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Did D&D ever apologize for their treatment of Stannis?


One of the biggest bastardizations I've ever seen of a book character. On any medium.

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Yeah he was way better in the books!
We dont know if book Stannis will turn out to be a big dumbass daughter-murdering loser as well...and we probably never will

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No, he was an awful person in the books as well as the TV show, he just didn't get as far as burning the poor kid, because the books ended with him still stuck in the snow wondering what the hell to do.
The man in the books was just as horrible as the man on TV: mean, small-minded, stubborn, incapable of compromise, jealous, indifferent to human life, a damn fool who'd do anything his pet witch told him, and someone who'd obviously be a terrible king.

I don't know why some people are so nuts about him, he really was mean and stupid. Maybe it's because he talked so much about duty and morality, but IMHO he had no real understanding of right and wrong.

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He certainly was not a cool guy by any stretch in the books...dickish, cruel, unmerciful
He was (in his mind) honor and duty bound and willing to perish with his army to obtain his right and destiny and i can respect that
He made a great dramatic character
I just hated the burning of the little daughter in the show...made me totally despise a man i was luke-warm on otherwise

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Yeah, Otter is definitely in the D&D mold. I've seen him in other threads post about how Stannis would have made a worse king than nearly anyone. Which is, of course, significantly debatable.

Stannis is heavily flawed but eminently fascinating. Whether or not I or others are "nuts" about him is not germane to this topic. I just think he deserved better than what the show gave him.

This summarizes Stannis vs TV Stannis pretty well:

http://i.imgur.com/KmmkAR1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/B57apCI.jpg

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The thing is, you can't defend Book Stannis on the grounds that he didn't burn the poor sprat, because we haven't had a chance to see how he dealth with being snowbound and starving in the end. We can't say that he wasn't willing to burn his own little girl, we can only say for sure that he was wasn't willing to burn his own flesh and blood... yet.

As for people who are "nuts" about him, I haven't seen any here, but there were a bunch over on the old IMDB board who called him "Stannis the Mannis" and raved about how awesome he was. They worried me, because yes, Stannis's inability to see anyone's POV but his own would have made him a very bad king.

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If that is the biggest bastardization of a book character into a television character that you've ever seen...then it is obvious you do not read very much. Television stannis was pretty faithful to the books description with physical attributes being where they strayed the furthest.

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I agree for the most part, but the actor did a fine job with what he had to work with.

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Agreed. Stannis' actor was excellent, the moment I saw him appear in Season 2, after reading A Clash of Kings, I realized he was the person I pictured while reading.

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His character was important to the show. He had the best "last lines" of anyone in the show. "Do your duty". He had an awesome scene where he drew his sword against the Bolton Calvary. He had an awesome scene at the battle of blackwater bay. And another one north of the wall. When you look at a Baratheon banner you know what that means. That was his character's function on the show. They did a good job considering the public's obsession with cersei and danaerys. I mean, I'm a pretty big fan of this show and I can't muster any feelings towards the tyrell sigil, so I'd say they represented the baratheons reasonably well on this show.

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Heh. As if they had a duty to be faithful to your vision of Stannis.

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Teary eyed nerdvirgin post ^

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Stannis was amazing in the show. My fav character together with Jon Snow.

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