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Carter's position on Israel

posted 16 years ago by acheckers
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In the movie Carter states that the system of building 40 foot walls and bisecting Palestinian territory and depriving Palestinians of economic commerce is beneath a country as great as Israel. He makes it quite clear that he cares very strongly for Israel.

Carter feels that the current administration has not be very involved in bringing about a peaceful settlement between Israel and Palestine (see comment below on the Roadmap).

One of the students at Brandeis points out the dilemma: since building the walls the Israeli deaths, from Palestinian suicide bombers, has fallen. Carter responds that the walls can't stop grenades and mortars and missiles from being launched over them. So ... it's a very tough problem.

I think Carter's efforts at Camp David will forever tell how strongly he cares about Israel. And I certainly did NOT sense that Carter felt achieving a lasting peace, between Palestine and Israel, would be an easy matter. He stated that the current solutions are not ones that anyone could dream would be successful long term solutions.

Watching the movie made me think a lot about Northern Ireland. It was not until both the U.S. and England got very involved with the peace process there that the real stakeholders started feeling comfortable enough to do the hard work of hammering out a settlement.

Most arrangements for peace have some dynamic mechanism: the more things go well, the more each side opens up a bit; if things start regressing, each side pulls back. The Roadmap for Peace in the Middle East <http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/rls/22520.htm>; appears to provide such a mechanism. I was hoping that the movie would comment more on this. A requirement of Israel, in the Roadmap, is the dismantling of some of its settlements. A requirement of Palestine is to end attacks. Carter advocates both of these things. Time will tell if the Roadmap is successful.

[–] tedserv 16 years ago

Anytime anyone criticizes Israel or takes a position Israel is in disagreement
w/ that person or organization is automatically labeled "anti-semitic."
If that isn't sufficient the necessary mention of the Holocaust is thrown in.
Israel has a huge, and (against others than Jimmy Carter) effective, propaganda
machine that attempted to 'get'Jimmy Carter for telling the truth.

[–] wwhitman 16 years ago

Precisely Tedserv!

It is high time Zionist Americans stop controlling United States foreign policy in the Middle East to ensure what is good only for Israel to the detriment of America.

I didn't think all that highly of Jimmy Carter as President. He inherited a terrible economic mess from our tragic venture in Vietnam, and was confronted with Iran being taken over by the Ayatollah and loss of U.S. prestige in the Middle East due to Arab anger and the OPEC oil embargo, both due solely to Israeli attacks on its neighbors and our suicidal and costly military support of Israel

However, I found this movie accurate and right on the money. It should be viewed by all Americans interested in the root causes of the current carnage in the Middle East. Carter rightly concludes that if we don't change our foreign policy in the Middle East, and don't stop providing Israel with our latest weaponry to murder innocent Palestinian women and children, we will lose more than cheap oil and our hegemony in the area.. we might well lose America itself.

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[–] elcroquis22 16 years ago

Im getting damn sick of Israel getting into the American conscience, and our tax dollars. The biggest mistake the UN ever did was give Israel land from Palestine, when it was never there's to give away.

I consider Jews to be probably the smartest people in the world, but they were never smart enough to claim their own country like everyone else did. Instead they chose to roam around like gypsies in a caravan, in search of gold and silver (hence typical names).

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[–] benway41 15 years ago

"Ever notice how most Jews oppose a border fence in America, but the same Jews love the idea of a "security fence" in Israel? "

"And how many immigrants from Mexico are blowing up busloads of people in El Paso and San Diego?"

Well put. It's amazing how people pass judgment on how Israel combats terrorism when they're not the ones who have to deal with terrorism on a daily basis. Also, that poster sites no source when he/she makes the blanket claim that "most Jews oppose a border fence in America."

Wow... if you want to find a bunch of anti-Semitic bigots, look no farther than the Internet.

"Dick Laurent is dead."

[–] tango09212 15 years ago

look no further than america, your neighbors , ....etc That said anti Semitic is an odd term , they say that arabs are anti semitic , but by definition arabs are semitic . if an arab is anti semitic then the arab is against himself. Some arabs may be anti Israeli , anti jew ,but not anti semitic .

[–] amcelholm 15 years ago

true - the term 'semite' or 'semitic' refers to a region in the middle east. it has been used incorrectly for so long that people now think it means anti-jewish.