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Daenerys's speech was kind of ridiculous...


Sure, she's been giving those type of speeches all along after her victories, but why is it that this time she suddenly staged her rally to look like one of Adolf Hitler's? And she suddenly looked like an evil queen from a Disney movie. So lame.

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Also, do you think anyone could even hear her?

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No Mic's in Westeros for big speeches:/

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All those spear-thumping Unsullied stormtroopers and howling Dothraki barbarians couldn't have helped much, either.

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TV and movies is always doing this dumb crap. It's even worse when the guy is on horse back thundering down the ranks of soldiers and yelling into the wind. Can't nobody hear that crap but us!

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...and the bit that everyone (initially) thought was so cool, where you could see the wings "sprout" from her back, was actually just D&D hitting us over the head and going "LOOK! SHE'S EVIL NOW YOU GUYZ!".

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Agreed. All I could think of was the evil queen from Sleeping Beauty turning into a dragon. This sudden face/heel turn was WAY too quick. It would have been believable stretched out over a full season or two, but to have her go from Joan of Arc to Adolf Hitler in two episodes was just farcical.

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She was Alexander the Great all along though -- consumed with the idea of ruling the world. People just wanted to believe she was different.

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She's always been evil though, it's always been about power for her she just dresses it up to look like she is saving people. It was a lame speech though. She was just always lucky that her armies were made up of blood thirsty savages who were just happy to wage war on anyone they were told to.

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In the past there was always an argument to be made that she was morally justified in her actions. This is the scene where they left no ambiguity. It was exactly like what Tyrion said, she believed she was doing the right thing because people cheered her on the whole way. Tyrion and Jon both struggled with their belief, and remained loyal "until today."

She had to do something so terrible that even they would turn against her.

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That speech was epic -- the mask finally off, it was apparent she didn't go mad, but had been planning to "liberate" the whole world all along.

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YES! This!
"Daenerys went mad/evil and it was rushed" is the new "They were dead all along" from LOST.
In the finales of boths shows, it's made abundantly clear that neither's the case, to such an extent that I can't even see how someone could watch the finale, pay attention to what people are saying, and still think this. And yet bring up LOST and nine times out of ten you'll hear "oh you mean that show where they were dead all along?", it'll appear on every "top 10 worst endings" video because they were dead all along, and on the few videos like that where it doesn't appear the comments will be littered with "Lost should be on here, they were dead all along ffs".
And then you feel obliged to explain that that's not at all the case and how/why it isn't the case and why they should stab the person who told them this.

They were not dead all along, everything that happened on the island happened in the real world while they were still alive, as explained by Christian and by the fact that the last episode clearly takes place in 2 different universes
AND
Daenerys is perfectly lucid and the same person she's always been, guided by the same philosophy, as made clear by her speech, Tyrion's convo with Jon and Jon's exchange about objective vs subjective morality with Dany.

/rant

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I never really saw any Hitlerisms till I read it all over the net. When you line up the soldiers and address them, that's what it looks like. Even right here in our military. There was nothing Third Reich about it. That's what armies look like when they stand at attention.

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Are you kidding? It was a Wagnerian spectacle. The grey, lowering sky, the black-clad stormtrooper-like Unsullied, the huge black and red Targaryen banner, Daenerys's black leather outfit and platinum blonde hair, the ruins evoking bombed out WW2 cities, the pounding weapons and the cheers... Doesn't look like any army you see anywhere other than WW2 documentaries about the 3rd Reich.

https://i.imgur.com/UelinQS.png

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IDK every army in Europe & Asia? WWII nazi footage looked a lot more like ancient Rome to me.

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I didn't like it that the speech took place in an area the show has never been before. She should have sat the Iron Throne and then made the speech in the Throne Room, the same place we saw all the other kings and Cersei make their speeches.

And there's no way a good 90% of the Unsullied much less the noisy horse-riding Dothraki even heard her.

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