot about the iron fleet

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They should rename it the Forgotten Fleet.

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lol right

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She was bringing up the rear for Grey Worm (as a meal only, obviously)

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Wasn't she a warrior? didn't Greyworm teach her how to use a spear? Oh no that didn't happen.

Why would she ever be on the front lines?? Dont ladies typically stay home until the battle is over? omg the writers must be retarded.

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