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Why is Edward Carnby asian??


ok, I'm not gonna lie, I liked the first one. It defenitly was NOT the greatest movie ever made, but it hade some cool action and was a cool popcorn flick. But I can tell that this one will probably suck A LOT. But why.....WHY is Edward asian in this one??? was he asian in the game???
and I can't belive Lance Hendrickson and Dany Trejo waould do this, NOOO!!!
DONT DO IT!!!! you guys are better then that!!!

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Why is Rober Neville (I am Legend) white in the book and black in the movie? IN out of time a korean character was played by white guy, but they kept the asian name. I am asian and my last name isn't lee so why can't edward carnby be asian or of asian descent. The actor playing him is of asian descent, but like me is a born american. Why ask why? Either watch the movie or don't. Any race of person can play any character. The world's a melting pot do a DNA test on anyone there is no pure race. Geez, why don't you stick to reviewing/commenting on Tom Hanks movies.

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bc this is a sequel to the first where christian white dude played the main character

dont make everything about race cockface

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"Any race of person can play any character."

This is true, and at the same time: isn't.

Ex: Othello - he's black. Yet, many "white" actors have played Othello from a time where blacks weren't taken seriously, or having the mental capacity of doing anything but labor roles/work. That, in itself, is racist.

If one's in a mainly all black/white school, and there's no one else to play the role but a black/white person (in designated school) then, sure, 'any race of person can play [that] character'.

However, when it's a movie, and it's based on some aspect of reality, then, it should be played by the race the color was written as. If based on a video game, and the person was white, then it would seem logical that the person playing them in a movie would be of the same color.

But, in this case it goes a bit further, since there's already a movie precluding this one where a "white person" played the role already. So, to turn him into an asian -- why?

It's not racist in such regard; however implying that others are racist without any valid reasoning as to why is racist in itself.

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We're now in the time that its not about your skin color, or your ethnicity, but whether you are right for the part.

Example: Michael Clarke Duncan, played the part of Kingpin in Daredevil. Since his creation back in the sixties, Kinpin has always been white. There are a hundred white actors out there that could have portrayed the Kingpin, but they went with someone who fitted the role, even though he was black.

If the producers though Rick Yune suited the role of Edward Carnby, then that's all that is needed.

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That`s not altogether true, it`s not about raceism, it`s about authenticity.
Daredevil took alot of heat from the comic`s fans, both for casting M.C.D as wilson Fisk and in general. It`s not racist for fans to expect an accurate continuity between two mediums' portrayal of the same charecters; especially when fans have invested years into following the continuity of the charecters. Now if this was an original work then race, skin color , and ethnicity would be moot points; But in this case there are pre-existing fans that must feel recognized or the film well be abandoned by fans like Daredevil and Judge Dredd were.

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Halle Berry was not right for the part of Catwoman. And, The Rock wasn't right for the part of that coach in that Gridiron Gang movie (or whatever it was called) since the coach was white. The Rock is Polynesian. Especially since it showed the actual coach of the team at the end of the movie in the credits. The guy was white. Why was a Polynesian playing a white guy? Polynesians look asian (because their ancestors are asian).

It's like saying Bruce Willis should have played the part of Carl Lee Hailey instead of Samuel L. Jackson because Bruce Willis was in his game in the mid '90s, and he's probably would have done a great job, though he's not black.

Or instead of of blacks in Boyz 'N the Hood, it should have been white people. Where's the line drawn?

If the original characters from a book, or a comic book, or a prequal, sequal, original, etc., were one color, then that's the color they should be unless the character themselves is of a particular race. Like all the old movies with white people playing black people, or white people playing asian people, or hispanic people, or Native American people, or Indian (India) people etc.,

It's not racist for people to play a part designated for a particular race. It is a bit racist when you have someone of another race playing a part that's been previously designated a particular race. It's also somewhat idiotic, and unexpected, and doesn't really help in the long run.

If an all-black school is doing Hamlet, and all they can get to play those characters are black people then that's fine. Same if it's all all-white school and they are doing a play of A Raisin in the Sun -- it's understandable, and not construed as racist. You deal with what you got.

However, those sort of standards shouldn't be present in a film, where there are plenty of actors of all races to play a part.

-Nam

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Sorry

You got one thing wrong. Marvel making the Ironman movie and several others in the future, rather then throw out the movies as crap that doesn't work with the comics said all of the movies they do will be from the Ultimate Universe and not the normal one. This way they can treat them as near cannon without impacting the comics stories. They actually created in one of the Ultimate comics a Nick Fury that was black,in fact much like how Prof X has always Looked like Patrick Stewart, this Nick Fury looked a lot like Jackson. They may have even done it because they wanted people to want Jackson to be Fury.

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Well ya so anyway he was white in the first movie he needs to be white in this one, Kingpin is also DD's father so ya they screwed that up and turned that movie in to somethin stupid, I hated batman cuz Harvy dent was Billy D and then Tommy lee jones. Its all stupid.
Sure our opinions dont mater to any of them at all and thats why all these movies are crap or are going to be crap. For once I would like the studios to just listen to the fans, I dug the first one it was fun to watch(unless tara reid was on screen)but now they turn it in to something that i wont even try to watch due to their lack of intelligence and respect for fans.

Also this isnt about race its about continuity, its about making a movie that people who liked the first one will watch or fans of the comics or books or whatever came first. I am sure he's a fine actor and all that jazz and he was great in Die Another Day but hes not Carnby and unfortunately I will never want to see it due to him not being white and I know that sounds bad when put that way but its just a simple fact, You cant take the punisher and make him black, mexican, asian or whatever he has to be white cuz thats what he is.

Its just a slap ...no, a Punch in the face to fans.



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Well just to clear things up in case no one here has played any of the AITD games, Edward Carnby, is white.

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Well ya so anyway he was white in the first movie he needs to be white in this one, Kingpin is also DD's father so ya they screwed that up and turned that movie in to somethin stupid


The Kingpin is not, and never has been, Matt Murdock's father. Battlin' Jack Murdock is Matt's father, and is the reason Matt became Daredevil to begin with. Their relationship is one of the only things the film actually got semi-right.

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I agree that anybody should be able to play a character - when a character is written as "black" we often get these degrading "token black guy" types and such - but the whole Sigourney Weaver in Alien thing is a good example, the character was written as a male, and Sigourney asked to audition for the part and we got a very strong willed woman character who went down in history.

So, yeah, I think that whatever somebody is written as in the script shouldn't affect somebody's chances of getting the role, whatever race.

However, when you have a movie which is a sequel, and the character was American in the original, I do think a bit of consistency would make sense there. Same if, for example, Edward had parents or children, they'd have to be cast as Asians too, in my opinion, just for that realism.

But what the heck.

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DistantJ : "the character was American in the original, I do think a bit of consistency would make sense there."

Last I checked, Yune is 100% American. Born in Washington, D.C.

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Then why's this title talk about him being Asian?

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well, to me thats not the problem, i see where youre comming from, but this is a sequel, not a remake so it would kinda make more sence if they chose the same person to play edward, dont you think????

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Well if you're going to make a sequel to a movie and the lead backs out, you may want to find somebody who looks even slightly like him. Now if you hired somebody of a different race because they played the role well, THAT I can understand. But this guys acting sucked so they really should have gone with somebody who looked like Slater.

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"Why is Edward Carnby asian??"

Because it's a Uwe Boll flick :-)

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"Because it's a Uwe Boll flick :-)"
No, it's not.

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I stand corrected. I just looked at the directors and writers involved. I hope they do a much better job of it than Boll did.

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They won't, this will blow just as hard and most likely be a lame ass sci-fi movie.

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In the original games, Edward Carnby was an older, middle aged white detective. They should have Lance Henrickson play the lead..while he might be a little too old at least he'd be closer to the original character of the games.

I can't stand when a film studio feels that they take classic material from a classic book, game, idea and feel free to do whatever they want to make it a movie, thus destroying any ties or original atmosphere that it's supposed to be based on.

Now I can see how difficult it might be to make a movie in 2 hr. time frame. And I agree when certain changes are made when made to make the film better in some way.

But an asian as Edward Carnby makes no sense, other than the directors are planning on using the guy to do some 'wicked cool martial arts stunts yeah!!' that we've already seen in hundreds of lame action movies with little story at all, much like the hacked AITD movie before this. So I hope that lead is only rumored at this point unless he's also a good actor.

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and then what now....james bond will be asian or black?

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Trivial details pertaining to race are irrelevent. Yes, in the game the protagonist is a Caucasian detective. The real question is not why Carnby is made into an Asian, but whether or not this Rick Yune creature could deliver a performance that would capture the essence of the character. In DAREDEVIL, for example, the actor who played the Kingpin, despite being different in skin colour from the one in the comic, captured his character perfectly.

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To answer the subject line's question, because they couldn't find a check with enough "zeroes" at the end for Christian Slater.

Surprisingly.

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Read these two threads and please respond:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478087/board/flat/104808463?d=107023440#107023440

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478087/board/flat/28532375?d=107023547#107023547

I want to know how much of a two-faced hypocrite you are.

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If race isn`t an issue....Then I guess Justin Timberlake playing Malcolm-X would be cool too.

If a character is white, cast a white actor. There is nothing racist about that.

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I just love how skoobaba is trying to say that movies about video games are as important as movies about historical figures or anyone in history... that has got to be the most idiotic thing i have ever heard... Who cares if an asian plays Edward Carnby, cause for one, the first A.i.n.D. was so horrible that not even christian slater who is an actor on the serious decline of a basically subpar career, who when u think about it kind of makes u think that that is how tara reid will b for however long she is acting, because she is the younger generation of him, pretty much, except he was a leading actor and she was just either supporting and not that important enough and just had hotness as an excuse for some1 to watch movies she was in, but she isnt hot anymore, so it's become pointless..... Justin Timberlake playing Malcolm-X?? so u really dont use ur brain when u do anything, u just do it and then just pretend u never did anything?

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I know its odd, but then again, I have no problem with it. If they can cast Jake Gyllenhall as the titular character in the upcoming Prince of Persia movie, there's no reason why then can't cast Rick Yune as Eddy Carnby.

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I think it's right. Edward Carnby is white and no asian or black guy. I played all games and in every part he was white.
It's really not racism. Also it were stupid, when Edward were an doctor instead of a P.D.

And I think its wrong when you take a famous character and give him other attributes as he had.

Also how stupid it would be when there is a new Blade Movie, and Blade is played by a white Guy and he can transform in an bat. Or the cool Shaft will be played by a white Guy.
Or when we take Asians, how it would be when Wong Fei Hung was an white or black Guy?

I think when they want to take an asian for Alone in the Dark, they had to give him an new name and charackter

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Well, even if you cast a white person, you'd never be able to get Christian slater and then people would be complaining that the new guy isn't as good as the original Edward Carnby. Anyways, in 21, it was an Asian guy that ripped off the casinos but it was played by a white guy. Where's our damn spotlight? Yeah, and then you have the foreign/american remakes. Just read the goddamn subs and stop being so *beep* lazy.

Pervert!

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okay girls...Who cares if the main protaganist in what we know is going to be a mediocre at best movie is Asian instead of White? I mean, if we are really going to get into it then we could say things like, "Wolverine isn't 6'2, what the hell?!", or "Daniel Craig is blonde, he's not allowed to be James Bond!"...when we all know that both Hugh Jackman and Daniel Craig were amazing in those respective roles, and while Rick Yune is by no means a terrific actor, neither is Christian Slater. I mean, Michael Clarke Duncan was great as Kingpin, when in fact, Kingpin is a white character. I mean really, this whole argument in itself is pointless and sets any kind of racial movement back 10 years.

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Haha, I was wondering the same. I like the first movie, and Christian Slater was brilliant, so I am confused as to why Edward is Asian now. XD

I dunno if it's being called Alone in the Dark II or if it's gonna get a new name or what, but Uwe Boll's latest movies have been quite gritty so it could be a lot more 'raw' than the first, which could be cool to see.

According to mister Boll (not the director of this movie, just the producer) this one is going to be based on the story of the new game on Xbox 360, which has a pretty awesome story if you ask me, so it could be awesome.

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'I like the first movie, and Christian Slater was brilliant...'

Are you farking nuts???? Oh well, whatever rocks your boat.

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Well, Rick Yune is hot. Despite me thinking that Uwe Boll is the anti-christ I'm going to see this movie just to have 80 mins with Rick Yune. Was anything about the movie like the game? ANYTHING? the movie could take place on mars. Let's just be happy that Tara "Frankenboob" Ried isn't in this one.

I hope this movie bombs and Rick Yune can finally just start doing porn :3

also Christian Slater is a hapa...so technically he was Asian in the frist movie.

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Rick Yune = Awesome actor. I liked him in Fast and the furious, and Die another Day. I hope that he does well in this film!

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