Umm..the first didnt do to well


I don t know if you relised but the first didnt do to well at the box office.Will this mean that it will go staright to dvd rather than be at the movies?

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Well as the release date is 2009 you will have to wait a while to get an answer. Anyway my kids loved this movie and i'm sure they'll want to go see it at the movies if possible. And i'm a big Luc Besson fan so i'm happy to go to the movies too.

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In Europe the movie was a big hit. When it was dubbed for the American audience, the film fell apart. Luc Besson himself hated the American dubbed version of his film.

Because the movie did excellent all over Europe he decided to make sequels for the film. The sequels will be in theaters in France and other European countries, but I'm not to sure about America.

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But Besson supervised the American dub.

That being said, watching the film I can totally feel the tampering ooze of the Weinsteins all over it. Whether they made it better or worse who's to say.



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He also admitted that the Weinsteins company was the worst company to work with. So, something must have happened there.

Why else would it do so well in Europe and the rest of the world, but do so badly in the States? It's obvious that the European version is much better.

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Luc Besson supervised the English dub (casting pop stars such as David Bowie as the Minimoys) but that version was then re-edited by the Weinsteins much to Besson's annoyance.

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It failed in the US, mainly to the cuts made by the Weistein company.

they cut 10 minutes, and half the story, becuase they tough it was not apropiated of US kids.

So the did not see, the kiss and marriage between Arthur and the princes. So the second movie asumes that Arthur is king of the minimoys, and is returning to search his wife...

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Yes..

Betameche explains to a suprised Arthur, that is the minimoys way of marrying... and Withouth ceremonies.. :)

when he complains that a celebration would be fine, malthazard son offers todo a most unwelcome party....

Anyway.. it was a sweet scene but it was cut in the US edition.

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It failed in the US, mainly to the cuts made by the Weistein company.

they cut 10 minutes, and half the story, becuase they tough it was not apropiated of US kids.

So the did not see, the kiss and marriage between Arthur and the princes. So the second movie asumes that Arthur is king of the minimoys, and is returning to search his wife...


how would an extra creepy love story between madonna and a child be an improvement in an already creepy film. the weinsteins are not folks i'd normally defend, but in this case, they couldnt damage what was already messed up. they got rid of the creepy relationship, and that was not a big deal. If that was half the story, there is your problem...the story was junk.

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What are you on about? You do realize that what you typed shows complete idiocy, don't you? First, there was absolutely NO creepy love story between Madonna and a child. That love story was between Arthur and Princess Selenia. Second, there was absolutely NOTHING messed up about the relationship in the film. ONLY a complete moron would say there was. Third, it is widely accepted that the Weinsteins are the ones who messed up the film with their cuts. The evidence is in how well the film did in Europe compared to how poorly it did here in the US. The love story was half the story, but that was NOT the problem. The ONLY story that was junk was the Weinstein version of the story, which cut the entire relationship and 10 minutes from the film.

As a final note, how crazy are you to actually think the love story between Arthur and Princess Selenia was creepy? Only a complete idiot would find it creepy.


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yea sure you can bend over backwards to defend trash, the numbers speak for themselves, that no one bothered to show up for the sequels to the point where they can't even get released anymore shows how out of touch you are.

The entire enterprise is creepy, that you can't see this shows why you don't understand why it failed.

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The one who's out of touch here is you. Were you not paying attention when I said it did well overseas because the Weinsteins didn't touch it overseas? Talk about being out of touch. The ONLY reason it didn't work in the US is because the Weinsteins cut 10 very important minutes of it. Overseas, it brought in almost $93 million, which is very good for the minor animation that it is. The ONLY reason the sequels didn't get released in the US is because of the poor showing of the first film in the US. The ONLY reason the first film had a poor showing in the US is because of the cuts made by the Weinstein brothers. These are undeniable facts ONLY a complete moron, which you obviously are, would deny. The last two films were already released in overseas markets, so your statement that no one bothered to show up for the sequels is flat out false. Heck, of the foreign markets Box Office Mojo recorded, which obviously is only a portion of foreign markets reporting, the second film has so far brought in just over $21 million and the third film has so far brought in just over $30 million. Look at the numbers from France, too, if you don't believe me.

Also, there is NOTHING creepy about the enterprise. The fact you can't see that shows why you don't understand why it worked in foreign markets, where the Weinsteins did NOT touch it, and why it didn't work in the US, where the Weinsteins did touch it. Even Luc Besson blames the Weinsteins for its failure in the US.

You're right on one thing, however. The numbers do speak for themselves, and since the numbers prove the film was a success overseas, if the Weinsteins kept the idiotic hand off of it in the US, it would have been a success over here, as well. You might want to take an actual look at those numbers, you know, because they prove you completely wrong. Try again, and quit being so foolish.


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look i'm not arguing with you anymore, the overseas numbers prove one thing, you can be fooled once.

if the film were so wonderful it would have done bank in foreign markets the second and third time around, instead it was a total joke.

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It DID bank in foreign markets the second and third time around. The second and third time around, it still did pretty well as far as minor animated sequels go. Did you even check the numbers? Here are the Box Office Mojo links for some of the foreign takes of the second and third films. A little note for you, these are NOT grand totals because not every market is included in these numbers. Still, though, they certainly prove you wrong.

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/intl/?page=&country=00&wk=2010 W9&id=_fARTHURETLAVENGEA02
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/intl/?page=&country=R2&wk=2010 W43&id=_fARTHURETLAGUERRE01

Hey, no need to argue. Especially when you are obviously too stupid to even understand what you're even talking about. The film did well in Europe. All 3 films did well in Europe where minor animated films, which they were, are concerned. It did as well as Besson expected it to. Whether your ignorant, idiotic notions permit you to like it or not, ALL 3 films did well enough where they were actually made. You are the fool thinking they didn't do well. Those who actually worked on the film believe they did well enough. In overseas territories, it was NOT a total joke at all, EVER. It was a total joke ONLY in the US, and that was ONLY because of the cuts of the Weinstein brothers. These are undeniable facts that nearly everyone, including Luc Besson himself, agree on. Idiots like you are another key reason the first film failed over here. Idiots like you see some kind of nonexistent creep factor in Arthur falling in love with Princess Selenia. A little news flash for you, but they were the same EXACT age in the film. Princes Selenia was what is equivalent to 10 years of age for a human in the film, which was how old Arthur was supposed to be, as well. There is NOTHING creepy there. ONLY a simple moron like yourself would find falling in love creepy, idiot. One has to wonder what you think of other films with young people falling in love, like say Little Manhattan as well as many others. You probably find that film creepy too, don't you? Not everyone is afraid of love like you apparently are, idiot.


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You've clearly lost the plot.

part 2 failed.
part 3 failed even harder.

that is the level of good will this film built up.

sorry if reality is not to your liking.

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Hate to break it to you, but I've provided undeniable proof that parts 2 and 3 did NOT fail whatsoever. Did you even check the links I've provided? Heck, part 3 is currently doing better than part 2, and the numbers I've provided aren't even complete. Sorry, moron, but reality is not to your liking. Seriously, how stupid are you? I proved to you reality is in my favor. I proved to you that the 2nd and 3rd films did well enough overseas and you still think they failed. What kind of an ignorant moron are you denying the undeniable evidence I've provided? Seriously, grow up moron and get a brain. Your denial of reality is idiotic. I've never met anyone as stupid as you, fool. I mean, you are denying the evidence I provided from Box Office Mojo, which has been tracking stuff like this for a while.

Reality not to my liking? I don't know what you've been smoking, moron, but reality COMPLETELY and UTTERLY agrees with me. You are obviously not in tune with reality yourself with your COMPLETE and UTTER idiocy.


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Lol i don't even have to say anything more, your posts damn themselves.

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So you really are a stupid moron, then. FYI, the only person's posts who damn themselves are yours. I provided proof that the 2nd and 3rd films sold in Europe, yet you deny them. Now, you think my posts make me look bad when my posts prove you wrong. How stupid can a person be? I will provide those links again for you or anyone else who cares to see who REALLY is the stupid one here. Here they are.

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/intl/?page=&country=00&wk=2010 W9&id=_fARTHURETLAVENGEA02
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/intl/?page=&country=R2&wk=2010 W43&id=_fARTHURETLAGUERRE01

Again, these links prove you wrong, moron. Of course, you don't need to say anything more. You made yourself look like a complete idiot. Good job, imbecile. I will put the next few sentences in all caps just to emphasize to you an undeniable fact. SINCE THE EVIDENCE I PROVIDED PROVES BEYOND ANY DOUBT WHATSOEVER THAT THE 2ND AND 3RD FILMS DID WELL IN EUROPE AND SINCE JUST ABOUT EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE MAKING OF ALL 3 FILMS, INCLUDING LUC BESSON WHO CREATED THE SERIES, AGREE THAT THE FILMS DID WELL IN EUROPE, THE FILMS DID WELL, PERIOD. ANY DENIAL OF THAT UNDENIABLE FACT IS RIDICULOUS AND SHOWS YOU TO BE NOTHING BUT A VERY IDIOTIC IMBECILE INDEED. GOOD JOB MAKING YOURSELF LOOK LIKE A MORON, KID. Maybe you ought to grow up and learn what undeniable facts are, moron. Or maybe you just like to keep damning yourself with your proven idiotic posts. Is that what you like to waste your time on, making yourself look like a stupid ignoramus who just loves to post completely imbecilic and nonsensical messages that go COMPLETELY AGAINST reality and established facts on an internet message board?


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Lol hysterical poster, get a grip, each film made progressively less money, each lost money based on production budget based on boxoffice take.

The only thing that is ridiculous is you.

The reality is that the films were failures, and the only defenders are folks like you, and that says it all.

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No. Actually, the only thing that is ridiculous here is you. Tell me, how much did the last two films cost to make, moron? I didn't provide those numbers because I really don't know the costs of the last 2 films, and I seriously doubt you know what those costs are, either, moron. By the way, according to the numbers I actually did provide, the 3rd film is doing better than the 2nd. So much for your each film made progressively less money lie, idiot.

The reality is that the films were NOT failures. The sites I've provided prove that the films were NOT failures where they actually matter. Heck, those behind the films, including Luc Besson who wrote and directed the films, even agree that the films weren't failures. The ONLY person who says the films were a failure is you. All caps again so pay attention. EVERYTHING, REALITY, THEIR BOX OFFICE NUMBERS IN EUROPE, THE VOICES OF THOSE WHO ACTUALLY MADE THE FILM ALL PROVE THAT THE FILMS WERE NOT FAILURES WHERE THE FILMS ACTUALLY MATTER. THE ONLY PERSON CALLING THE FILMS A FAILURE IS YOU. REALITY ITSELF PROVES YOU WRONG, MORON, SO GET OVER IT. The reality is that the films were NOT failures whatsoever where it matters to those who made the films. EVERYTHING proves you wrong. How are you seriously this stupid? How old are you? You cannot seriously be this idiotic. I've met 2 year olds more intelligent than you, for crying out loud.

Again, REALITY itself proves you wrong. According to something called REALITY the films did NOT fail whatsoever in Europe. Your ignorance of reality is astounding. Go back to you rock, idiot, because it is clear you do NOT know what reality is.


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Look, you can enjoy your own personal hell alone.

I'm done with you.

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OK. Whatever. Good bye. At least I'll be living in reality. You know, the reality you've been completely ignoring. I don't really want to be where you are, anyway. I mean, you ignore what reality and facts prove beyond any doubt, and you find it creepy when 2 people fall in love. Why would I, or anyone in the right mind for that matter, want to be where you are? The ONLY one living in hell is you because EVERYTHING proves you wrong and you can't seem to get it.

Good bye and good riddance, imbecile. At least I didn't make myself look like a foolish idiot like you did.


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I'm in the U.S. I liked the first film, but it was flawed, in my opinion, and I can easily see why most folks liked it less than I did.

The flaws had absolutely nothing to do with the cuts. I've read about the cuts in detail, and putting the cut scenes back into the film would do nothing to address the script problems, which all arise because Besson was trying to cram 400+ pages of story into a 90 minute film, with the upshot that everything is far too sketchy and random-feeling, motivations and justifications for characters knowing information, knowing just what to do to solve problems, etc. frequently didn't exist in the script, the fact that the Minimoys could so easily pop up outside and interact with the human world was incoherent with the idea that they were a complete mystery in what's essentially another realm, Besson pulled the rug out from his own story--the motivation for Arthur to find the treasure in the first place (to save his family's property), by layering an independent dilemma on top of it so that that became the focus instead, and all kind of other problems.


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