Based on plot I thought this movie would be an attack on French wine snobbery and therefore an attack on all wine snobbery.
But its just American snobs versus French snobs. A seeming dumb guy who quotes Hemingway. This is called namedropping and trying to impress people. Smart people dont go around quoting famous writers.
Old dude who listens to opera.
They are snobs too. They're just mad that the French are snobbier.
The French WERE snobbier. They are not anymore.
It is about the history of California Winemaking and how it broke into what was a very exclusive club.
That you thought it "would be an attack on French wine snobbery" shows that you are too biased to have a respecatable, or worthwhile opinion and should be dismissed as a neophyte.
Smart people do actually quote famous authors when the quote is germane to the situation. It is fools who make the quote either without attribution or without knowing where the quote came from (or worse try to make themselves seem intelligent by making the quote and trying to pass it off as their own words.)
And the fact that you think that someone listening to opera is snobbery demonstrates that you are fairly uneducated.
Opera is exceptional music. But so is the late John Lee Hooker playing the Blues, and Clapton playing Rock. Just because you do not have the intelligence or good taste to appreciate opera does not make it snobbery.
When you grow up you might have something intelligent to write about this film or the subject in general, but I doubt it.
Dismissed as a neophyte?
Sounds like something a snob would say. I don't "dismiss neophytes." i I just argue true or false. If a person is wrong who cares the level of his expertise in the field.
Snobs also quote famous authors because they don't have an argument. It's ok to quote someone if the argument is relevant and "germane" to the argument. (Smart people also know how to spell germane.)
They rarely make arguments but just use ad hominem attacks.
ex."you lack intelligence, you are a neophyte, you lack culture to appreciate something."
Listening to opera and drinking wine doesn't make you a snob. You're motive determines that. If you truly like these things then you are not a snob. If you're motive is to impress people and you think this makes you better than others then you are a snob.
Quoting Hemingway in public in casual conversation has to be snobbery. The old guy listening to opera is not automatically snobbery but in the context of the movie I think it is.
'But so is the late John Lee Hooker playing the Blues, and Clapton playing Rock. Just because you do not have the intelligence or good taste to appreciate opera does not make it snobbery. "
Are you serious? The snobbery drips from your every word.
Typos happen. Smart people actually do make typos.
I drink wine and listen to opera because I truly enjoy them, which is the same reason I like good beer or barbeque, and John Lee Hooker. The difference is that I can actually make good beer and barbeque myself, but can not ever realistically hope to make good wine, write, or perform opera, or even hope to hold a a wet match (let alone a candle) to Hooker or Clapton's skill with a guitar.
I happen to follow the view that a good wine is one that a person likes. Price and vineyard makes no difference. I do not care what others think about what I drink.
Regarding the movie..... Alan Rickman's character IS a snob. But the Californians, at the time the film refers to, were not.
Experts can be wrong. But your initial post showed a lack of understanding about opera and what was going on in the wine world covered by the film, so the word neophyte applied.
Your original post stated: "Smart people dont go around quoting famous writers."
Yes they do.
You also stated: "Old dude who listens to opera.They are snobs too."
His character truly enjoyed it so by your definition he was not a snob.
Remember his character was just some old Mexican-heritage grape grower. A man that many whites would have assumed was just a field worker, even though he actually owned a farm. The idea in the film was that a man who most of America at the time would have looked down upon as "just some wetback" was in fact a man with refined tastes and a level of cultural experience. Far from being a snob. He did not listen to opera to impress anyone. It was his relaxation.
My assertion about your lack of good taste or intelliegence was based on what you actually said in your original post.
From your post is seems that you do not understand what snobbery is.
I'm smarter than you.
shareYeah it was so pretentious and pompous, made me sick I had to stop watching.
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