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To those who say the US Gov would never stage terrorist attacks!


Here is a report on Operation Northwoods on the ABC News website, surprisingly. It came out in May, 2001, before 9/11. The first paragraph below is shocking and horrifying. Now those who say that the US government would never carry out terrorist attacks on its own citizens can shut the *beep* up.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.

The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro.

America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."


The rest of the article explains how these documents were leaked accidentally by the White House when they were meant to be destroyed.

Really sickening. The officials who drafted these plans are really really really sick and deserve to burn in hell.

Wikipedia has an entry on this too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods


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Northwood was never carried out. And it didn't involve anyone getting killed.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

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Northwood was never carried out. And it didn't involve anyone getting killed.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/


Dude, it was carried out in the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. How could you be so misinformed.

Let me ask you this:

If I drafted up a serious plan to kill you, but the plan was not carried out, does that mean that I am INCAPABLE of killing you?

I don't think so.

Would you consider a man who drafted a plan to kill you, but wasn't carried out, to be incapable of harming you? LOL Would you feel safe around him? LOL

You guys are like religious fanatics.

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Dude, it was carried out in the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. How could you be so misinformed.

Uh "Dude", Operations Northwoods was about rallying support against Cuba. The Gulf of Tonkin is nowhere near Cuba.

I know what you're saying. But in this incident, there were two attacks. The first one happened, the second one didn't. And it happened because Robert McNamara didn't inform LBJ of everything that happened.

Just because McNamara manipulated the situation doesn't mean the United States makes it their foreign policy to engage in false flag events.

If I drafted up a serious plan to kill you, but the plan was not carried out, does that mean that I am INCAPABLE of killing you?

Let me ask YOU this: if you draw up a plan to kill me and 40 YEARS later I die, does that mean YOU killed me? No, it doesn't.

Would you consider a man who drafted a plan to kill you, but wasn't carried out, to be incapable of harming you? LOL Would you feel safe around him? LOL

One man drew up Northwoods. He left his position afterwards. If Lyman Lemnitzer was a member of AAA, would you always be afraid that someone in AAA would kill you?



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Dude, it was carried out in the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. How could you be so misinformed.

It's YOU who's misinformed. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was REAL!
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-m/dd731-k.htm
BTW, Operation Northwoods was never going to involve the killing of any Americans.



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And yes Operation Northwoods WAS supposed to kill Americans, you'd know this if you ACTUALLY READ THE PAPER instead of just TALKING about it. (would you like a link to it?)

I've read it many times. No American lives were to be lost. Please show me a document that says there were.



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THE document says so dumbass.

It does not. You offered a link earlier, please provide one.


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Here's your link CKent the sheeple

Stewie, how about showing me in the document where it says American lives are to be lost. That's what this is about.


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1) you've seen it

Yes, and no where does it say American lives are to be lost. In fact, NO lives necessarily were to be lost at all in the plan.

2) so it IS only American lives you are concerned with. RACIST.

How am I a racist? Since when is being American a race? Ah, probably the same world where steel is an element.



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As I said, just because it didn't say "LET KILL PEOPLE" doesn' mean that the terrorist acts proposed would NOT have killed anyone jackass.

Doesn't mean they would have either. The intent was the destruction of property and the spread of fear.

as previously posted and i guess ignored by you which is why you bring it up again...
OPERATION NORTHWOODS: We could sink a boatload of Cubans enroute to Florida (real or simulated).


I read it, you obviously ignored the "simulated" part. No one necessarily would have died in the plan.

Hmm strange, I actually said that you stressing you believed no AMERICAN lives would be lost so it didn't matter, meaens you don't crae innocent Cubans would have been killed. Saying cubans arer lesser people makes you a racist.

I certainly would hope no lives would be lost. I think I made that obvious. And since the plan didn't go through, no one did. And please show me where I said Cubans are lesser people. Please don't put words in my mouth. I, unlike you, am not throwing insults around here. It really shows what a weak argument you have to keep making up straw men.

Great, you know you arer wrong so you refer to an old comment that was set up as an obvious trick to trap a fake researcher, brought up by a fake scientist

Dude, get over it. You referred to steel as an element. You did.




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OWNED. Clownboy- 2 Defender sheeples-0

From Stewie, the biggest coward and dodger on IMDB!!!

How about you stop running from Bulletcatcher and tell him why you've been too scared to respond to his comments?



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) yes it does, that's what TERRORIST ACTS do

REAL terrorist acts do. These "simulated" acts, as they are called, wouldn't necessarily have. I can't believe what a terrible reader you are. Almost as bad a speller...

No you obviously chose to ignore the REAL part of it because it destoys you idea that AT NO POINT did the document EVER suggest that people BE KILLED, and this line shows it DID propose such an act DE ..... BUNKED

If a boat is sunk, is everyone always killed? No. At no point in the document does it ever state that people would be killed. You are only assuming that this would happen. You keep saying that isn't true, but it is. No amount of poor spelling and capital letters will change this.

the fact that they didn't go ahead with it does NOT change the FACT that theyy DID propose the MURDER of innocents.... or do you not think of them as innocents like Ddey65 and the Japanese killed by the 2 nukes dropped by the U.S?

Straw man. At no point is it suggested that innocents are killed. Stop inserting your own thoughts and ideas as proof.

You ignored the question and stressed "no American lives would be lost" clearly refering to the U.S people that would have been involved or invaded.

Northwoods is constantly thrown around as proof that the U.S. government would kill to promote their own interests. Often it is suggested that American lives would be sacrificed as well. That is why I stressed this. You have reframed the argument to suit yourself.

No that would be YOUR lack of answering the questions put to you and ingoring simple math and science, because you can't debunk them

What "math and science" are you referring to? The freefall? The buildings did not fall at freefall speed, so your claims are straw men. I cannot debunk something that did not happen. Your argument is so weak, you have to change the past to make it work.

1) See there you go again
2) No I didn't I made an obvious error for him to point out and his lack of rersearching skills failed him. hell, when I said it i said "look up it's MELTING POINT" you see what he failed to point out there?


Blah blah blah. Steel isn't an element by the way. In case you still didn't know.


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yes it does it proposes TERRORISTS ACTS which would no doubt kill and therefore ... understand?

Yes, you are just speculating. No Americans were to be killed. You are just assuming this would happen.

A link to the document you say you've already read? the link you would on doubt need if you HAD read the document many times? wow

I wanted you to show me where it says Americans would be killed. You can't because it doesn't say that.


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SPECULATING that TERRORIST ACTS would kill? RE - TARD!

They weren't real terrorist attacks.

No I'm taking in the information and working out the outcome MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE KILLED

Exactly. You are assuming.

So you think I'm saying that opertaion Northwoods says "lets kill a bunch of people"? what a moron you are, of course not, but if you read what they proposed you'd know that those acts would kill people (english teacher my ass)

Geez, you really are a lazy thinker aren't you? All I'm asking you to do is show me where in the document it says someone could possibly die. You can't. Because it doesn't say anything of the like.

I seriously doubt you've really even read the document. You're just going by what you've heard others have said about it.

are brown people lesser humans to you?

That statement is just disgusting to the extreme.



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Gulf Of Tonkin NOT REAL - DECLASSIFIED IN AUGUST 2008

"Declassified" NOTHING!! Every communist sympathizer and appeaser has been advocating this BS about the attacks being fake since the mid-1960's, but anybody who has paid attention to the people who were ON the USS Maddox, knows it was real!! No red revisionist history can change that, no matter how hard doofuses like you who believe this crap try to pretend otherwise!!



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It WAS declassified and I seent you many links to the story in the mainstream media but you ignored each one because you are a DENIER.

Wrong! I ignore them, because other links prove otherwise!

every straight thinking person has been promoting this TRUTH

No, moron! Straight-thinking people know that what you people spew IS NOT the truth, and those who don't have been falling for the revisionism started by the reds!!



No ship was hit on August 4th.

BS!! The Maddox WAS attacked, and they had the bullets in the hull to prove it!!


But declassified documents CAN and HAVE

Those so-called "decalssified doccuments" are fabrications of appeasers!!


the only "doofus" here is you refusing to keep up with history,

"Keep up with history" my ass!! You're trying to REWRITE history!! I hope some survivor of the bloodshed caused by the red armies of Indochina kicks the living *beep* out of you!!

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Freefall dropping speed for a floor in a building is 0.6 seconds, so if in the twin towers one floor collapsed on to the lower floor knocking it loose and causing it and the first fallen floor to fall on to the next floor (and so on) for 110 floors it SHOULD have taken 66-seconds for the towers to "collapse" to the ground, and this is BEFORE you take into account that each falling floor landing on the one below would SLOW DOWN the rate of "collapse", and even if you wre to say this slowing down was only 1/4 second per floor, that would still mean the towers SHOULD have taken 91 seconds to come to the ground ...... but the north tower came down in 12.5 seconds.

You obvious ignored these important factors like the design of the towers, and oh, yes, those huge jumbo jets that punched some holes in them and started gigantic fires, not to mentione the fact that the towers collapsed at slower speed than 12.5 seconds.



If you had dropped a ball off the roof of the towers it would have hit the ground below in 9.5 seconds from encounting only air resistance and gaining speed as it fell (encountering LESS air restistance as it gain speed). The towers fell at GREATER than freefall for a collapsing building and near REGULAR freefall.

None of the towers were hit by a giant ball from above, so you're "theory" doesn't apply!

You're not for spending millions on getting to the truth behind a crime but you ARE for spend the same money fighting something that doesn't extist? idiot.

And you've exposed yourself as the REAL idiot by maintaining your lie that we're "fighting something that doesn't exist!!" Ass Hole!!





explain how communism is NOTHING BUT tyrannical

I suppose I have to humor you; The entire Soivet History is a good start. So is Maoist Red China, Cuba under the Castro regime and every war they've backed to force communism upon people, many of which you blame on US!!



however you want to put tit it is putting PEOPLE BEFORE PROFIT and you can't argue with that

Yes I can, because it isn't. The people who rose up against Soviet-control of Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, among others know this for a fact.

China is no less Capitalist than the United States the leading party are just CALLED the communist party.

China uses capitalism to keep the communist party in power. We use it for ourselves, and yes, others!

B.S that is CAPITALISM.

No It ISN'T!!

Capitalism separates people into classes by what they own and can afford.

And communism separates people into classes by where they are on the political structure of whatever dictatorships the politburo runs. Workers are always below party members in communist dicatorships. Communism's promises of a level playing field are a fraud!!




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Design was flawless and design can NOT make a building gain speed when collapsing jackass

BS! No design is flawless, and nothing made it "gain speed!"


I didn't forget the planes..... which ALSO can NOT make a building gain speed when collapsing

No, you just pretend they didn't do any harm to the towers, when they're the cause of their destruction!



what gigantic fires?

The ones that everbody else saw on TV that consumed a good chunk of both towers, you idiot!


there were only small fires a minute after impact

You lying moron! The fires were large and getting larger between the time the planes were crashed into them and the time the towers collapsed!



and we are NOT talking about any damage that occured,

YOU'RE not talking about the damage, because you want to IGNORE the damage!


no they didn't anyone with eyes can see that. north tower 12.5, south tower 10.5.

Both lies, and I showed you videos proving it! Rosie O'Dumbass still thinks it was 9 seconds!

errrr....no one is saying they WERE hit from a giant ball from above jackass so what kind of crazy pills are you taking? or should you be taking?

I don't take any crazy pills, nor do I have to. But YOU obviously do, because you think that dropping a giant ball from above would do the same damage as ramming two jumbo jets through the towers.



YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN HOW SO WHEN YOU DISAGREE, but of course you won't because you have no arguement

The history of communist dicatorships themselves prove they don't put people before profit! They put their own power before people!



their actions have nothing to do with this debate. EXPLAIN what it is about communism that is EVIL.

WRONG! Their actions have EVERYTHING to do with the debate, because that IS what makes communism evil!




Communism and socialism provide FREE health care, capitalism takes advantage of the sick and dying.

Communism provides only the medical care that the party decides to provide, and forces medical care to stagnate.


B.S you meaen to tell me that you think workers in capitalist countries are not alwasy below party members?

Yes, because we can vote them in or out, and don't have to stick with one party!



you talk out your ass

The hell I do. I see the world for what it is, including the communist world!


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2) explosives did

There WERE NO explosives. It would've taken over a year to rig the towers with such explosives, and people would've noticed them being installed.



20 the explosives were the acuse of their destruction

The two Boeing 767's being rammed through them were the cause of their destruction, *beep*


no - such - thing. there were SMALL fires unseen by cameras but lots of SMOKE

No small fires can produce that much smoke!


B.S show me some EVIDENCE like a picture showing fires were BIGGER after impact

As if it's bad enough that you thought I had to do it before, and I did it anyway.


i'm not ignoring crap that would be you - you still say firer can melt steel - you're a moron

Because fire CAN melt steel, and is used to MAKE steel. YOU'RE the moron if you reject it. You're also a moron for ignoring the fact that fire DIDN'T HAVE TO melt the steel within the towers to cause them to collapse.



I've told you were to find the times of collapse in the 9/11 Commission but you still; ignore them (south tower 10 seconds bottom of page 305, free download of book on google)

I don't need to download the book from Google or anywhere else. I've got my own copy of the report, and even I know that's BS. There were still floors up when both the 9/11 Commission says it collapsed, and when many of you twoofers say it collapsed. 15.28 seconds for the South Tower, 22.02 seconds for the North Tower. Looks like I've got to show it to you again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4



1) not true, its always people before profit (hence their countries being POOR)

No, they put the party BEFORE the people. Millions starved because of the policies of the Soviet Union, Red China, and their puppet dictatorships. The people under communist rule saw the false promise of a "workers paradise" for what it truly was - SLAVERY! That was why they've either rebelled against communist dictatorships, and either tried or failed to escape from them.


1) what the hell does that mean?

It means that you only get what the ruling party SAYS you can get! It also means that they can force psychiatric treatment on you if you're a politica dissident!


2) doesn't change the fact that communism and socialsim give FREE healthcare to the sick and dying saving lives

Free doesn't always mean good.


no you see the world they way they want you to see it, the way they present it on TV.

The way it's shown on TV tends to be pretty damn accurate!



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1) there WERE evidence can be seen in the videos

The so-called "evidence" you refer to are presumed sounds of explosions, that aren't necessarily explosives.


2) you have made it up ONE YEAR claim

More than a year, because the REAL largest building to be destroyed by explosives took a long time to rig.
http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/nc/ne/?id=101566



3) people were constatly being moved from room to room in the towers and work WAS done in the important areas AND powdered concrete (say from drilling into the floor to get the the beams) was in the towers in the weeks before the attacks

Another line of BS you twoofers make up!


no the planes were the distraction so you would accept the officaisl story

"Distraction," my ass! They plowed through the damn towers causing the damage and the fires! The towers collapsed from where those holes were made! Demolitions take place from the BASES of buildings!



shut up and get a science lesson,

I don't need one, especially from dickheads like you!


the air oxygen the more smoke - the size of the fire doesn't matter that much

If that were true, NYPD and FDNY could've rescued people from the ROOFS!! Nobody could get up there, and besides that, there were plenty of people either falling or jumping to their deaths. You actually think the SMOKE ALONE caused people to do that? Think again! They were trying to avoid being burned to a bloody crisp!


(and you haven't proved the fires were HUGE as requested.... AGAIN)

Yes I did. You actually think THIS is small?
http://www.nps.gov/remembrance/statue/images/statue_left.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Seconds_after_first_plane.JPG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Story.crash.sequence.gif
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/WTC2Floors_a.jpg
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/WTC2Floors_b.jpg

again we are NOT talking about the beams being melted to cause collapse but the POOLS OF MOLTEN STEEL FOUND IN THE BASE OF ALL 3 FALLEN TOWERS - I've said this over 20 times now you reject REMEMBER IT

You mean the so-called "molten steel" found DAYS AFTER the attacks in the rubble of the debris itself? And it was NEVER just three fallen towers.



anti-truth crap?

So-called "anti-truth" is NOT crap! The so-called "truth movement" that you belong to, IS!

I thought you said the 9/11 Commission was perfect,...

You thought wrong. During the hearings, I wrote to them about the September 7, 2001 State Department warning which dispelled the myths of the Bush Administration ignoring warnings of an attack claimed by Richard Clarke. I've seen NOTHING on this warning! As flawed as it is, it's still better than the propaganda YOU spew!


and China is NOT communist it is CAPITALIST, the party just calls itself communist

The party uses capitalism to keep itself in power, because earlier policies under Chairman Mao like the "Five Year Plan," Great Leap Forward," and "Cultural Revolution" brought nothing but tyranny, starvation, and despair. Lenin and Stalin had similar programs. This is what makes communism evil.


1) even BAD free health care (which it ISN'T) is better than no health care you retard so don't talk crap

No it isn't, because you can actually become sicker if you get inadequate or unnecessary care!


2) it still SAVES LIVES - ADMIT IT

NO!
http://www.therealcuba.com/Page10.htm

1) no it doesn't

Yes, it does. Not perfectly, but it still primarily shows communist tyranny for what it is!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOHFPgoBs_o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUkimskFJ0w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75L0Yq8cclk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY7_vSDPr6M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42SgEsAtgf0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agmzNvN4R2o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TsZVgQf4Ss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEKTBKtsNBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26NkXQvvPMI
Communism started ALL THIS AND MORE, including the Korean War, Vietnam War, the Khmer Rouge Genocide, which paralleled the purges by North Vietnam and their puppet government in Laos. It also caused the wars in Central America, and stole the promise of Independence from Africans formerly under colonial rule! It backed the Arabs & Palestinians in the Arab-Israeli Wars, not to mention all of the terrorist attacks carried out by them, until the 1979 Iranian Revolution.



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Yeah people are idiots.

People who believe the propaganda from George Washington U, which has been transformed into the Berkley of the East Coast. That college has become a stain on this country and a disgrace to the freedom that this country was founded on!! The only thing worse they could do is prop up a statue of the despicable S.O.B. Ward Chruchill!!

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Go back and read your post and see where you went wrong assclown, you started a comment then moved onto another topic as a side comment then forgot to bring it back to what crap you were originally going to say

No, Matt. I did nothing of the sort. GWU ia a known hotbed of anti-American propaganda, and that link Jerkoff Jerome posed is just another example.



http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=28441

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yes you did YOUR POST...

Was NOT off-topic. It was about


you mean free thikning people able to critize it's own government

"Free thinking" NOTHING!! They attempted a conference against jihadists, and some far-left student organization smeared their efforts as something similar to a KKK meeting!! As for their being able to criticize the government, that college is just another gathering for enemies of America to preach their BS with an intellectual glossing and coax students into believing this crap, without any examination as to what's wrong with it.


yeah, another example of how wrong you are most likely

No, an example of the anti-American BS that George Washington U loves to post on the web!




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no no no you STILL can't read or remeber what you've said

No, moron. I had a glitch on my PC.


1) so if someone speaks against American they're evil and crazy?

If they LIE about America, which is what you and the rest of you twoofers do, they're benefitting those who are evil!


2) you just said "they attempted a confernce AGAINST jihadist" AGAINST means they arer NOT with them you idiot.

A pro-American group planned a conference AGAINST jihadists, and the established far-left on campus ruined it by making fake leaflets to discredit their cause and make them look like bigots!



no an example of how wrong you are. just because someone speaks out against bad things the U.s does does NOT make them evil or even anti-American,

Yes it does, because they straight-up LIE about what America does and cons people into thinking that the good things we do are bad! When our colleges and universities give tenure to traitors like Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, Ward Churchill, Leonard Jeffries, etc, it's difficult to trust them.

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This line from CKent's link discredits his and Ddey65 stand here:



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concocting a “Remember the Maine” incident by blowing up a U.S. ship in Cuban waters and then blaming the incident on Cuban sabotage.
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No it doesn't, dumbass! Because it wouldn't have necessarily required the deaths of any real people!


And with that^ the discussion on THAT point is over.

No it isn't, because you people MISSED the point... AGAIN!




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you mean those links to the official story BEFOre it was declassified? THEY DON'T COUNT

They DO count, because they explained the how the attacks went down. This phony "recenly declassified document" that you put such faith in is a line of crap that reds have been preaching for years!!

No it's truth from declassified papers released BY THE U.S ITSELF, you are just too in denial to look at the newe information.

Because it ISN'T "new information." It's an old lie that was preached within a year after the attacks!!




No the declassified documents WERE RELEASEED BY THE U.S YOU TARD

MY link was released by the U.S. YOURS was released by APPEASERS!!

And I hope I get to meet you one day so i can kick the crap our of you for being such a dumb bastard who does nothing to shout stupid insults when he's short of an agruement.

The fact that you want to do that, proves that JerkoffJerome's complaints about me threatening you twoofers in retaliation, has no merit!!


You try anything against me, and I'll kill you too!!


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NO they exlain the lie of hoow they were SUPPOSED TO HAVE gone don BEFORE THEY ADMITTED THAT THEY DIDN'T .... WHEN IT WAS DECLASSIFIED. Pinhead.

No, it shows how it DID go down.

No it is a U.S DECLASSIFICATION, OF A U.S DOCUMENT if you paid attention you'd know it's the U.S admitting it didn't happen, not the "reds" saying it didn't.

Wrong! It's a lie that has been advocated for decades. But after years of the far-left and their sympathizers drumming this nonsense into people's heads, it has been accepted as the truth.



No it's an old TRUTH now CONFIRMED BY THE DECLASSIFICATIO of U.S Military documents.

See above!! And you said it was "new" before!!




My was by ABC, CNN, MSNBC and your favourite FOX. Hard luck bud

Again with the assumptions. For somebody who insists we have a "government controlled media" you overlook the bias from ABC, CNN, and especially MSNBC. As for Fox, I still remember that "War Stories" documentary about how we got involved in Vietnam that subtlely blamed the French and the Democrats, while overlooking the Nationalists fight against the French colonists and the communists. So once again, these false notions about America's media, and how we react to it are discredited.

Errr, no, it shows that I want you hurt as muh as you want me hurt dumbass nothing more,

Actually, it DOES show more, since that idiot has accused me of threatening other users for no reason, when in reality I only do so in retaliation for the threats that I get from him and ass holes like you!

HA! I teach karate in my spare time jackass I'd snap your fat ass in two

Oh, I'm an American, so I must be fat, right?! What an idiot you are! I can always just grab a gun and shoot you! That Second Amendment is something you tend to overlook about Americans!




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no it didn't they admit it in their declassified paper

All that evidence that it happened before and suddenly you expect me to belive it never happened? What a crock!


No it was the TRUTH denied by government because it was an excuse to make money from war.

No, it's a LIE made up by communists, to con the world into thinking they were the victims, and conning them into thinking their cause was a fight for human rights, which in fact they didn't give a rat's ass about. We weren't in the war to "make money." We were in it to stop the expansion of communist tyranny!

no one threatens you bitch

Yes they have, and they've threatend others here too, and so have you.


YOU THREATEN PEOPLE and someyimes they respond with the same.

That's another thing you've got backwards. I respond to the threats of you twoofers with my own threats!!


no you spend so much time on IMDB and you're 44, you sit down a lot and are middle aged, that equals a fat belly to me :)

I spend my time on IMDb to improve it. It's something I enjoyed a lot more back when you twoofers weren't using the message boards to spread you BS! Plus, I've been of average weight for somebody of my height for the past decade.


yeah i'm sure there will DEFINATELY be a gun in reaching distance just because it's the U.s

Oh, but you can't always be sure which one of us Americans is armed or not.


(and who says that's where we'd meet?)

Who said I WANT to meet you?

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Dear Lord, clearly it was (how do you say...?) FABRICATED dummy.

The HELL IT WAS!!

So the U.S soldiers that were in that area that night that said NO SUCHH ATTACK TOOK PLACE were Communists?

No, you idiot! The SAILORS who were on the ships said the attacks DID take place!

Err, 3 milion dead,, they WERE you jackass.

Victims of the RED ARMIES OF INDOCHINA, you moron! THIS is how communism is so bloodthirsty and tyrannical!! I have a feeling I'm going to need to post that list of communsit-sponsored atrocities by North Vietnam, and their three "People's Armies" in South Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia again.




Yes you were

No we weren't! We were there to repel communist expansion!

No to stop the destruction of capitalism

You liar! We were trying to repel communist expansion for the same reason we fought fascist expansion in World War II. Because it's tyrannical and bloodthirsty!!


NO THEY HAVEN'T SHOW ME

Show you? Why don't you try paying attention for a change? Oh, that's right. Because they're twoofers like you, and you wouldn't want to see anything that make you traitors look bad!




Bitch shut up you're remembering everythin the wrong way around.

No, ass hole. That's what YOU do! You and JerkoffJerome who barges into about a performance on a TV episode, or spotting an actress in a commercial, or asking for help in making a correction!



I only respond to YOUR violent comments with ones equally as violent. YOU are always the one to start it because you can't control your temper.

No YOU are the ones who always starts this, because you can't stop spewing your lies and hate speeches!



1) yeah right
2) if you wanna improve it LEAVE

No, YOU Leave!! I make IMDB better by adding more data to it. All YOU do is use the message boards spew 9/11 Conspiracy garbage and other anti-American propaganda!


Average for an American

Judging by your misperceptions of Americans, I'd be considered under-weight!


Not all states have the right to carry but yeah i wouldn't put it past most of you crazies

Which should be enough of a warning to pieces of *beep* like you not to start anything with us!!


but still here you are talking about shooting me yet I'm supposed to be the one making the threats

You were the one who boasted about your skills in Martial Arts, and how you're determined to use it on me and anybody else who isn't stupid enough to fall for your *beep* so yes it IS you who's making these threats!


Better yet, here's another direct quote from you:
"And I hope I get to meet you one day so i can kick the crap our of you for being such a dumb bastard who does nothing to shout stupid insults when he's short of an agruement."


And you said I'm the one who gets things backwards and you don't threaten anybody. I caught you idiot twoofers in your lies once again!!


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WWu777:

Thank you for sharing this eye opener.
I'll be forwarding this to as many as possible.

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