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Cut scenes in the finale

posted 5 years ago by winslow (1318)
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I've seen in a couple places now, Jorah had a different story. He doesn't die at winterfell, he stays with Dany through the burning of kings landing. He warned Dany the same way as sansa did about putting the troops back in battle so quickly. He eventually turned against Dany but didn't want her killed. In the end, he gets locked up like Tyrion and Jon.

The scene where they choose the king, Gendry joins with Yara about wanting Jon killed. Because Dany made him loyal to her in episode 4. That scene makes it more clear why Jon had to go to the wall. Jorah also gets sent to the wall, against the wishes of Bear Island.

Then Jorah becomes 1000th LC of the night's watch. Jon is a ranger, so he doesn't really spend much time at the wall. He is with the group of wildlings to help protect them from other threats besides white walkers. Like if another group like Thenns came up and went rogue, etc .

[–] TexasJack (12515) 5 years ago

Doesn’t sound right to me. Where did you see this?

[–] winslow (1318) 5 years ago

https://youtu.be/vKhh9pSDdck

It sounds like he's getting it from transcripts of cast interviews that are starting to come out.

[–] TexasJack (12515) 5 years ago

Thanks.

[–] EloraWood (158) 5 years ago

You can search for it on YouTube- there are even some reviews with some deleted scenes/fotos.

[–] TexasJack (12515) 5 years ago

Thanks.

[–] Otter (24464) 5 years ago

I've also heard rumors that during the Battle of Winterfell, there was a scene of Sansa and Tyrion running around the underground crypt fighting the risen dead.

I really wish they'd included a three-second shot of that at least, because after the episode aired fans were asking each other if the reason those two drew weapons and exchanged a fond glance was that they were ready to kill themselves. A shot of them fighting would have made things just a little more coherent.

[–] winslow (1318) 5 years ago

They cut a lot of useful stuff, I don't know why. It's not like they were restricted to a cetrain runtime.

[–] Atarimaster (442) 5 years ago

Personally, I would’ve loved to see Sansa and Tyrion fight instead of playing "duck and cover".
However, if they had fought, by now we would have about 20 postings complaining: "Hey, how can Sansa fight the wights and survive? She has no battle experience at all, she barely knows how to handle a stupid dagger, she said so herself! That’s bad writing!"
And the thing is… they’d not even be completely wrong.

Of course, you can say: "Oh, there was so much bad writing, it doesn’t even matter anymore to put that little bit on top of it."

By the way… what became of the little girl with the burned face that reminded Davos of Shireen? I think we saw here in a brief shot in the crypt but that was before the dead Starks came out of their graves. Was it revealed whether she survived or died? If so, I missed it.

[–] winslow (1318) 5 years ago

She survived because she was in the group with Sansa and Tyrion when the wights all turned to dust. She looked like she had pissed herself though.

[–] Atarimaster (442) 5 years ago

All right, didn’t see that. Thank you!

[–] Otter (24464) 5 years ago

"if they had fought, by now we would have about 20 postings complaining: "Hey, how can Sansa fight the wights and survive? She has no battle experience at all, she barely knows how to handle a stupid dagger..."

Individually, the wights aren't as formidable as a trained fighting man, and I think the wights in the Stark crypt wouldn't have been armed. I also think an obsidian dagger is more effective against them than a regular dagger would be against a human (or an orc or whatever), with a human you have to hit a vital organ to make them stop but don't the obsidian weapons "kill" if they make contact anywhere?

So yes, it might be possible for an untrained woman to take some of them out with a dagger, especially if she had nerves of steel and long arms. Because even Dany could pick up an obsidian sword off of a corpse and take a few out down on the battlefield, and she's tiny and soft and as she's never actually held a weapon until now, she might not have any more training with bladed weapons than Sansa.

[–] Atarimaster (442) 5 years ago

Hey, you’re preaching to the choir here! I said I would’ve loved to see them fight, and I didn’t say that in the hope they’d get rid of Sansa there. And yes, you’re right, I forgot that an obsidian dagger basically kills/stops/destroys the wights on CONTACT, so it IS a very powerful weapon even for the untrained.

Nonetheless the complaints would be here. It’d bet a crate of beer on this, but the trouble is, how do we check if I won or lost the bet? ;-)

By the way, I loved that Arya echoed the words "stick them with the pointed end" that Jon gave her in Season 1. :-)

[–] Otter (24464) 5 years ago

Well, maybe the scene in question was cut because it was cheesy or it sucked, but that hasn't stopped them from putting out other bad scenes this season

As for complaints... I haven't seen any complaints about soft little Dany picking up an obsidian blade and fighting for her life, but that episode generated so many complaints that maybe I missed them.

[–] bohemianroxie (2471) 5 years ago

I've heard primarily the Jorah alternate..but I think this is one of the things they got right. Jorah might've been conflicted but I don't believe he would ever turn against Daenerys. And I like the thought of Jon leaving the Night Watch to live with the Wildlings..
Not as a ranger of the Night Watch with Jorah.
It all works better with Tormund.
And the Gendry part doesn't sound like Gendry..He would turn against Arya and Davos and the slaughtering of thousands of innocence just because of a title?

I would've liked to see Sansa and Tyrion fight back to some degree..It felt weird just watching them cower and hide. They really should have included those scenes.

[–] LoveCatsHateDogs (1534) 5 years ago

Sansa should definitely cower and hide. Tyrion, maybe not.