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who still wants to read the final 2 books when GRRM wakes up?

posted 5 years ago by maximmm (3041)
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Because I won't bother -
frankly, I feel like GRRM is driven by greed and laziness - and the quality of the 8th season is his fault first and foremost. Yep - I lay blame at his hands, and not the producers. They did a pretty good job with his book material. He was supposed to be guiding them for the final seasons as well - but then he got greedy when hbo asked him to create several spin-offs in the same universe. Hell - I wouldn't be surprised if he was guiding the 8th season as well, and he just totally fucked up because he doesn't know how to finish the story in a coherent manner (which may also explain why he hasn't written the final 2 books).

All in all, he is seriously overextending himself with the 3 spin-offs, which makes me think those will be crap as well. The dude ain't getting any younger - and if he thinks he has enough youth and vigor to guide consecutively 3 shows at once, the 8th season tells me that he is absolutely wrong. In other words, it's likely that the 3 spin-offs will be like the 8th season from the get-go. Incoherent storylines, characters with poor development and progression, etc.

[–] Otter (24464) 5 years ago

I dont believe he'll ever finish the books.

But if I'm wrong I dont know that I'll read th hem, the last two were SO bad. If the reviewers and fans give thumbs up, maybe then.

[–] maximmm (3041) 5 years ago

I imagine the first of the last 2 will be ok, but the last one will suck arse.
I actually think season 6 and 7 weren't that bad - and I think they were based on GRRM's writings - but the ending that he has in mind, he hasn't planted enough seeds in the series for that sort of ending to come to fruiting in a coherent manner, which also explains the failure of the 8th season. Perhaps if the producers were to hire a legit writer to finish things off - even with the mad targerian arc in mind, the season could have been salvaged, but they clearly didn't - hence the wasted time in the initial 2 episodes.

[–] Bolchevik (369) 5 years ago

I will read them. There is still some unifinished business considering many stories are not in the serie. I like to think these stories would give a better final to that messy show now.

But it's been 8 years now, I'm beginning to doubt he will continue. For some kind of Reason, he doesn't seem to wish finishing the story of his life. He should. He has a moral obligation. Not to say I wouldn't like to be a writer with an unfinished artwork as my legacy.

[–] maximmm (3041) 5 years ago

I have a suspicion he spends too much of his time on the HBO series - and with spin-offs in the works, forget about the books, unless he hires a ghost writer to finish his stuff.

Also, it's possible that he simply doesn't know how to end it well - there are, as you said, more than one side-story that is in the book but not in the tv series - it all has to interconnect and conclude within 2 books, and let's not forget that he is not getting any younger. I doubt his brain functions as well as it did when he was in his youth, so it may all be too much for his fleeting brain.

His legacy is now the HBO show/s - and unfortunately for GRRM, it won't be a great legacy.
He creates worlds quite well - and comes up with fairly complex characters, but doesn't know how to end complicated plots.

[–] TearofLys (2398) 5 years ago

He should think about handing off what he has to an up and coming writer he thinks is good and can do the story justice. He is in his 70s now and given the snail's pace he went at even in his prime, I don't see him suddenly mashing down on the gas pedal now that he is in his winter years.

[–] Keelai (31867) 5 years ago

I'm hesitant about continuing the present GOT books because I want an ending. I'm up to the second and may discontinue until the last two books are published.