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Major Plothole

posted 16 years ago by Dinalfos
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Where was Kira's ifluence on society? The whole story takes place in the 22 or even 21 days after Light Yagami was (secretly) killed, so there's not enough time for society to forget about Kira and return to normal, is there?

Even worse, the terrorists initiated their plan barely a day or two after L wrote his name in the Death Note, yet they didn't even bother to cover their faces nor did they seem to fear Kira's wrath. Like, at all. This is weird, because terrorists like them would definitely have been potential targets for Kira, and they know it.

It would've been a nice touch if Kira's presence was still felt, because nobody knows he gone.

[–] curl-6 16 years ago

I feel the same way; this was one of the film's many critical flaws.
An event as monumental as Kira's supernatural reign of lethal "justice" would have left human society profoundly changed. In the Death Note movies, we saw pro-Kira riots, politicians openly supporting Kira, a census showing at 60% of Japanese were in favour of Kira's actions, and a 70% drop in crime. Then here it's gone without a trace? Awful screenwriting.

Nobody is entitled to an opinion. Everyone is entitled to an informed opinion.

[–] CorumJI 16 years ago

1) You assume that K did not know what had been discovered about Kira or what had happened.

2) You assume that L did not detail the circumstances of Watari's death when he sent information out about it, including the situation with Kira -- In notes available to all the "007"s, if not in the specific e-mail informing them about it.

In short, you're not being particularly thoughtful about your own complaints, since I can find plotholes in your plothole within moments of reading them.

QED.

The movie was definitely lacking in the mental interplay of the Death Note films. That's why it was not a Death Note movie, and isn't called one. It's about L, and creating a more human persona for him.

Even the end is left vaguely open (who knows... maybe L plans to go find a Shinigami and challenge it somehow to release his life...)

Is it as good as the DN? No. But it's still not bad -- considering that it's basically a made-for-TV movie.

[–] Dinalfos 16 years ago

1) You assume that K did not know what had been discovered about Kira or what had happened.

That's because we can't logically assume more people know about it. This has to be at least hinted at, if to be true. Face it, it's a plothole. Also, the fact that they didn't mention Kira is just bizarre. And even IF you know about his death, it would still seem strange. Besides, normal peopel weren't talking about him either.

2) You assume that L did not detail the circumstances of Watari's death when he sent information out about it, including the situation with Kira -- In notes available to all the "007"s, if not in the specific e-mail informing them about it.

What the hell are you talking about? L didn't make a report for everyone to read. He was trying to cover the whole thing up. And even if he did, how could the terrorists have found out? Like I said, they made their moves merely a day after Kira's secret death.

The movie was definitely lacking in the mental interplay of the Death Note films. That's why it was not a Death Note movie, and isn't called one. It's about L, and creating a more human persona for him.

I don't mind the lack of interplay. But the fact is, L: CTW takes place in the Death Note universe. And not even ten years before or after Kira, but over the course of less than three weeks. Starting the day after Light's death. You can't just ignore that fact as a screenwriter. How much trouble would it have been to maintain the connection with the previous movies? Hell, they could've done it without altering the plot.

Even the end is left vaguely open (who knows... maybe L plans to go find a Shinigami and challenge it somehow to release his life...)

Well, he obviously failed, since we saw him die in The Last Name. But it doesn't even matter anyway.

[–] Cluckabunga 15 years ago

2) You assume that L did not detail the circumstances of Watari's death when he sent information out about it, including the situation with Kira -- In notes available to all the "007"s, if not in the specific e-mail informing them about it.

What the hell are you talking about? L didn't make a report for everyone to read. He was trying to cover the whole thing up. And even if he did, how could the terrorists have found out? Like I said, they made their moves merely a day after Kira's secret death.

Agreed. L didn't report to anyone the circumstances of Watari's death- they show it in the film, when he emails the other agents, all he writes is, "Watari has passed. I will mourn him." It comes as a shock to everyone else.
I enjoyed the movie, but I do think it would have tied in with the others better, and been more interesting if we could see the repercussions of the first two films.