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Hollywod does not have the courage to make real movies

posted 14 years ago by eugen_secuiu
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I want to kill the "good guy"!! This man gets on my nerves!!!
First Law Abiding Citizen now this. If this is not Propaganda i don't know what it is than.
I mean i liked the "bad guys" more in this movies and then the black hero saves the day and everybody is happy. He just joined the heist but now he gets a reward??
No No No This in wrong.
Moviemakers are like following orders or something because this movies are just stupid in every way.
O how i wanted Ty Hackett to be crushed by Matt Dillon truck. The actor, the character he is playing i don't know what it is but it's very unlikable.
Better thinking these movies are a gaudy lie made to believe that good always wins and I am sure that our IQ dropped while watching this.
Hollywood does not have the courage to make real movies !

[–] Cleric_Preston 14 years ago

Ya know, I'll agree with ya there since you brought up Law Abiding Citizen. I thought that movie was great and then the last 10 minutes just crapped all over everything we were building up to. Some pansy lawyer outwits a government spook? Riiiight. The system failed the man, and then he gets blown up.

Armored had a good setup with some more working class men getting screwed by the government they served (the main character) and he needs an out. Then tries to be Johnny Hero. I rather root for the "every-man" blue collar worker getting what he deserves than the over-done "lone-hero". In reality this hero would get his 15 minutes of fame, and then forgotten, lose his house and brother, and regret his decision for the rest of his life.

I'm not holding my breath til Hollywood steps up and tries something new, like making the supposed "bad guy" the winner, overcoming the system that's kept him down for so long.

[–] kemp444 14 years ago

I felt the same way...
That Ty character got on my nerves the instant he locked himself in the armored vehicle (which was just plain stupid - if you want to stop them, just play along and come clean afterwards). But after he burned the money stashed in that hole, I just wanted him dead (what exactly was the purpose of that? Making them even more desperate? And that would help how?).
He turned on the alarm that caused the cop to get shot and he got the other "good" guy among them (Ulrich) to risk his life for no good reason.
Great job hero: Instead of getting out with the money and one dead body (or if needed, coming clean afterwards), all the money got burned (a reward for what exactly, since the money wasn't saved?!), 5 more bodies and an injured cop.
Great cast, stupid movie.

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[–] michaeldecker 14 years ago

Nonsense! This was one of the few smart bits of writing in the movie. We were suckered into thinking this was a standard buddy ensemble movie, a la Ocean's 11, but then all of a sudden Matt Dillon and the others turned into the real villains. A neat switcheroo....

[–] foh_sho 14 years ago

A neat swticheroo? You seriously didn't see that coming? I predicted every single *beep* scene in this piece of trash, including the suicide.

[–] michaeldecker 14 years ago

erm.... you're missing the point. The switcheroo wasn't in the plot, it was with our sympathies.

At the start, Dillon was the sympathetic, 'working man' character - but by the end we cheered when he got killed. Switcheroo!

But hey - that ability to predict every scene in advance must mean you don't get to enjoy many films.

[–] PersianPlaya408 14 years ago

i dont think u got the point... the whole point, with all due respect, is that the hero is not a witty criminal who knows what to do in these instances, he may do stupid things like burn the money and get the cop shot, but *beep* goes wrong when you are panicking... i thought this was a good, underrated movie... 8/10...#592 on my list of top films of all time....

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[–] idene 14 years ago

I disagree, Eugen. It's not whether Hollywood has the courage... it's whether Hollywood has the financial incentive. People in general don't want to think when they go to the movies, they'd rather have everything spoon-fed and have a story with a happy ending. It's been like this for a long time but is getting worse and worse. Try to support independent production companies who make the kind of movies you like and hope for the best.

[–] Ponzer 14 years ago

Couldn't agree more OP. Especially with Law Abiding Citizen which was an outstanding movie until the last 10 minutes or so when it went again the entire theme of the movie just to play safe. Ridiculous.
Same thing with this movie. Not realistic at all. What kind of person would go against his own friends(they were more like family even). At the moment it didn't even matter that he didn't go along with the heist since the guy was dead anyway. And he was about to lose everything, and then he decides to do the "right thing" even if it meant he would lose everything(which was the sole reason he agreed on making the heist to start with).
And then the utterly ridiculous ending where got away scotch free and even got a frigging REWARD? BOOLL SHEIT!

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[–] sinnernerious 14 years ago

Agreed.

I was rooting for the so called bad guys all the way.That Ty guy i mean he gets rewarded for being responsible for all this *beep*

And most of all.
They killed Jean Reno in a instance (not to mention along with Morpheus)that single moment is enough for me to declare this movie *beep*

[–] ironwolf56 14 years ago

I'm glad I saw this thread, I was worried I was alone for wanting the "bad guys" to get away with it and the sanctimonious hero to lose. But then it's a Hollywood film so if it did have a twist ending it would have been hyped to death before the movie even came out so...of course I knew I wouldn't get my wish.

[–] brujomafufo 14 years ago

Hollywood gives what people wants

The problem is not Hollywood i think

[–] nightmare111 14 years ago

Hei, i watched the movie and i didnt liked it either, i tought they could do a better finish, that guy single handed killed more people than the other by is actions, they should have killed him and at least 2 of them escape with the cash.

[–] Hasjtracker 14 years ago

Didnt see Law Abiding Citizen,and i never will due to a promiss never to see Jamie Foxx in a movie so i dont know how this "movie" compares to it.

But you are 100% right,hollywood doesnt gonna make real movies as long as profit is the reason for making it in the first place.

But what to expect,havent heared a american singer actually sing lately due to the producers,why should it be any else with movies.