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this show is 100% fake(albeit, rather entertaining). there is not one police station ANYWHERE that would give celebrities, or anyone for that matter, a loaded weapon with minimal training. there is no way they would be able to insure that. the tazer training was FAKE. i've been tazered, and you don't act like that. and the firearm training? they were no more than 6 feet away from the target. are you kidding me? what if latoya or wee-man got shot? or what if they overreacted and shot someone? and all the situations seem staged, whether it is actual crimes being committed, and after their arrest, they let the celebrites re-"arrest" them, or the crimes themselves are staged. i mean, come on, the first bust that latoya had to do with that large man? no way she would be able to subdue him. and wee-man? who would listen to him? you could just kick him the head. or easily outrun him.

but, the show is funny as hell.

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Believe what you will, but it's simply not staged.

But what would I know...I mean you're 100% positive!


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It's not fake. Sure, some things are embelished to make it more interesting, but these celebrities were given real guns and actually roamed the streets of Muncie. Unless you live there, you can't really be "100% positive" that it's fake, can you?

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Small problem: You never have to talk to the cops. Even if you are under arrest. As a matter of fact on another thread in this board (about miranda rights) states: You have the right to remain silent.

You never have to speak to a police officer.

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You must be retarded if you can't tell it's fake.

The acting of the "criminals" is really bad and obvious!

But the one that definetively proves it is this:

Every situation is shown from atleast 6 camera angles, switching from one to another, continuosly.

Some of the shots would have shown the other cameras, but it doesn't, so that means they shot the same scenes many times.

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Of course it's fake. It's pretty obvious that a lot of people on this board have never held or fired a weapon before. I'm a military police officer, and firing guns is not like on TV or movies. You can't just pick one up and know how. It takes months of training for even the most basic civilian self defense methods. And for actual police weapons training, years. Not to mention that the insurance liability would be through the roof. There is no way a real police department would give untrained, un-sworn people, especially celebrities, access to real weapons. It's just not possible. Go ahead and watch the show. Enjoy it. TV is meant to suspend reality for entertainment. Just don't go around thinking that it's OK to give any idiot a gun, stick them in front of a camera, and let them have at it. Not in the real world.

Ask yourself this, what happens if one of these celebrities actually shot someone? Since they are not sworn law enforcement officers, and do not have the proper training, you can expect not only criminal charges, but a plethora of wrongful death charges from the families. That would also cost the network millions of dollars, and the local police department could be held liable by the state.

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>>Since they are not sworn law enforcement officers, and do not have the proper training<<

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I agree with most of what you say, and I have some real questions about their qualifying BUT the show "claims" that this fact is part of the show, that these celebrities DID go through actual police training and DID pass all the qualifications and DID become real, sworn officers.

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Yeah...actually I have fired a gun, and although it wasn't a picnic, I got the hang of it pretty quickly. I had a decent coach, and after awhile I had a lot of fun and I did pretty well hitting the target.

They went through more training than was actually on the camera. And I'm not saying there are actually bullets in the guns they are carrying. If you notice, when Jack Osborne was chasing down a murder suspect, when push came to shove and it was actually a semi-crutial part of the chase, he stayed back. Why? Because he wasn't prepared, and hadn't been trained as much as other officers, so he stayed back. He wasn't on the front lines, he chilled back behind. What happened when Trish was going after that guy who broke through a screen door? She was all over that, but the moment the cop holding him started losing his grip a bit, another officer jumped in there from off-camera. Trish backed away.

Are the crimes staged? No, they're not. They truly are not. Is it possible they're not carrying loaded guns? Yeah, it's likely. Are there backup police standing just off camera waiting to pounce if they need be? Yeah, of course. But the crimes themselves are not staged, and the criminals are not actors. I think that's what most of the people are asking when it comes to the question of "is it staged?" I don't think anyone honestly thought they were doing it all by themselves. The question is are the crimes staged and are the criminals real or actors.

Are the "off-the-job" parts of the show staged? (LaToya grocery shopping, the laundromat, Sunshine Cafe, etc,) yes. Those things are planned out in advance. I don't know how far they had to twist LaToya's arm to act like an idiot though...that part was possibly natural.

But are the actual crime scenes staged? No, they're not.


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>>I don't know how far they had to twist LaToya's arm to act like an idiot though...that part was possibly natural.<<


ROTFLMAO!!

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not fake at all. it's shot in muncie and i of all people should know it's not fake i got a 90 dollar ticket from wee man of all people weeman gave me a ticket no autograph and i had to tell my mom. yeah and they trained for a while and um cops don't take a whole long period of time it's very condensed because i'm a cj major and twice a week we have cops coming in for lectures so thanks very much and you can shoe it. cause i also had a party busted up by jack so shove it.

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You might want to take an English class and figure out what a run-on sentence is.

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Here's the deal. In Indiana to be a full time police officer one must pass a 15 week basic academy that is certfied by the Law Enforcement Training Board. There are a number of different ways that one can be a Law Enforcement Officer without being a full time officer.

1) A Town Marshal - In Indiana, any department that consists of only the Marshal and not more than TWO deputies. The academy training for a Marshal is an 8 week course that coincides with various facets of the regular academy (i.e. firearms, emergency vehicle operations, defensive tactics, traffic and criminal law, etc.).

2) Reserve Police Officers - A reserve is any police officer who is not paid for his/her services. Reserves are only required, by state statute, to go through a 40 HOUR pre-basic course in which they are required to demonstrate firearms proficiency, an introduction to police work and emergency vehicle operations. After the conclusion of the "pre-basic" course, one may continue to work as a reserve officer.

3) Sworn, but not academy certified - A police officer who is paid to work and who has attended the 40 hour pre-basic course. A paid officer has one year from the date of appointment to attain academy certification. In plain terms - a paid officer can go through pre-basic and then work for one year for that department. If he wishes to be employed longer than one year he MUST be academy certified.



As for the comments about the firearms training. Here is the Indiana Law Enforcement Academy Qualification course of fire that must be passed to work as a LEO in Indiana.

240 Point course - 48 shots, 4 stages of fire. Standard B-27 silhouette target. Anything that MISSES the silhouette completely is a 5 point deduction. Anything ON the silhouette but completely outside the 7 ring is a 2 point deuction. Anything completely inside the 7 ring is a 1 point deduction. Anything from the 8 ring in counts as a hit. An officer must score a minimum of 192 three consecutive times before being allowed to work IN ANY position as a police officer in the state of Indiana.

3 yard line - six shots fired in two shot bursts, standing, strong handed, below eye level. Targets face and the shooter has 3 seconds to shoot both shots. This continues for 3 times which = six shots. Then the shooter has 10 seconds to switch to his weak hand and the process repeats itself, six shots, two shot bursts, 3 seconds to shoot.

7 yard line - 12 shots, two handed point shoulder shooting below eye level, stading fire. 20 seconds to fire all shots.

15 yard line - 12 shot, two handed point shoulder shooting, 6 standing and 6 kneeling. 25 second time limit.

25 yard line - 6 shots two handed point shoulder from the weak side of an upright baracade. 6 shots two handed point shoulder from the strong side of an upright baracade. Shooter has 50 seconds to fire all 12 shots.


The cast of Armed and Famous HAD to achieve this same standard or they are not LEGALLY able to use ANY police power in the state of Indiana. Therefore, it can be surmised that the cast at the very least met this qualification standard with their duty firearm and duty ammo.

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This is what I was gonna point out. My dad used to be a cop, and he told me that they most likely just went through the minimum amount of training that it takes to become a reserve police officer, which enables you to ride along.

"It's better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for you what you are not."

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The minimum amount of training, in Indiana, would allow them to go out on solo patrol, not just ride along. After going through the 40 hour pre-basic some departments...mostly small town or rural county sheriff's departments will put a reserve officer out on the road taking radio calls.

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I was born and raised and still live in Muncie and I can assure you that none of it is staged. They started filming after Thanks Giving and just left last Thursday. Since even before they started filming all the way up until last Thursday something Armed and Famous related has been on the front page of The Star Press (Muncie's local newspaper). Some people were offered a little bit of money or a t-shirt to sign a release form so their face could be shown on the show but that’s all. Its definitely not staged. Click on the link to the star press site and read all the Armed and Falous related stories then you'll see that its not fake.

http://search.thestarpress.com/sp?aff=100&keywords=armed+and+famous

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I dig that

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i like to belive that its real and they just have people off to the side. but it seems odd that there was that much activity that first night. I think maybe they condensed it so that it seemed like it was all one night. another concern is that they don't blur most of the faces which would mean that they need to sign release forum. I'd think that they'd have a few people who would refuse to sign one but maybe they really wanted to be on tv lol

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As a police officer, I say you are all fools. This show is sooooo edited, we can't tell what's real or not. So as for what these guys are doing, arrest, and investigation of crimes, I have not seen anything that raises suspicion. As for the Taser training, everyone, I mean EVERYONE reacts to it different. I cursed, others FREAK out, while others act like it's the worst thing that has ever happened to them. Then some say, it didn't hurt at all. Don't be silly. I'v been shocked TWICE, and it's effected me diff. both times.

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Well when they "Tased" the stars, there was no cartridge in the taser, and therefore no way for the electricity to make it into their bodies. *beep* acting.

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i'm from muncie... it's amazing who they have let be a reserve officer in that town... my vote NOT FAKE

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It's not fake.

And so far Wee-Man, Jack Osbourne, And Latoya Jackson are doing a pretty good job. I would totally trust them to work for my PD.

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Just as a view from the cop do you think it was right for disorderly conduct. Because it seems that it was clear she was not the shoplifter.

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That was so chopped up, and her language was edited soooo much that I can't say yes or no. In my state, yes, you could be arrest/cited for cursing and causing a big disruption in public like that. So it's very possible, she could have went off on Wee-Man in public, and got herself locked up.



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lol no its not fake, maybe a bit overdramatized but every run they are called on is real, i live in muncie my dads a fireman, and my uncle is a cop, i work at the roadhouse the restaurant where latoya wanted a tablecloth, and i was actually pulled over by trish stratus for having a license plate light out, none of its fake of course there acting going on, they are all just reserve officers that went through the basic course.

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not fake...i go to school close to muncie and i was at a party in muncie a few months ago and there were reports of celebrities like wee man going in and busting parties...at the time it made no sense...now i completely understand

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Skiceless,
Where do you live? I live in Indiana south of Muncie and I've seen the news report on it and they were talking about how the people of Muncie think it will be a negative output on their city at first. Yes everything you see is real and if they did it in your town or Blmingtn then you would probably see your friends from IU if you have any that go there!

Go Colts!

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The only part I saw was the tazoring and can someone tell me the why the men holding them werent electricuted- also have you ever seen someone tazored, they practically fall on the ground and go through convultions and all one celebrity did was get on her knees and say ohhhhh.

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The way a TASER works is very simple. The entire body does NOT become instanly electrified. There are two probes on a taser that expand out, a good shot will expand about from the shoulder blade on one side of the body to the hip on the opposite side of the body. The current runs from probe to probe completing the circut. If the people holding them are OUTSIDE the circut (i.e. holding the arms) they WILL NOT be shocked. If they were to touch ANYWHERE in between the two probes...they would be. That's the reason a TASER is so effective...you can be tasering somebody while your partner is cuffing him, or doing a wrist lock, etc.

People respond to a TASER in many different ways, some fall to the ground, others scream, others grunt, some flop around like a fish out of water. With people on both sides of you holding you up its quite easy to stay upright. The TASER doesn't make you fall down, it's your bodies reaction to it that makes you fall. Therefore when the body goes into it's limp mode, if there are people holding onto the sides of you, it's possible for you not to go to the ground.

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Again, you can't "shoot" someone with a Taser from 8 feet away without having a freaking cartridge in the thing.

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This show is very entertaining and funny.



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