[SPOILER] The Season 8 Episode 2 sex scene... - Game of Thrones (2011) Discussion

[–] Obifuntoknowme (1093) 5 years ago

That being said she’s got a nice pair on her! From what we saw of them.

I bet Gendry was thinking ‘I don’t really fancy you but I’ll give you one anyway, can’t turn this down’.

The only thing is poor Arya will now be going into battle with a bloody crotch lol.

Sorry, I don’t mean to gross anyone out.

Coughlin’s law - Bury the dead they stink up the joint.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Very nice tits and arse. She does look younger than she really is though.

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[–] Obifuntoknowme (1093) 5 years ago

Pity about the face ?

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I find her cute enough.

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[–] Obifuntoknowme (1093) 5 years ago

Yes she is cute.

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[–] bohemianroxie (2471) 5 years ago

You guys are exactly why I wonder why they do these scenes. Nothing seems worse than being scrutinized in an intimate way on bits and pieces..
But how about nipples. I saw no nipples from the side..
I'm still maintaining that I saw some kind of flesh colored wrap when she first took off her top..and then from the side there were no nipples.
I don't think she really was topless.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

It's possible. Still the shape is the shape and a nice arse too.

It's to be expected given she is a little on the plainer side and is wrapped under layers of armour. It was a pleasant surprise.

By the way for you to notice a possible body suit and lack of nipples implies you scrutinized a lot more than we did ;-)

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[–] Obifuntoknowme (1093) 5 years ago

lmao, you guys are hilarious!

So regardless of tits and arses and all that, if Arya (in character) threw herself at YOU and demanded you ‘make her a woman’, would you do it ?

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[–] Geff (453) 5 years ago

No, I'm not turned on by little girls because I'm not a pedophile. Sue me.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I feel the same way Geff.

Yes, she may be 22 in real life, as I keep being told by an uppity media, but to me she looks like a child, at least in the show.

It's one of the reasons I don't find Emma Watson hot. I still think of her as 'Hermione' from Harry Potter, and it disturbs me to think that there were men of my age who were talking about how attracted they were to Watson when she was making the early Harry Potter films, and looking forward to the day when she'd be 'legal'.

Funny how men like us who are disgusted by paedophilia and prefer women who actually look like, and indeed are, women, are now the 'bad guys'.

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[–] Geff (453) 5 years ago

I get not your conclusions about Emma Watson, assuming you are considering the Harry Potter version of Emma Watson, but Emma Watson NOW looks like an adult woman.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Sure, and I see nothing wrong whatsoever with grown men fancying Beauty and the Beast era Emma Watson, although I personally find it difficult at present to separate the adult Watson from the Watson I watched growing up as a little girl on screen.

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[–] RickSantoro (98) 5 years ago

She was only a little girl for like 2 movies dude. Stop living in the past. She grew up to be incredibly hot.

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[–] bohemianroxie (2471) 5 years ago

You do realize that the term pedophile refers to sexual interest in prepubescent children, right?..That would mean children prior to puberty.
Arya is suppose to be about 18 and Maisie Williams is really about 22.
Granted, she does look young but not that young.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Paedophile/Hebephile. Whatever. It's all rather weird and suspect for a grown-man, or woman, to show any sort of sexual interest in someone still in their teens.

And Masie Williams may be 22 in real life, but she's made to look younger in the show, and she does look slightly younger than 18.

That might not make it illegal or even immoral, but for many adults it will still feel creepy, and quite frankly if we feel that way I'd say that was on balance an extremely good thing. It's the men who don't feel that way who I think we should all be keeping an eye on.

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[–] bohemianroxie (2471) 5 years ago

Yeah, I get that and that's not necessarily a bad thing. I just get a little perturbed at the misuse of the term since a true pedophile is a lot more serious and I see it tossed about too loosely these days.
As far as the scene itself..I think it makes sense for the character and helps us see her connecting with the more normal human side to herself. That is probably what a normal young person would feel on what might be their last night.

I also think in some sense they included the scene for Maisie herself who has a bit of a self image problem in looking so young and not being exactly the sexpot type and surrounded by so many that could be.. It's tough to be a young female that doesn't feel physical appealing. It was made clear that she could've elected to show nothing at all in the scene also. It was up to her.

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[–] Threadkiller (2952) 5 years ago

https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/lyapalater/we-can-all-agree-that-arya-is-a-lesbian-right#aoh=15560750007045&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s

You should drop the pretense and just be honest for once like the people at buzzfeed who aren't afraid to look rediculous expressing what their real issue is.

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[–] bohemianroxie (2471) 5 years ago

You appear to be speaking to me and I had no idea what you were referring to.
I am honest ...and I also avoid Buzzfeed.

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[–] Threadkiller (2952) 5 years ago

It was actually meant to be a reply to Malkovi if i hit the wrong button, as well as general commentary on this topic.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Now I've had time to think about the scene, I agree that its place in the episode makes perfect sense. It displayed another facet to the type of dread and sense of deadly expectation the characters in Winterfell are all feeling at present. It makes perfect sense that at least one character would be thinking 'this might be the last opportunity I have to experience sex before I die', and it's clear that there has always been a degree of affection between Arya and Gendry, although I must admit that I always thought it was more like sibling/close friend affection than sexual love per se (then again, at that age the two types of love can often be confusing). But out of interest, what is the age gap between Arya and Gendry?

I guess the scene didn't register so positively at the time because I was so affected and moved by everything else happening in the episode, and the more platonic displays of affection between characters like Jaime and Brienne, Sansa and Theon, and Grey Worm and Missandei, speaking as someone who is not quite asexual but doesn't place as big an emphasis on the importance of sex as many might.

But speaking of Masie, from what I've read, her initial response to the suggestion that she'd be getting this love scene was to laugh, as if it were a joke.

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[–] Threadkiller (2952) 5 years ago

It's what a number of people have done to generate "controversy" over this. They realize that on its face their true misgivings would come off as petty & childish & thus undermining credibility. Unlike the people at buzzfeed who weren't concerned about credibility.

Enter the need to disingenuously concoct & project something negative, even pedophilic(Wouldn't be the first time Malky) onto perhaps the most natural & consenting, not to mention tamest love scene between two adults we have seen in this series.

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[–] bohemianroxie (2471) 5 years ago

Yes, I'm sure Maisie never thought they'd write her such a scene...and evidently
creators David Benioff and D.B. Weiss have a history of pranking the cast with fake scenes.
And no,..it wasn't as touching as the scenes you mentioned or even Davos and Gilly with the girl reminiscent of Shireen or Jorah and Sam or even Arya and the Hound. But I felt it was realistic..And it was good to see Ayra interested in something besides killing for a change.

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[–] RickSantoro (98) 5 years ago

Probably, who wouldn't? And I don't even find her all that attractive.

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[–] ShogunofYonkers (71626) 5 years ago

I didn't like it either
The actress just appears too young and has been the 'little sis' of the story, despite her various trials, for years now

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

That's how I initially felt. Plus, it was the one of the few scenes in this rather good episode that didn't especially affect me.

But now I've seen the episode twice and had an opportunity to digest other people's thoughts on it, I am coming around to the conceit, and I wonder if it may have registered more strongly with teenagers, particularly teenage girls, experiencing sex for the first time around now. I also think it showed another, perfectly valid, reaction to the imminent and potentially apocalyptic dread being felt around Winterfell. It stands to reason that some people would want to experience, what is potentially their last night in Westeros, having sex.

That said, I did feel uncomfortable about the display of nudity here, just as, to be clear, I do about the egregious displays of nudity we see elsewhere on the show. For the most part, it's unnecessary and doesn't add anything to the show, other than I guess some titillation for a few pervs.

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[–] ShogunofYonkers (71626) 5 years ago

Perfect timing...you posted this just as I was reading your exchange with another poster

I do see your point, Arya is a young woman and so sex is probably something she wonders about...
I just feel like she's such an innocent (multiple murders aside!) character that it was weird to watch

Anyway, your point about death hanging over all of Winterfell is appreciated...people have been known to get busy in the face of doom

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[–] bohemianroxie (2471) 5 years ago

Titillation? I don't see how GOT could rank high with that with anyone except adolescent boys.

I get not being onboard for Arya's transition to adult scene but check out especially season one and see what made me a lot more uncomfortable.
I don't think there was one sex scene or nude scene that didn't somehow involve female subjugation (excluding male gay scenes).
From Theons contempt for a plainer working girl (and women in general) to Littlefinger's women simulating loudly in the background to naked Daernerys being scrutinized by her pervy brother or being handed over to be raped by the primitive Khal..And I think season 2 was only marginally better in that regard.
And wasn't Robyn about 12 and still at his Mom's breasts?

But when Robb, Jon, Tyrion and Daernerys finally had real relationships the sex scenes did improve immensely although they're always so obligatory by now that they're hardly erotic. It's HBO though. They must have them..

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[–] whynotwriteme (7120) 5 years ago

Would have been weirder if Beric had not showed up when she was talking to The Hound. I think he was her first choice, actually, until Beric crashed the party.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

LOL!

That's a creepy thought.

But you're right. She only left The Hound after Beric arrived, and it did seem that she was trying to solicit more from The Hound, although whether it was sex, I don't know.

To his credit, I don't think The Hound would have been interested. He would have curtly and rudely dismissed her.

The Hound may be a lot of things, but he isn't a perv.

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[–] RickSantoro (98) 5 years ago

How would banging her make him a perv?

But I don't think he would do it anyway. She's kind of like a daughter to him maybe

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[–] Bolchevik (369) 5 years ago

The episode was so boring I felt asleep but she's not very attractive anyway so I Don't care too much.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I don't know why there was such an outcry about this scene.

Doesn't anyone remember Cersei asking a 13 year old Sansa whether she had started ovulating yet, during the very first episode?

GOT is set in the Middle Ages, where the concept of paedophilia didn't exist. Besides, Arya is now 18 years old - a late bloomer in those times but, by modern standards, still legal.

People really need to stop expecting period set shows/films to align with modern (PC) attitudes and morals. I mean, seriously, get a grip!

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