They couldve made a trilogy.
I mean they couldve killed off L and Watari at the end of the movie, and in the third movie they couldve introduce mello and near.
shareBut Light is dead, so what Near and Mello do if there is no more Kira?
LOLx..solve other crimes? then it shan't be name 'death note', so it still equals to NO trilogy.
No, I think the OP meant that he wanted Light to beat L in the second movie and then face Near and Mello in the third, which is what happened in the manga and anime.
However, I prefer things the way they are. The Death Note movies cover the vastly superior first arc of the manga/anime without bothering to include L's relatively unpopular successors. It also ends the story at its peak--the second arc is still good on an absolute scale, but it pales in comparison to the first arc. And again, L is a much more popular and well-developed character than either Mello or Near. Especially Near, who I personally detest. Better to leave the both of them out.
Totally agree with you, L is a better character. Mello and Near seems to be his 'clones'. I very much prefer DEATH NOTE movies without Mello and Near. It's better when you see L VS Light.
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WOAH I thought I was the only one that hated Near. Mello is pretty cool though he's funny the way he spazzes out like when he first heard L is dead. But L is ftw.
I still like Light more than anyone though...OK maybe not more than L. IDKKKKKKK
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Having seen "L: Change the World," I wholeheartedly wish they'd given Near and Mello a movie instead. It would've worked out, time-wise, to what they did in the anime, basically a 2:1 ratio of time spent on L's arc vs. time spent on Near/Mello's arc. True, the successors aren't as cool as L - but who IS? - but I do like them, especially Near. And really, sticking to the original story would've been far better than developing the mess they developed. One of the reasons everybody adores L in the original story is that HE DIES - he's basically martyred. Take JFK, King Jr. - Jesus! - as examples of the fact that people who are liked become even more so when they're killed before their time. L's death is the most shocking, maybe even the most dramatic moment of the manga/anime. Much as I love seeing L beat Light, it would've been better if they'd killed him and introduced Near and Mello in the last movie.
Besides, if they did that, we'd get to see Mikami! Also, for those who love him...Matt. Yes, I'm deliberately baiting fangirls so they'll agree with me.
(I am a fangirl, but I don't get the whole thing about Matt, personally).
Before I say any more, I'll say I never read the manga or watched the anime. I just watched the movies (I am a Shusuke Kaneko and Japanese film fan). I never knew of Near or Mellow at all before L calls the boy Near at the end of the movie.
Now...I like the way the movies are set up. Kira vs. L. One main protagonist and one main antagonist. I personally find if a story switches either its protagonist or antagonist, the story faulters. I don't even think that type of switch is right by general story writing standards.
SPOILERS FOR PRINCE CASPIAN
I felt the exact same after seeing Prince Caspian. When the leader of the bad guys was defeated by Peter and then one of own his men killed him and took over the bad army I felt the story lost a lot of power and drama in my eyes. Actually, that was my main complaint when that movie ended long before I heard of the switch in Death Note...but I strongly feel it applies to Death Note too.
It’s ironic that in this age of “tolerance” we are the most afraid of offending people.
Ok, I can respect that. Just be careful when you talk about "general story writing standards." Speaking as an English major - and one day English professor - who likes 20th century lit (aka "make it new, make it different!"), it seems to me that one shouldn't assume you should stick completely to old story formulas in order to make a story good. Perhaps you prefer a slightly more traditional story, and that's cool, but talking about "general story writing standards" makes it sound like that's the only good way of doing things.
I get what you're saying - and in all honesty, the 2nd arc of Death Note ISN'T as good as the first (ask just about anybody), although I think I could've been better than it was. In large part I think I'm just annoyed because I think "L: Change the World" sucked and I think a Mello/Near movie - brining more of a story I really really enjoy to life - would have been better.
When I said "general story writing standards" I meant the traditional form. I don't prefer traditional over experimental (I love Sion Sono's films for just this reason) or vice versa, I just said what I said because Prince Caspian and Death Note (the movies anyway) were structured in a way that signaled they were following these story structure rules. If they had made Death Note a trilogy and gotten rid of L at the end of the second film I think it would have really hurt the films since it was very much centred around L vs. Kira and that's what the audience members(at least those like me who aren't familiar with the manga/anime) are there for...we want to know who wins. If Kira had beaten L that appeal would have been lost and it would have disrupted what we were set up to expect. I hope I was clearer this time on what I meant.
It’s ironic that in this age of “tolerance” we are the most afraid of offending people.
Yes, that's a good point. Still, if things had been done differently you WOULD get to see who wins the Kira vs. L battle...it just wouldn't have been who you'd expect it to be. Now, the movies, I think, emphasize a bit more than the manga/anime the idea that Light is the "bad guy" to L's "good guy." I'm not saying that that's necessarily untrue in the other versions of the story, but it's a bit less clear, and there are all-too-many (I think) fans who actually root for Light to win, against L and later against the successors Near and Mello. I think perhaps the way the movies are done, and also perhaps the movie format itself, leads a viewer to think that L will win, in a way that other versions of the story don't necessarily - perhaps in this way the movies have a somewhat more "traditional" structure than the manga/anime. So perhaps viewers of the movies are given expectations that they may not necessarily have of other versions of the story...Well, maybe you're right after all to argue that the movies should end differently from the manga/anime.
STILL, I personally love to see story expectations set on their head. This is just speculation, but I think that, if I had watched the movies without knowing the manga/anime, and L had been killed and the end of the second part of a trilogy, I would've LOVED it. It's odd, since I love L to death and always root for him to win, but I love him even more when he dies. Well...maybe we should just say, to each his own :P
I found the Death Note films, despite following the basic narrative structures, had a lot of creative twists and turns. The fact L and Light both died was a surprise to me. I expected it to be one or the other but through out the two movies I couldn't decide which one would win. Light was the main character and, though he was technically the bad guy and that was made clear, the movie was from his perspective so L was generally cast as the foe to beat. L was, despite being the good guy, set up as the antagonist...he was smart and seemed guaranteed to find Light out...as much as I knew L should (and probably would )win I couldn't help but cheer for Light at the same time. Then when L went down (the fake death) I thought that Light had won and L was beaten. Then L shows up alive and Light is busted...thus L wins...but then L reveals he sacrificed himself to win...so they both die. It was already one shock after another.
I think Mellow and Near would have made the story drag a lot more too...they just weren't needed and as a film student I was always taught that if you don't something to tell the story then it has to go, even if you really like it, it took you two days in the freezing cold to get it, and you lost a hand to frost bite to get it.
It’s ironic that in this age of “tolerance” we are the most afraid of offending people.
I liked the way they ended the story in the movies better than the series. From a story standpoint, it's kind of poetic- that the two of them were such a match for one another that it's almost as if they became linked- One couldn't destroy the other without destroying himself in the process. I always felt like that was how it should have been- the Near/Mellow story arc seemed like it was just an excuse to draw the series out longer than it needed to be.
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